[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2013-06-12 Thread Phillip Susi
This package has been removed from Ubuntu. Closing all related bugs. ** Changed in: fast-user-switch-applet (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee.

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2010-05-02 Thread Simon Gibson
This bug is reproducible in 10.04 LTS. -- Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/343219 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-10-02 Thread Mantas Kriaučiūnas
ShutDown (Quit) item was removed from System menu in Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy), this was Ubuntu developers idea, while users are requesting to return ShutDown button to the system menu or at least to make an option to have Shutdown button even if FUSA applet is in GNOME panel, look for example this

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-10-01 Thread Brian Shannon
This bug is clearly valid. It makes much more sense to click System when you want to Shutdown your System. Clicking your own name is worse than clicking Start to Shutdown. -- Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-08-15 Thread Mantas Kriaučiūnas
** Also affects: baltix Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/343219 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-08-15 Thread mac_v
** Project changed: hundredpapercuts = null -- Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/343219 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. --

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-07-14 Thread marmuta
I hate to have to decide between shutdown entries in the system menu and using the FUSA. It just had to be be done again as I installed Jaunty for a friend. She expected to be able to shutdown by menu and couldn't figure out how to do it on her own. She does switch accounts for the family

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-07-14 Thread mac_v
@marmuta: Your use case , necessitates the need to trigger , FUSA using keyboard. That *does not* necessitate the presence of a System menu item. Kindly file a separate bug for that, which would be a papercut. -- Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-07-04 Thread mac_v
This is a design decision Not a papercut. A paper cut is a minor usability annoyance that an average user would encounter on his/her first day of using a new installation of Ubuntu 9.10. For further info about papercuts criteria , pls read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut Don't worry though,

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-06-26 Thread Przemysław Kulczycki
** Tags added: usability -- Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/343219 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-06-20 Thread MCMic
I really really miss the old shutdown menu of Hardy Heron... The new menu is hidden, I have to use the shutdown button to make it appear, It's a normal window instead of a big modal menu, the icons are less big and my computer think I'm stupid : ShutDown : Ends your session and turns off the

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-06-18 Thread Johannes Rohr
given that this bug has a real effect on usability, I believe that tagging this invalid is not justified. The devs may disagree, but they should allow users voice their legitimate concerns about this. ** Changed in: fast-user-switch-applet (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = New ** Also affects:

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-06-18 Thread ThiloPfennig
It does not make any sense to reopen the bug if the developers disagree. I think the message was clear. The made a decision. If they render it invalid we need to accept it, even if we disagree. We are free to use another Linux. Maybe the decision is reconsidered at some point. Personally I have

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-29 Thread arky
This might appear as a sane design decision to most of you sighted persons however it *does* creates problems to the blind orca screen reader users. It is really difficult to access the applet with the keyboard. -- Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-29 Thread Jon Ogilvie
I have to agree with everyone else here. Give us an option to bring the icons back in the system menu. I don't even use the system menu per se, but I've added the Main Menu to get rid of all the other clutter, and I've configured everything such that it's in the place where (as a migrating user

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-27 Thread kroy_28
I accidentally got both the Shutdown option in the System menu as well as my FUSA. I preferred using the Shutdown Option from the System menu, so I didn't like the default FUSA after upgrading to Jaunty, so I removed the FUSA and was using the Shutdown Option from SYstem Menu. While

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-19 Thread Johannes Rohr
I have yesterday removed, and just now re-added fusa to the menu. The result is, well, unexected: Now the system menu has only two entries: Info zu GNOME and Info zu Ubuntu. Not only the shutdown menu is gone but also the control centre menu. So there is definitely something that needs to be

Re: [Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-19 Thread Andy Ruddock
Dylan McCall wrote: On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 19:28 +, Johannes Rohr wrote: wouldn't the best solution be to make this configurable, give users the choice? In theory, that's the case now with the gconf key /apps/fast-user-switch-applet/show_session_commands. Unfortunately, gnome-panel

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-19 Thread Sebastien Bacher
I have yesterday removed, and just now re-added fusa to the menu. The result is, well, unexected the issue is different than the one described there, open a new bug about it What *does* gnome-panel look for to determine whether or not to display session exit options? it goes through applets

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-19 Thread Johannes Rohr
After killing and restarting the panel, things are back to normal. However, I just tried again and I can repeat this behaviour. Does this warrant a separate bug? -- Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/343219 You

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-19 Thread Grayson Peddie
Because this report is about accessibility for those without a mouse and has nothing to do with accessing the preferences and administration settings, it does warrant a separate bug report. -- Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-18 Thread Dylan McCall
** Also affects: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: fast-user-switch-applet (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid -- Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/343219 You

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-18 Thread Chris Coulson
Martin, I don't know what version of the FUSA that you are using, but it has had Policykit support for some time now in Jaunty, so you can shut down when multiple users are logged in just like you can when using the old session dialog (System - Shut Down). I'm not sure why you see the issue that

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-18 Thread Sebastien Bacher
that's a design decision and not a bug ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid -- Adding Fast

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-18 Thread Dylan McCall
I, and most people here, understand it is a design decision. That doesn't make this less of a bug. It's a short-sighted design decision which, while sensible for some use cases, absolutely decimates others. I won't go into the usability of FUSA itself, but suffice it to say it has nothing on the

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-18 Thread Sebastien Bacher
what is the issue and what do you want changed then? if you don't want to use fusa just remove it from your configuration? -- Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/343219 You received this bug notification because

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-18 Thread ThiloPfennig
I think this will be a CLASSIC wrong decision. It reminds me on the decision of GNOME to choose spatial browsing for nautilus some years ago. Thing is: Every big change in usability does mean people will have to relearn stuff. So this should only be done if you have very good reasons. Mostly this

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-18 Thread Johannes Rohr
My 2¢, about what the problem is: 1. FUSA is part of the /default/ panel config in Ubuntu, meaning that it is made harder for people who want or have to use the keyboard to execute shutdown, reboot and so forth after a fresh install. You have to opt out of it, not opt in. Also, you have to know

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-18 Thread Johannes Rohr
wouldn't the best solution be to make this configurable, give users the choice? -- Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/343219 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs,

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-18 Thread Johannes Rohr
Another problem: If I have to remove FUSA to get a functional system menu, I loose access to the guest session feature, as the latter one is not accessible from the system menu. -- Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

Re: [Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-18 Thread Dylan McCall
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 19:28 +, Johannes Rohr wrote: wouldn't the best solution be to make this configurable, give users the choice? In theory, that's the case now with the gconf key /apps/fast-user-switch-applet/show_session_commands. Unfortunately, gnome-panel does not look at it for the

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-18 Thread Sebastien Bacher
the reason why it has been changed is that have several way to do the same thing by default is confusing, changes always take some getting used to for user upgradings but that's not a reason to refuse any change, having a gconf key to have the menu items showed would be fine if somebody wants to

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-18 Thread Sebastien Bacher
the reason why it has been changed is that have several way to do the same thing by default is confusing, changes always take some getting used to for user upgradings but that's not a reason to refuse any change, having a gconf key to have the menu items showed would be fine if somebody wants to

[Bug 343219] Re: Adding Fast User Switcher applet causes shut down options to disappear from System menu

2009-04-18 Thread ThiloPfennig
I can understand the argument, but actually I do not think it is that confusing. In the real world and on the computer there are always more than one way to do things. The question is what is more confusing: Having the possibility to do a thing in another way or not being able to do a thing