[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-07-09 Thread sibidiba
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 44082 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 44082 GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations -- Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-05-06 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
One thing I don't understand is if it would suffice to keep the order of applets; currently it is messed up. -- Applets do not scale well with changing resolution https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-05-01 Thread Sandro Mani
I've done some more testing (switching resolutions, logging out and in at different resolutions) and I must say that my applets always retain their correct position since when I've set all positioning values manually. Though what I noticed is that while right_stick is always preserved,

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-05-01 Thread John Haitas
Don't hold your breath on this bug. The fix is more complicated than meets the eye. I have looked into the source code and reported upstream at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137473 . Basically the panel_right_stick gconf is not treated consistently between an object and an applet on

Re: [Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-30 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno lun, 27/04/2009 alle 22.21 +, John Haitas ha scritto: Categorizing this issue as seriously trivial is underestimating it. This is the sort of issue Linux users face, but Windows and Mac users are never bothered with. I would be happy to patch this. I am not an ubuntu

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-30 Thread John Haitas
I've been looking through the gnome-panel source and here is what I understand at the moment: The bug probably occurs in a file that has the following #include line: #include panel-gconf.h The file that seems most likely to have the offending bug is 'panel.c' Correct me if I am wrong here.

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-28 Thread Sandro Mani
I think one should rather look at the gnome-panel source code, it is more likely that the panel listen to screen resolution changes events and resizes itself accordingly than the screen resolution program itself resizing the panel. At least this is the impression I got looking at the gnome-panel

Re: [Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-28 Thread John Haitas
Thank you Sandro, I appreciate your reply. I realized that late last night (failed to report). Jaunty source: $ apt-get source gnome-panel -- John Haitas jhai...@gmail.com -- Applets do not scale well with changing resolution https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36189 You received this bug

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-28 Thread Sandro Mani
You're welcome. In case you make any interesting findings, please report - as stated above I have the impression that the file panel-toplevel.c is a good starting point to study the behavior of the panel, but as the code is next to undocumented, it is quite difficult to understand it at first

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-27 Thread Sandro Mani
From my own investigations so far I guess the best starting point is panel-toplevel.c in the sources of gnome-panel-2.26.0 - gnome-panel. -- Applets do not scale well with changing resolution https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of

Re: [Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-27 Thread David Fokkema
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 05:43 +, John Haitas wrote: The fact is that this is not something an average user should worry about. Most people don't care about the placement of these objects and applets. In fact, I think average users do worry about buttons and icons which end up in strange

Re: [Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-27 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno lun, 27/04/2009 alle 05.43 +, John Haitas ha scritto: We need to consider the appeal of Ubuntu to ordinary users depends on consistent behaviour. There is a mandate to my the interface as user friendly as Mac OS X. Yes and in fact this problem affects one of the most

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-27 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
I absolutely agree with Vincenzo. This bug has been bothering me for years, it seems, but how often have I changed resolution for my screen? Seldom. So I haven't really made a big deal out of it. Now, however, with the new netbook, the answer is: 4-5 times every day. That's something else

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-27 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Those comments are not really useful, you should better discuss that on bugzilla where the people writting the software will read your comments and you don't trust a system only because it can handle graphical layouts changes in a nice way or not -- Applets do not scale well with changing

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-27 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
I'll take it to bugzilla. I still think this bug should have a high priority here though. Just to clarify; you're right, people wouldn't trust Ubuntu just because the applets stayed at the same places. However, trust and distrust are two very different things. Distrust comes much more easily than

Re: [Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-27 Thread John Haitas
@SebastianCould you provide a relevant link to bugzilla where this discussion can be carried on? On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com wrote: I'll take it to bugzilla. I still think this bug should have a high priority here though. Just to clarify;

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-27 Thread Sandro Mani
Here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137473 (you can find it at the top of the page, under assigned to) -- Applets do not scale well with changing resolution https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which

Re: [Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-27 Thread John Haitas
It seems as if the Gnome team do not take this bug very seriously. Would it be inappropriate to develop a patch for Ubuntu that may or may not be pushed upstream in the future? On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Sandro Mani sandrom...@hotmail.comwrote: Here:

Re: [Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-27 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno lun, 27/04/2009 alle 18.23 +, John Haitas ha scritto: It seems as if the Gnome team do not take this bug very seriously. Would it be inappropriate to develop a patch for Ubuntu that may or may not be pushed upstream in the future? To develop any patch you need some

Re: [Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-27 Thread John Haitas
Categorizing this issue as seriously trivial is underestimating it. This is the sort of issue Linux users face, but Windows and Mac users are never bothered with. I would be happy to patch this. Where can I obtain the Ubuntu branch of the code that changes the screen resolution. On Mon, Apr 27,

Re: [Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-27 Thread John Haitas
So here are the ways to get the source. The git repository: $ git clone git://git.gnome.org/gnome-control-center The Jaunty source: $ apt-get source gnome-control-center The Ubuntu trunk: $ bzr get http://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-control-center/ubuntu Those who know better -

Re: [Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-27 Thread John Haitas
Ok so I think I was wrong on the last post... the relevant package seems to be 'screen-resolution-extra' Don't take my word on this, I am just trying to get to the bottom of this problem... The Jaunty source: $ apt-get source screen-resolution-extra The Ubuntu trunk: $ bzr get

Re: [Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-26 Thread John Haitas
The fact is that this is not something an average user should worry about. Most people don't care about the placement of these objects and applets. The fact that these settings can be changed by anything other than direct user intervention (ie: screen resolution) should be fixed. After many

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-24 Thread David Fokkema
Just my 2 cents: Some people here have discussed the options: relative positioning, keeping track of positions with different resolutions, flexible spaces, etc. However, as some others have pointed out already, gnome already _has_ a great scheme, which is actually working very well: the

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-24 Thread Sandro Mani
From what I can judge the problem is not how the panel behaves when it is resized, but how it behaves when adding applets to the panel, i.e. practically always choosing to store the position as absolute from left, instead of from right. In fact, once I corrected all the settings manually in gconf,

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-24 Thread Aidan Fitzpatrick
I think the problem _is_ how the panel behaves when it is resized. Have a look at the first comments. There's a workaround with gconf which makes the panel's handling much more graceful, but this is analogous to Windows users having to edit the registry to be able to change resolutions nicely. It

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-24 Thread David Fokkema
@Sandro: I agree with Aidan. It's not only when adding applets. However, I just now only managed to break things when switching to lower resolution, log off, log in, switching to higher resolution. Without the log off, log in, I tried to restart the panel between, before and after switching

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-23 Thread John Haitas
I have been frustrated by this problem for a long time through several different Ubuntu releases... I run Ubuntu as a virtual machine and switching from fullscreen to windowed mode produces this behavior often... The trouble is that this behavior can occur with a reboot or a simple update-manager

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-13 Thread Myk Melez
Firefox's solution to this problem (for its customizable toolbars) is to have a flexible space item that acts like a spring, expanding and contracting as needed to push the controls to its left and right all the way to the left and right ends of the toolbar, respectively. Firefox's toolbars also

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-08 Thread Aidan Fitzpatrick
Good to see the workarounds. However, this is still broken out of the box in Jaunty. I have attached a screenshot with panel at 1920 width, then downsized to 1280 without any interference. For some reason my two right-side controls (workspace switcher, window selector) get moved into the middle

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-04-01 Thread Sandro Mani
The best solution that works for me I've come up so far is the following: The problem seems to be that gnome has difficulties to decide whether it should store the position of an applet as aligned to the left or to the right. Consequently, what I did was in the gconf-editor manually browse to

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2009-01-26 Thread Carlo de Wolf
Another workaround is forcing the values back to their default value. Now at least panel won't overwrite them any more. gconftool-2 --load applets.gconf ** Attachment added: applets.gconf http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21644373/applets.gconf -- Applets do not scale well with changing

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2008-12-21 Thread Namaku Jiro
Now, Intrepid with current update my problem[0] above is gone. [0]https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/36189/comments/21 -- Applets do not scale well with changing resolution https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2008-11-30 Thread Linuturk
I have a similar attachment as shown in the attached screenshot. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=996553 Basically, I've increased the resolution via the Preferences menu applet, and my top and bottom panes weren't scaling across the screen. I've somehow managed to get the bottom panel

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2008-11-30 Thread Linuturk
Turns out this wasn't related to this bug. Please disregard. -- Applets do not scale well with changing resolution https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2008-11-18 Thread Namaku Jiro
Just like most people here, my screen resolution is 1280x1024 and when I run fullscreen application--which is in my case an old Windows game using Wine at 640x480--all launchers/applets are moved to the right. The strange thing is this problem didn't happen when I was using Hardy! -- Applets do

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2008-11-17 Thread sillyxone
Workaround found on Ubuntuforum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=342775 To manually save my panel layout once: gconftool-2 --dump /apps/panel panel_layout_1280_800.entries and restore the layout after switching back from a different resolution: gconftool-2 --load

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2008-10-06 Thread Franck
It seems the workaround is working out of the box, without any user action (kind of a fix, in fact :) When were the said gconf keys introduced ? I went to the said keys in gconf and found they were already set (panel_right_stick, ...). So I changed my resolution, relaunched gdm, relogged-in,

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2008-10-06 Thread TomasHnyk
Well, for this bug to be fixed, it would have to need not interaction from the user to actually be fixed, although this workaround is handy. -- Applets do not scale well with changing resolution https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2008-10-06 Thread Franck
Hi Thomas, well, that is what I was trying to say : I was on the way to try the workaround, but I did _nothing_, it was working already. I must say I am using Intrepid (latest). Can anyone else test this ? -- Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

Re: [Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2008-10-06 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno lun, 06/10/2008 alle 11.00 +, Franck ha scritto: well, that is what I was trying to say : I was on the way to try the workaround, but I did _nothing_, it was working already. I don't know how but the mess happens at next login, not immediately. In any case I saw this on

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2008-10-05 Thread elm
Here's a workaround. I did not test it very well. It keeps the objects at the same position. Simple go the the directory ~/.gconf/apps/panel/applets/ and set the %gconf.xml to read-only after setting the position. The Shutdown-Dialog-gconf.xml is located in

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2008-07-29 Thread Psy[H[]
I have a lot of launchers on top panel, so decreasing resolution won't let them fit into panel. When using something fullscreen in Wine, all applets are shifted or messed up. 8.04 with latest updates btw, I think, ability to group applets into blocks would be very handy -- Applets do not scale

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2008-05-31 Thread sillyxone
This is really annoying, especially my little one plays Chilsplay and Gcompris regularly (switching back and forth between 1024x768 and 1440x900). Some issues to address: - if the resolution goes from high to low, what if all the items won't fit on the lower resolution. - if the resolution goes

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2008-03-07 Thread Jacob
Also happens in VMWare. Using Ubuntu 8.04 Alpha6. -- Applets do not scale well with changing resolution https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2008-02-19 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
I am now using gnome 2.20.1 in gutsy-updates, and it seems fixed to me. I have tried various resolutions and rotations and my applets are still in correct order. Can somebody confirm? -- Applets do not scale well with changing resolution https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36189 You received this

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2008-02-19 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
I was just plain wrong. The panel is messed up at next login, not immediately. -- Applets do not scale well with changing resolution https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. --

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2008-01-04 Thread James Healy
This is apparently on the Gnome roadmap, due to be fixed in 2.22. From http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap Fix positioning of applets when the panel size changes -- Applets do not scale well with changing resolution https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36189 You received this bug notification because you

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2007-10-31 Thread Tuomo Sipola
This happens especially when using full-screen applications (eg. SDL games) that have resolution lower than the resolution of the desktop. Many of the panel elements are moved. Sometimes it is the logout button, sometimes the Firefox quick start icon and sometimes the notification area. --

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2007-10-25 Thread Franck
The bug is still there in Gusty with Gnome 2.20.0 It is even more serious as with xrandr, gnome-panel will adjust its size to the smallest output resolution. When coming back to normal resolution, applets are arranged in a apparent random order... Howto reproduce : - on a laptop, resolution is

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2007-10-03 Thread Sebastien Bacher
The settings are stored in gconf and the code is in the gnome-panel sources ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- Applets do not scale well with changing resolution https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36189 You received this bug notification because you are a

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2007-10-02 Thread Aaron Whitehouse
Just so that others can see if this is the same problem that they are describing, I will attach a screenshot. ** Attachment added: Screenshot.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9671529/Screenshot.png -- Applets do not scale well with changing resolution https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36189

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2007-10-02 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Aaron: definitely yes, this is the same problem. Sebastien Bacher wrote on 2005-02-15: ^^^ perhaps they will work on this for 2.12. Is there something I could read on the current applet position model? Where does gnome-panel store information

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2007-04-25 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gnome-panel (upstream) Status: Unknown = Confirmed -- Applets do not scale well with changing resolution https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs

[Bug 36189] Re: Applets do not scale well with changing resolution

2007-04-24 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #137473 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137473 ** Also affects: gnome-panel (upstream) via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137473 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Importance: