[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

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On 2009-05-10T18:37:56+00:00 Sam wrote:

Created attachment 343283
Output of smartctl for the disk

Description of problem: Every time I log into my Fedora 11 Preview
install, a warning pops up that a disk is failing. If I open Palimpsest
and view the SMART details for the disk, the only failing attribute is
"Reallocated Sector Count". The current and worst values are 199, while
the threshold is 140. My understanding of SMART is that something is
failing only if the values are lower than the threshold, so my disk
shouldn't be reported as failing.


Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
gnome-disk-utility-0.3-1.fc11.i586
DeviceKit-003-1.i586
DeviceKit-disks-004-2.fc11.i586

How reproducible: Every time I log in.


Steps to Reproduce:
1. Log into GNOME.
2. "Disk is failing" dialog appears.

Actual results:
Disk reported as failing.

Expected results:
Disk not reported as failing.

Additional info:
The disk as a WDC WD800BB-00CAA1.

I'll attach screenshots of Palimpsest and the output of smartctl -a
/dev/sda, which doesn't report the disk as failing.

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On 2009-05-10T18:39:57+00:00 Sam wrote:

Created attachment 343284
Palimpsest overview screen for the disk

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On 2009-05-10T18:41:08+00:00 Sam wrote:

Created attachment 343285
Palimpsest SMART details for the disk

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On 2009-05-10T19:04:21+00:00 David wrote:

>From what I can tell your disk has bad sectors and that's exactly why we
report it as failing. It's supposed to work this way. If this was my
disk, I'd back up the data and move it to a more healthy disk.

Moving to libatasmart and closing as NOTABUG since it's supposed to work
this way.

Btw, Palimpsest is not using smartctl - it is (indirectly) using
libatasmart which is more picky than smartctl is - e.g. just a single
bad sector will trigger this warning.

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On 2009-05-10T19:05:12+00:00 David wrote:

Comment on attachment 343283
Output of smartctl for the disk

(application/octet-stream isn't really a suitable mime type - text/plain
is much better)

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On 2009-05-11T22:34:26+00:00 Sam wrote:

Alright. Thanks for taking a look at this!

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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2012-11-16 Thread Bug Watch Updater
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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2011-05-15 Thread m1fcj
Natty  still reports the Eee 701 4GB SSD  failing after a suspend 
restore. The disk is healthy, the error is shown for attributes 32  56.

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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2011-05-15 Thread Chauncellor
Hi, m1fcj. This bug report has been reported as fixed. If you are having
problems you would do well to report a new bug (both in Launchpad and
upstream at bugzilla.redhat.com. Thanks!

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Re: [Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2010-09-16 Thread Jean Roberto Souza
The current release no longer tells me that my disk is failing.

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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2010-09-16 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gnome-desktop
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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2010-04-20 Thread Papamatti
@mibo: I have the same issue with my eeePC 701 4G on karmic 9.10 unr and
the beta2 of lucid 10.04 and confirm that after a suspend and resume the
gnome-disk-utility reports that the solid state disk will fail soon and
should replaced. The icon in the panel shows DISK IS BEING USED OUTSIDE
DESIGN PARAMETERS

I can reproduce it:
1. Turn on the eeePC and booting up unr 10.04 beta2
2. run Disk Utility and click SMART Data and after this click Refresh - all 
is ok - no errors reported.
3. close the Disk Utility
4. suspend the pc - power led is blinking
5. after a moment resume the eeepc (powerbutton) - after 2 or 3 second the 
eeepc is up and running
6. run Disk Utility and click SMART Data and after this click Refresh - 
error comes up and reporting disk will fail soon (screenshot)
7. after rebooting the system all is fine again! No errors

If Disk Utility reports the error there are red marked attributes (32,
50, 73 and 84), but they are not in the list before the error occures!
Mybe this is the issue? There also additional attributes (16 and 52)
which are marked as good. In all these attributes is No description for
attribute xy.

I think there is no error on the solid state disk, but the system
reports some attributes which are not defined in the Disk Utility.

Hope it may help you...

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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2010-03-03 Thread Stephane Chazelas
** Changed in: gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu)
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** Changed in: gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2010-02-12 Thread map-j
** Changed in: gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Released = Fix Committed

** Changed in: gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2009-12-08 Thread Alan Pope
** Changed in: gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Alan Pope (popey) = (unassigned)

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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2009-12-07 Thread CPO_Mendez
** Changed in: gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2009-12-07 Thread CPO_Mendez
** Changed in: gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu)
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** Changed in: gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2009-09-23 Thread James Tait
Hurrah! I no longer get nagged at boot time, and selecting Disk Utility
from the System menu the reallocated sector count now matches what the
command line tools say. For me at least, this does indeed appear to be
fixed.

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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2009-09-19 Thread Chris Coulson
This was fixed by the upload today - you will only get notified now if
your disk is _really_ failing, and you can opt out of the notifications
on a per-disk basis too:

gnome-disk-utility (2.28.0-0ubuntu1) karmic; urgency=low

  * New upstream release:
- Bug 592006 - Untranslatable string construction in gdu-drive.c
- Merge branch 'master' into ata-smart-ui-rework
- Land new ATA SMART user interface
- Fix build
- Fix POTFILES.in
- Bug 593381 - fix error caused by zh_CN translation
- Depend on the latest DeviceKit-disks API
  * Drop 02-fix-plural-declaration-in-zh_CN-help-translation.patch, applied
upstream.
  * debian/control:
- Bump devicekit-disks dependencies to = 007.
- Add libatasmart-dev build dependency.
  * debian/libgdu0.symbols, debian/libgdu-gtk0.symbols: Update for new
version.

 -- Martin Pitt  martin.p...@ubuntu.com   Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:59:56
+0200

** Changed in: gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Fix Released

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Re: [Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2009-09-11 Thread gpk
The other answer is

sudo aptitude remove gnome-disk-tools

Jean Roberto Souza wrote:
 Now this was a good answer. Thank you DjDarkman!
 
 On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:57 AM, mac_v drkv...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 DjDarkman ,
 The notification can be disabled from System Preferences Startup
 Applications Disk Notifications.
...

 But that is not a solution , since this would probably prevent the
 notification when the disk is really failing.

This is really a statistical problem.   Computer programmers shouldn't
argue. The thing is, it's very much like earthquake prediction.

If you predict an earthquake in San Francisco often enough, eventually
you'll be right.The San Andreas fault is there, and eventually it's
going to let go.The same with everyone's disk drives.However,
it's really not a good idea to warn San Francisco every month when
it might be 50 years until the next big earthquake.

People who predict earthquakes have understood the problem and don't
issue predictions because they know they cannot predict well enough
to be useful.   People who predict disk drives should do the same.
If you read the actual research papers on the subject, they come
to that conclusion.

The trouble is that if you are predicting an event that doesn't happen
very often, you can be in a difficult situation where
(a) You know the event is much more likely than normal, and
(b) the event is still very improbable.

So, for instance with disk drives, the average probability of failure
is about 1 in a thousand per month: 0.1% per month.If you
look at the SMART information, you can sometimes tell that this
disk drive is, perhaps, 5 times more likely to fail than normal.
But that's _still_ _small_.It's still 0.5% per month.

So, even after certain indicators of failure happen, there
might still be less than a 1% chance that the disk drive will
fail soon.In that case, the best thing to do is to
remain silent.

Why?   Because if someone listens to the warning, and acts on it,
the cost will be relatively large. Whereas the probability
of failure is still relatively small.

If you really have your heart tied to this software, if you really
love it like your first child, and you really don't want it disabled,
then the thing to do is to minimize the damage it causes.
In that case do the following:

Change the warning message from Your disk is failing
to Back up your data: SMART predicts a larger-than-normal
chance of disk failure.

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Re: [Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2009-09-11 Thread gpk
Are you the MIT Halbert from '81?
If so, hello!

Dan Halbert wrote:
 A more thorough discussion of this issue is in yet another Fedora bug:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498115.
 
 When I installed karmic, I too was falsely alarmed by palimpsest's
 warning about a single reallocated bad sector in a disk I've been using
 for years. I ran the manufacturer's test, which said there was no
 problem.
 
 I believe palimpsests's author, as quoted in #7, is not as well as
 informed as he could be about the non-zero number of failures one
 typically sees in disks these days.
 
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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2009-09-11 Thread Noel J. Bergman
There is a patch to fix the bogus reports, and that we should already
have that in Karmic.

The patch is
http://git.0pointer.de/?p=libatasmart.git;a=commitdiff;h=b7f3834654cb05f5a8aae6b2381d548f49d72987.

I have verified that the fix IS in the current Karmic package.  So is
anyone STILL seeing this problem?

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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2009-09-11 Thread Alan Pope
I'm using latest karmic updated as of a few minutes ago and the problem
still occurs.

Indeed its got worse, as now it nags me about a disk that doesn't even
have _any_ reallocated sectors. So I am now being nagged about two disks
(of the four in the machine).

See screenshot.

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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2009-09-11 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Alan,

Can you see what in the list is claimed as failing?  If not, that's a
problem in and of itself -- I hate idiot light reports.  Tell the user
WHAT is wrong, not just that something is wrong.

As you note, It should not be the sectors, at least not from
libatasmart4, given the presence of:

+/* We use log2(n_sectors) as a threshold here. We had to pick
+ * something, and this makes a bit of sense, or doesn't it? */
+sector_threshold = u64log2(d-size/512);
+
+if (sectors = sector_threshold) {
+*overall = SK_SMART_OVERALL_BAD_SECTOR_MANY;
+return 0;
+}
+}

and the fact that you don't have any marked as failing.  Lennart
Poettering seems to be entirely pragmatic and willing to adjust, so
let's just see if we can find out exactly what is being complained
about, and tweak that too, as necessary.

I don't get errors on either of my 500GB drives, but I'll check my older
SATA drives to see if they have any.  That would make it easier for me
to track down.

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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2009-09-11 Thread Alan Pope
One has 5 reallocated sectors the other has one pending reallocation.

Screenshots attached.

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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2009-09-11 Thread Alan Pope

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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2009-09-11 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Alan,

I have a drive here that generates the warning, but it does have some
reallocated sectors, although far below the threshold.  Same as the one
of yours with 5 reallocated sectors.

As I said to mac_v earlier today, I'll pull the code later this
afternoon or evening and start digging at this thing.

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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2009-09-09 Thread Dan Halbert
A more thorough discussion of this issue is in yet another Fedora bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498115.

When I installed karmic, I too was falsely alarmed by palimpsest's
warning about a single reallocated bad sector in a disk I've been using
for years. I ran the manufacturer's test, which said there was no
problem.

I believe palimpsests's author, as quoted in #7, is not as well as
informed as he could be about the non-zero number of failures one
typically sees in disks these days.

** Bug watch added: Red Hat Bugzilla #498115
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498115

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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2009-09-08 Thread DjDarkman
I don't think that this is helpful I don't understand what it's trying
to say, so it's basically useless to me, but that's not my problem, my
problem is that I don't know how can I easily disable it.

This tool reported every drive to be defective, even the one that was
only run for 30 days.

The strange thing is that I have yet to experience any data loss or
other problems, so I believe that this tool is extremely inaccurate.

If this tool is so inaccurate, how come it's enabled by default anyway?
If this only works correctly for some drives why does it checks drives
that it can't scan correctly.

I recommend disabling this tool by default and putting an option for
enabling it it the system settings, otherwise it will really annoy users
and wast their CPU cycles of course.

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[Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2009-09-08 Thread mac_v
DjDarkman ,
The notification can be disabled from System Preferences Startup 
Applications Disk Notifications.

If you want to check the disk status you can check later from System
Administration Disk Utility

But that is not a solution , since this would probably prevent the notification 
when the disk is really failing.
So, if you know your disk is not too damaged , you could just disable the 
startup item until this is fixed properly.

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Re: [Bug 412152] Re: gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing

2009-09-08 Thread Jean Roberto Souza
Now this was a good answer. Thank you DjDarkman!

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:57 AM, mac_v drkv...@yahoo.com wrote:

 DjDarkman ,
 The notification can be disabled from System Preferences Startup
 Applications Disk Notifications.

 If you want to check the disk status you can check later from System
 Administration Disk Utility

 But that is not a solution , since this would probably prevent the
 notification when the disk is really failing.
 So, if you know your disk is not too damaged , you could just disable the
 startup item until this is fixed properly.

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 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412152
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gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412152
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