[Bug 441835] Re: [Karmic] floppy is not working (Ubuntu 9.10)

2009-11-24 Thread Torkil Olesen
I just want to comment, that my floppy drive works well in an updated
version of 9.04 to 9.10, but it does not work from the common GUI
interface.

See my description in Bug #485684

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[Bug 441835] Re: [Karmic] floppy is not working (Ubuntu 9.10)

2009-11-24 Thread Sebastien Bacher
the duplicate bug mentioned in recent comments indicate the devicekit-
disks interface has issues with the floppy drive too, seems rather a bug
in devicekit-disks there

** Package changed: gvfs (Ubuntu) = devicekit-disks (Ubuntu)

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[Bug 441835] Re: [Karmic] floppy is not working (Ubuntu 9.10)

2009-11-23 Thread Andy Whitcroft
As the device is seen by udev and correctly created during the early
boot it does not seem to be a bug in the kernel.  It may be a
permissions issue with the fd drive device as made by udev, or
alternatively an issue at a higher level:

  KERNEL[1258912797.217841] add  /devices/platform/floppy.0/block/fd0 
(block)
  UDEV_LOG=3
  ACTION=add
  DEVPATH=/devices/platform/floppy.0/block/fd0
  SUBSYSTEM=block
  DEVNAME=fd0
  DEVTYPE=disk
  SEQNUM=1006
  MAJOR=2
  MINOR=0

Will add tasks for those levels for confirmation.

** Also affects: gvfs (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: udev (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 441835] Re: [Karmic] floppy is not working (Ubuntu 9.10)

2009-11-23 Thread Andy Whitcroft
The device seems to be being detected correctly and udev informed as we
do get a /dev/fd0.  So it seems either the device does not have
appropriate permissions, or the notification not being passed on to
higher layers, or indeed those layers may not be taking appropriate
action.  Therefore adding tasks for udev and for gvfs to see if they can
detemine why.  Logs are below for the udev components.

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Invalid

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Andy Whitcroft (apw)

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Re: [Bug 441835] Re: [Karmic] floppy is not working (Ubuntu 9.10)

2009-11-23 Thread John
Antec wrote:
 The company i work on have 103 Ubuntu computers and 80 of them are
 Ubuntu 8.04 LTS the rest is 9.04. We have four to test the new Ubuntu
 9.10. If the 9.10 not work properly can we not upgrade any more
 computers and we must wait and look on next LTS version and test them
 very hard.  OpenSUSE 11,2 have also problems with floppydrive there not
 working ether .

 This code is working like Francisco Canabas wrote but a new floppy
 module is started between the standard floppy module?  In case no other
 alternative are availability.

 sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 -o umask=000

   
We have 9.04 and 8.04 LTS, did not like 8.10 for some reason I recall it 
had prolbems too.
However 9.04 worked fine and I think what we will do is put it back onto 
the hard drive with 9.10 and just stop using 9.10 for a while.
Apart from the Open Office versions being different that has not much 
effect on  functionality as both work fine and I kind of think the older 
one that is still using firefox 3.0.15 and google chrome as we kept the 
old firefox and did not let it update to 3.5, and it has the new chrome 
it kind of seems more stable and faster once it is up and running. So 
there is a lot to be said that is good about 8.04 and 9.04.  9.10 
otherwise is pretty good, but I think up and running 9.04 is a better 
program and 8.04 is far more stable and proven dependable.

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Re: [Bug 441835] Re: [Karmic] floppy is not working (Ubuntu 9.10)

2009-11-23 Thread John
Andy Whitcroft wrote:
 The device seems to be being detected correctly and udev informed as we
 do get a /dev/fd0.  So it seems either the device does not have
 appropriate permissions, or the notification not being passed on to
 higher layers, or indeed those layers may not be taking appropriate
 action.  Therefore adding tasks for udev and for gvfs to see if they can
 detemine why.  Logs are below for the udev components.

 ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
Status: Triaged = Invalid

 ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
  Assignee: (unassigned) = Andy Whitcroft (apw)

   
I think the layers that would do something are just not in there to do 
it. I think they did USB support and forgot about floppy by ribbon cable 
as an internal device.
I think the developers were thinking more NOTEBOOK and less about 
desktop and older laptops.

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Re: [Bug 441835] Re: [Karmic] floppy is not working (Ubuntu 9.10)

2009-11-23 Thread John
Andy Whitcroft wrote:
 As the device is seen by udev and correctly created during the early
 boot it does not seem to be a bug in the kernel.  It may be a
 permissions issue with the fd drive device as made by udev, or
 alternatively an issue at a higher level:

   KERNEL[1258912797.217841] add  /devices/platform/floppy.0/block/fd0 
 (block)
   UDEV_LOG=3
   ACTION=add
   DEVPATH=/devices/platform/floppy.0/block/fd0
   SUBSYSTEM=block
   DEVNAME=fd0
   DEVTYPE=disk
   SEQNUM=1006
   MAJOR=2
   MINOR=0

 Will add tasks for those levels for confirmation.

 ** Also affects: gvfs (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

 ** Also affects: udev (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

   
What I did not try but it might work is get the program  titled floppy 
out of the older 9.04 repository and see if it will load in 9.10   As 
9.10 does not have that in it's repository, and the previous versions did.

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[Bug 441835] Re: [Karmic] floppy is not working (Ubuntu 9.10)

2009-11-23 Thread Sergio Zanchetta
** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Changed in: udev (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

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[Bug 441835] Re: [Karmic] floppy is not working (Ubuntu 9.10)

2009-11-23 Thread Scott James Remnant
The attached udev log shows that a device was created

** Changed in: udev (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Invalid

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Re: [Bug 441835] Re: [Karmic] floppy is not working (Ubuntu 9.10)

2009-11-23 Thread John
Scott James Remnant wrote:
 The attached udev log shows that a device was created

 ** Changed in: udev (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Invalid

   
I don't know anything about how it was made, I just know it don't work, 
so we will keep using older versions until it is fixed on the rest of 
the computers and at some point be adding an older version to this one 
so the floppy can be used.  The necessary software to use or read a 
floppy is not in Ubuntu 9.10.

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[Bug 441835] Re: [Karmic] floppy is not working (Ubuntu 9.10)

2009-11-23 Thread John
They just left out the necessary software that is needed to utilize an
internal floppy and until it is fixed we will just keep using older
versions that do work.  I don't think it is a bug, I think it is an
oversight that was just left out, by people thinking small notebook and
USB and not about the millions of laptops and desktops that do have
internal FLOPPY.  Someone just has to go back, add that in and then let
it go out in an update.

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