[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-05-09 Thread s7726
I had this pop up a couple times win 9.10, and it was usually fixed with
a reboot. Just had it crop up again in 10.04 and no amount of rebooting
fixed. I had to create a launcher on the desktop to run gnome-panel.

Woke up turned on computer, walked out of the room
Came back a couple min later. No panels and the Theme was wrong.
CTRL-ALT-F1 to the console and did a sudo shutdown -r now
Rebooted with the correct theme but still no panels.
rebooted a couple more times, with no luck
Found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=875887 after adding a 
google-chrome launcher
started gnome-panel, got my panels back and added gnome-panel to the list
found this.

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-04-02 Thread itsjustarumour
@Draycen - Sorry, been away from Launchpad for a few weeks.

Just a quick message to say thanks for all your work on this!  And sorry
we couldn't get to the bottom of it.  So far, all is working fine in
Lucid 10.04 - fingers crossed!

Best,

Itsjustarumour

:-)

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Re: [Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-04-02 Thread itsjustarumour
Hi Draycen,

Sorry, been away from Launchpad for a few weeks.

Just a quick message to say thanks for all your work on this! And
sorry we couldn't get to the bottom of it. So far, all is working fine
in Lucid 10.04 - fingers crossed!

All the best,

Itsjustarumour

:-)



On 2/28/10, Draycen DeCator ddeca...@gmail.com wrote:
 @itsjustarumour
 Unfortunately I have been unable to find a possible cause for the bug you
 are experiencing on Karmic. However, I have been told by another bug triager
 (more experienced than I am) that the fact that this problem seems to be
 resolved in Lucid qualifies it for the Fix Released status. I'm sorry that
 I have not been able to find a workaround for you. If you begin to
 experience the bug again in Lucid at any point, then please feel free to let
 us know so we can try to address it! Thanks again for reporting this bug,
 and please continue to report any other bugs you experience.

 ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu)
Status: Incomplete = Fix Released

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 Bug description:
 Binary package hint: gnome-panel

 What happens:

 When I start my Karmic 9.10 machine and the desktop loads, gnome-panel fails
 to start.  I can start it by running gnome-panel in terminal.  As a
 workaround, I have to add gnome-panel to the list of Startup
 applications.

 I have corresponded with several people on the Ubuntu forums who have had
 this same problem, although it seems - surprisingly - that nobody has
 reported this as a bug yet (apologies if I'm duplicating an
 already-reporting bug here, but I had a search and couldn't find one).

 I don't get this problem after a fresh install - only after I have installed
 my normal set of programs from the Ubuntu repos and then added my own icon
 and GTK 2.0 themes.  However - I have got the same problem on every single
 install of Karmic 9.10 that I have done (approx 10 installs, between 3
 machines) - so it is reproducible every time.

 Also, at approximately the same time that Karmic was released, Ubuntu
 automatic updates broke gnome-panel on my Jaunty 9.04 install, producing
 exactly the same problem.

 What should happen:

 gnome-panel should start when the desktop is loaded, without manual
 intervention from the user.

 Technical details:

 Distro Version - Ubuntu Karmic 9.10, 32-bit, default fresh install with
 latest updates
 Desktop Environment - GNOME 2.28.1 (Ubuntu 2009-11-03)
 Kernel - Linux 2.6.31-19-generic
 System - Athlon 64 3400 2.2GHz processor, NVidia 6800LE graphics, 1.5MB RAM
 GNOME Panel version - 2.28.0

 ProblemType: Bug
 Architecture: i386
 Date: Mon Feb  8 15:31:45 2010
 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala - Release i386 (20091028.5)
 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
 Package: gnome-panel 1:2.28.0-0ubuntu6
 ProcEnviron:
  LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
  SHELL=/bin/bash
 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-19.56-generic
 SourcePackage: gnome-panel
 Uname: Linux 2.6.31-19-generic i686
 XsessionErrors:
  (gnome-settings-daemon:2276): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_propagate_error:
 assertion `src != NULL' failed
  (gnome-settings-daemon:2276): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_propagate_error:
 assertion `src != NULL' failed
  (polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:2374): GLib-CRITICAL **:
 g_once_init_leave: assertion `initialization_value != 0' failed
  (nautilus:2371): Eel-CRITICAL **: eel_preferences_get_boolean: assertion
 `preferences_is_initialized ()' failed
  (firefox:4195): GLib-WARNING **: g_set_prgname() called multiple times

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-27 Thread Draycen DeCator
@itsjustarumour
Unfortunately I have been unable to find a possible cause for the bug you are 
experiencing on Karmic. However, I have been told by another bug triager (more 
experienced than I am) that the fact that this problem seems to be resolved in 
Lucid qualifies it for the Fix Released status. I'm sorry that I have not 
been able to find a workaround for you. If you begin to experience the bug 
again in Lucid at any point, then please feel free to let us know so we can try 
to address it! Thanks again for reporting this bug, and please continue to 
report any other bugs you experience.

** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Fix Released

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-24 Thread itsjustarumour
@Draycen - I've been scratching my head trying to work out the cause of
this bug.

Do you have an ideas about what might be corrupted, to cause this
problem?  Is there a particular config file in ~/home that I can try
recreating to see if I can fix it?  Or is there a particular
process/daemon that needs to start, to make the gnome-panel load?  Or
anything else I can look at to perhaps get some clues?  (feel free to go
all technical on me at this point, if it helps!)

When I first got this bug I did try numerous fixes on the Ubuntu forums,
but nothing worked...

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-24 Thread Draycen DeCator
@itsjustarumour
There is one possibility I started to wonder about last night. This is 
admittedly a shot in the dark, but one of the changes in the gnome-panel Change 
Log for Ubuntu Lucid is some changes to prevent crashes due to Xrandr. I was 
just recently working on another report that ended up being due to Xinerama 
conflicting with Xrandr. It is difficult to say if this could possibly be 
happening on your system too, especially since Xinerama is used for dual 
displays, but could you attach your xorg.conf file to this report? That will 
show whether Xinerama is enabled on your system or not so we can see if that is 
possibly related in any way. Depending on what your xorg.conf file says, I have 
a few ideas on how we can approach this bug. Thanks in advance!

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-24 Thread itsjustarumour

** Attachment added: Xrandr Karmic.png
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39746217/Xrandr%20Karmic.png

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-24 Thread itsjustarumour
@Draycen - OK, heres my xorg.conf  There doesn't actually seem to be
very much in there...

This is for my main NVidia-based desktop machine btw (I can't give you
the xorg.conf from my Intel-based laptop as well, because yesterday's
Karmic updates hosed GRUB 1.97~beta4 and right now I can't mount my root
file system on that one!)

I've also attached a couple of screenshots from Synaptic in 9.10, just
so you can see what I've got installed in terms of Xrandr and
Xinerama...

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-24 Thread itsjustarumour

** Attachment added: Xinerama Karmic.png
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39746230/Xinerama%20Karmic.png

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-24 Thread Draycen DeCator
Hm, that doesn't seem to be the issue at hand. Well, one thing you could
try is installing the latest version of gnome-panel on your Karmic
install and seeing if that resvolves the issue. If it does, then we will
at least know for sure that it is the gnome-panel package that is the
problem. If you're interested, you can get the .deb here:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/gnome-
panel_2.29.91-0ubuntu1_i386.deb . Afterwards we can always have you
reinstall the Karmic version if it causes any problems.

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-24 Thread itsjustarumour
@Draycen - Hmm, I had a look at the latest gnome-panel .deb package but
it needs 35 dependency packages installing as well and the too scary
light has come on, as this is now my only functioning Karmic system at
the moment and I need it for doing real work on so I'm a bit worried
about breakage...

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-24 Thread Draycen DeCator
Very understandable. I forgot to look at the dependencies before
suggesting you install that version. Let me do some more research over
the next few days and I will let you know if I find anything.

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-22 Thread Draycen DeCator
@itsjustarumour
Sorry for the delay, but I have finally installed roughly 98% of the software 
that was listed in the file you attached, and the gnome-panel still loads for 
me just fine. The only programs I did not install were a couple requiring a PPA 
(abiword for example), and a few I have had installed in the past without 
trouble (such as AWN and Evolution). Do you have any updates on this issue?

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-22 Thread itsjustarumour
@Draycen - sorry to hear you can't replicate this bug (OK, not sure if
that is a good thing or not in this case!)  I don't have any updates,
apart from this bug still exists for me in Karmic 9.10 with latest
updates, and Lucid 10.04 Alpha 2 is still working fine...

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-18 Thread itsjustarumour
@Draycen - OK, I'll go and work out how to generate a package list...

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-18 Thread itsjustarumour
@Draycen - dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall  ubuntu-files
gives me the following list that I've added as an attachment - does this
give you what you need?

For info, since setting up these machines and getting this bug, I have
added some extra software packages from 3rd-party repos and PPAs -
including Lotus Symphony 3.0 Beta, and GIMP 2.7.1 (unstable).  So if you
do some testing and try to set up a machine to reproduce this bug, there
is no need to install these packages as I know they are not the cause of
the problem.

** Attachment added: ubuntu-files
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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-18 Thread Draycen DeCator
Perfect! Thanks for providing me with that list. I will see what
packages I do not already have installed and will start testing tonight.
Hopefully I will be able to reproduce your bug so we can narrow down the
cause and see whether this really has been fixed.

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-18 Thread itsjustarumour
Great!   Just for info, I've given you a list for one of my (near-
identical) NVidia-based desktop machines.  I also get this same bug on
my laptop with Intel graphics.

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-16 Thread itsjustarumour
@Draycen.  Hello again.

No joy with Jaunty 9.10 I'm afraid, I was hoping I might have time to do
a fresh install at the weekend and install all the packages again, but
unfortunately I didn't have time.

However, the good news is I haven't managed to reproduce the bug on my
Lucid 10.04 Alpha 2 install.  I have installed almost everything on
Lucid that I had on Jaunty, and gnome-panel always starts OK.  The only
thing I haven't tested yet is google-desktop-linux.

@mikef187 and trev - I'm not sure if what you guys are seeing is the
same bug as me.  With this bug, gnome-panel fails to start at all, and
so I have no panels at either the top or the bottom of the screen.  With
what you are describing, the panels load but they are blank (no icons or
applets etc)  - please could you confirm, or perhaps enclose a
screenshot?  Many thanks.

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-16 Thread Draycen DeCator
@itsjustarumour
Thank you, you're right that Trev and Mike seem to be having a different 
problem with their systems. We appreciate all of the work that you are doing to 
try and narrow down the cause of this problem. I will try to do some testing 
with google-desktop-linux to see if I am able to reproduce this bug.

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-16 Thread itsjustarumour
@Draycen - I've just finished my testing with Lucid 10.04 - I've
installed all the packages that I had on Karmic 9.10 - including google-
desktop-linux. I have done lots of experimenting, and tried very hard to
break Lucid - but so far I can't replicate this bug.

So - I consider my final verdict to be: This bug appears to be fixed in
Lucid 10.04 Alpha 2.

:-)

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-16 Thread Draycen DeCator
@itsjustarumour
That's great to hear! I checked the changelogs, and there have indeed been some 
changes to help prevent crashing, however there is no way to know for sure 
whether these fixes have solved the problem you were previously experiencing 
since we don't know the exact conditions that created the bug in the first 
place. Because of that, I'm hesitant to have this bug marked as 'Fix Released' 
but I will consult with some others who specialize in GNOME within the next few 
days. In the mean time, just feel free to let us know if anything changes. 
Thanks again!

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-16 Thread Draycen DeCator
@itsjustarumour
I have confirmed that we are unable to mark this bug as having a fix released 
unless we know the exact cause of the bug and can find evidence in the change 
logs that the bug has in fact been fixed. Since you were able to reproduce this 
bug consistently in Karmic, I am hoping to test this on my own system. Could 
you please let me know what packages you had to install in order to get this 
bug to occur? If it is a long list that you do not want to leave in a comment, 
you can go to my Launchpad page and send me an email. Sorry this has taken so 
much work on your part. We really appreciate all of your help!

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-15 Thread Trev Peterson
I am also having this problem.  Here are some relevant details:

Problem system: Ubuntu 9.10 amd64 (nvidia drivers from ubuntu repo)
Unproblematic system: Ubuntu 8.10 x86 (32-bit) (nvidia drivers from ubuntu repo)
Both running roughly the same apps.

Problem: Periodically on boot the menubars are blank (both top and
bottom although System Monitor applet is still working in the bottom
one) and sticky notes are not displayed.  Desktop background and icons
are in place as usual.

Solution: killing the gnome-panel process (although the weather applet
is missing from the menubar after it restarts).

Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help with this.  It
recurs periodically (4 - 5 times since 9.10 install) and I think this
would effect newer users a lot more since there is no way to shutdown
properly or restore it without help (rebooting does not fix the issue).
Hope this helps,

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-15 Thread Draycen DeCator
@Trev
Thank you for letting us know that this bug affects you as well. Please click 
the Does this bug affect you? link at the top of this report and select 
Yes. By doing so, it will be easier for developers to see how many people are 
affected by the bug. 

Is there any way that you can cause this bug to occur consistently, or
is it always random?

Would you mind testing this in the latest developmental build of Lucid
Lynx as well? You can use a Virtual Machine or a Live CD to do so, but
this will help us determine if this bug has indeed been fixed in Ubuntu
10.04. You can find out more about the development release at
http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/

@itsjustarumour
Have you been able to reproduce this bug in Lucid Lynx at all? Are there any 
programs that you have narrowed down as possibly causing this bug? Any updates 
would be appreciated, thanks!

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-12 Thread mikef187
I second this problem. I have 2 different machines that boot and 3 times
out of 4 will fail to load any icon on the top or bottom panel. I
happened to have a terminal launcher on the desktop, so I haven't tried
the alt F2 trick. Running a killall gnome-panel brings everything up.

I also have a friend who claims that when he boots his menu is missing,
then he unplugs his network cord and reboots and it bots correctly. I'm
not sure how reliable this report is, but it maybe a place to start.

I check syslogs dmesg etc and I see nothing interesting.
What information would you like from my laptop, or desktop that may help?
lspci, lsusb, syslogs? request it and I'll send it.

Mike

9.10 problem started around first week of February.
PS very Stock systems.

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-12 Thread Draycen DeCator
@Mike
Thank you for letting us know that you are experiencing this problem as well. 
Could you please click on the Does this bug affect you? link at the top of 
this report and select Yes? It is far easier for developers to see how many 
people are affected by a certain bug this way as opposed to them having to read 
through all of the comments.

Also, would you mind testing this bug in Lucid Lynx? You can use a
Virtual Machine or a Live CD to do so, but this will help us determine
if this bug has indeed been fixed in Ubuntu 10.04. You can find out more
about the development release at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/ . Thanks
again and we appreciate your help.

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-11 Thread Pedro Villavicencio
** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Low

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-10 Thread itsjustarumour
Hello Draycen, no problem!  I can provide you with a list of installed
packages if you think it would help - although they aren't all from the
Ubuntu repos - as part of my standard Ubuntu setup I do install quite a
few packages from 3rd-party repo's like Medibuntu, GetDeb etc - although
only stable packages, nothing alpha from PPA's or anything like that
as these are production machines for me to get work done on.  I also
uninstall a handful of packages, although I can't see how that would
affect this bug.  Anyway, just let me know.

In the meantime, I've almost finished installing all the same packages
(or their Lucid equivalents) on my 10.04 alpha2 install, and not been
able to reproduce the bug - so perhaps its fixed in Lucid, or is an
upstream GNOME problem (I did have a quick search on GNOME Bugzilla but
couldn't find a match).

Anyway, I'll do a bit more experimenting and get back to you in a few
days with any updates!

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-10 Thread Draycen DeCator
Great! Thank you for responding so quickly and taking such a huge
initiative to figure out this bug. I use my machine for a lot of
software testing, so if you determine any package that could be the
culprit, even if not in the repos, then feel free to let me know and I
am willing to test it for verification.

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-08 Thread itsjustarumour

** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/38894571/Dependencies.txt

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-08 Thread Draycen DeCator
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make
Ubuntu better. Could you please list all of the steps that it takes you
to reproduce this bug? Do you know if there is any one particular step
that seems to be causing the problem? I am setting this bug as
Incomplete until there is more information.

** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Incomplete

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-08 Thread itsjustarumour
Hello Draycen, thanks for taking a look at this bug.

I'm still trying to work out if its installation of a particular
software package that causes this bug.  I think it must be, as I have
exactly the same set of programs installed on each Karmic machine I use.
However, so far I have been unable to narrow it down.  Originally I
thought it might be caused by Ubuntu-Tweak, but then the problem
appeared again on a machine without Ubuntu-Tweak installed.  So unless I
do another fresh install and install packages one at a time and reboot
to test after each one - which takes about 4 1/2 hours on my slow-ish
ADSL connection (I live a long way from the telephone exchange), then I
don't know what else to suggest.  Hopefully someone else who gets this
problem might be able to add information to this log.  In the meantime,
I am running a 10.04 alpha2 test install and installing a couple of
packages at a time, to see if I can replicate this bug on Lucid - but so
far its working OK.

Best Regards

itsjustarumour

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[Bug 518873] Re: gnome-panel fails to start when desktop loads

2010-02-08 Thread Draycen DeCator
Thank you for responding so quickly and taking the initiative to try and
narrow down the source. If you provide me with a list of possible
programs and/or appearance changes that you haven't ruled out, then I
can try to do some work to see if I can reproduce the bug. However, if
you want to keep working on the issue then by all means do so. Just keep
us updated!

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