[Bug 596165] Re: Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted
I no longer use Ubuntu and therefore cannot perform the task requested; if it is unimportant to the project as so many other bugs are, it is also unimportant to me. As there is no “closed” status for the bug tracker, I am marking this bug as invalid and muting future mails which might be generated from this bug. In case anyone cares to know, it is precisely this treatment of allegedly supported releases that I will no longer use the Ubuntu distribution. I reported this bug against Ubuntu 10.10. As Ubuntu 10.10 is still a supported release, the correct disposition for handling this bug in any project that is properly managed would be to fix the bug as reported, and then do the relatively trivial work to backport or forwardport the fix (if necessary) to any other as yet supported releases. This mentality of attempting to avoid work because there might be some chance that it might have been fixed is something which I find to be born of the inability to provide adequate support for the distribution. There are distributions out there that have less in the way of both financial and community resources, and yet perform worlds better when it comes to responding to both requests for help and bug reports. Should a Launchpad admin see this, I wish for my relationship to all bug reports in the Ubuntu distribution to be severed. Failing this, I would like an administrator to mute all bugs that I carry a relationship to within the Ubuntu project, so long as I do not have a relationship to that bug in some other way; for example, there are bug reports against the AllTray project (for which I am the maintainer) that are also linked to Ubuntu, and I do not wish to have those bugs muted. Failing all of that, I will merely attempt to find eight to ten hours so that I can do it myself, but it’d be far more efficient and courteous if someone with the ability to do so would just do it directly. And if you have read this far, then I thank you for paying attention to my words, even if it means not paying any mind to the bug report itself. ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/596165 Title: Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/596165/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 596165] Re: Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted
it's a request to add new code to handle cases not working now so yes it's a feature request -- Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/596165 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 596165] Re: Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted
On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 08:03 +, Sebastien Bacher wrote: it's a request to add new code to handle cases not working now so yes it's a feature request It is a request to add new code to handle an error in design specifications. One should not call a binary from desktop code without ensuring that the binary is already installed. This is a feature that already exists in other software, such as the file sharing software which will install Samba and what not when the user enables the feature and it's not already installed. Presumably (speaking as a programmer) the same sort of code can be used here. It seems to me that if it has not already been factored into its own thing, that it should so that other applications can easily benefit from it. However, I must say that I disagree with this being categorized as wishlist. I know that an average user would disagree, as well, because it's a cryptic error message that is received, not some sort of graceful message saying, Oops, you need to install package X, it just says that it failed to execute cryptsetup because of no such file or directory. That doesn't help people at all. This is a bug, albeit a design bug, but it is a bug nonetheless. That is, it is a defect. I'm not going to argue the point anymore, because I know that at this point it's not likely to change. I just thought that user interface/user experience was something a little more important than wishlist, and I was under the impression that the bug tracking software existed so that defects would be tracked as they were and not unnecessarily demoted. It would be more useful to make this a low or medium priority bug. Probably ideally, it could be classified as a low-priority, medium severity issue, but Launchpad does not permit that. However, classifying it as a wishlist item just trivializes the bug to an end-user. I'm glad that I reported it, and not my mother or my grandmother. --- Mike -- Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/596165 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 596165] Re: Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted
changing to low, it will not make any difference on how this bug is handled (it's not because a bug is a wishlist that it will not get solved and it's not because a bug has higher settings that will be worked quicker) but since you seem to care about random bug settings rather than about getting issues worked ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Importance: Wishlist = Low -- Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/596165 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 596165] Re: Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted
you can also not that a request to handle installation of new softwares when required is a new feature to add and a wishlist where reporting that the error text is unclear is a low importance bug but a bug, the bug setting also take into account that the vast majority of users will never has touched a media requiring what you ask and run into that issue -- Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/596165 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 596165] Re: Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted
On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 13:48 +, Sebastien Bacher wrote: changing to low, it will not make any difference on how this bug is handled (it's not because a bug is a wishlist that it will not get solved and it's not because a bug has higher settings that will be worked quicker) but since you seem to care about random bug settings rather than about getting issues worked It certainly does have an effect on people browsing for something to fix. It appears that it is you who do not care about the bigger picture. I do not appreciate your insults which have persisted over the years; it is wholly unprofessional and uncalled for. All I was asking was that the bug have a sane priority set to it. Wishlist connotes that fixing it is nonessential to the system itself, when in this case it is a user interface and user experience problem in the default system. You said in another message that users may never encounter it; well, they will encounter it the first time they try to format an encrypted USB drive or whatever. That ability is exposed in the user interface when you format media. If the media formatter didn't have the ability to create encrypted media, it would not be expected to work to create encrypted media out of the box. What is so difficult about this request and its rationale? For Maverick, there are three fixes for this bug: autoinstall cryptsetup when necessary, install it by default, or have the media formatter detect whether or not it is installed and only show the encrypted media options if it is. There are other ways to fix the bug, sure, but seriously, it's an issue that should be cared about if we actually give a rat's rear about users having problems. --- Mike -- Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/596165 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 596165] Re: Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted
I'm not sure where you saw insults there but having to argue with bug settings this way is quite iritating, a request to have some extra binary installation on event is a request to write new code and a wishlist by some definitions and that's why I've set the bug as a wishlist first, as said before you can see the unclear message as a low bug, in any case the setting doesn't mean the bug will not be fixed, it would really be easier for everybody if people would stop arguing over settings and focus on getting issues resolved, anyway thanks for your contribution there and let's see how we can get that issue fixed this cycle, the easy way would be to add a recommends to nautilus or udisks but that would let the bug to users who uninstall the recommends... -- Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/596165 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 596165] Re: Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted
** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist -- Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/596165 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 596165] Re: Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted
On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 09:30 +, Sebastien Bacher wrote: ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist Failing to automatically install cryptsetup results in a cryptic error message for the user. Is this truly a wishlist item per the desktop project's priorities? Is not user friendliness a relatively high priority for the desktop team? --- Mike -- Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/596165 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 596165] Re: Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted
cryptsetup seems to be installed by default on my lucid install. -- Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/596165 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 596165] Re: Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted
** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/50573611/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: GConfNonDefault.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/50573612/GConfNonDefault.txt ** Attachment added: usr_lib_nautilus.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/50573613/usr_lib_nautilus.txt -- Should auto-install cryptsetup when not present and encrypted media inserted https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/596165 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
