[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2016-10-15 Thread cazacugmihai
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 966237 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/966237

It is also reproduced in Ubuntu 16.04. Except of nautilus, everything
else works as expected.

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Re: [Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2013-01-08 Thread Dražen Lučanin
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 966237 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/966237

Yes, it is as if some elements used for scrolled windows respect the
Xmodmap and some don't.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Arend van Beelen jr.
951...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
 *** This bug is a duplicate of bug 966237 ***
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/966237

 I can confirm this bug is still relevant, at least on Ubuntu 12.10 on a
 Gazelle Professional laptop from System76 (has Ubuntu preinstalled).

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2013-01-07 Thread Arend van Beelen jr.
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 966237 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/966237

I can confirm this bug is still relevant, at least on Ubuntu 12.10 on a
Gazelle Professional laptop from System76 (has Ubuntu preinstalled).

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-11-05 Thread Steven Roose
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 966237 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/966237

** Bug watch added: Email to zedtux@zedroot #
   mailto:zed...@zedroot.org

** Also affects: naturalscrolling via
   mailto:zed...@zedroot.org
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-07-06 Thread Louis M
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 966237 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/966237

You can try adding this in your xorg.conf file:

Section InputClass
Identifier  Touchpad
Driver   synaptics
MatchIsTouchpad on
MatchDevicePath /dev/input/event*
Option  VertScrollDelta -235
Option  HorizScrollDelta -235
EndSection

You can change the 235 values for anything you want. It work for me.

Louis

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-05-19 Thread ianp5a
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 966237 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/966237

They are working on Ubuntu Tweak to try to cover this issue.
It was supposedly fixed in Ubuntu Tweak 0.71 but appears not to work.
Ubuntu Tweak Bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-tweak/+bug/995748

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-05-12 Thread Rob Allen
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 966237 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/966237

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 966237
   Scrolling directing is hard-coded/reversed from xinput

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-05-12 Thread Chascon
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 966237 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/966237


And someone reported it upstream, actually two people.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=675047


https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674716 which interestingly reads, 
but it seems this fix is for trackpads only, and not mice.
So, the command to play around with for xi2.2 is

xinput set-prop deviceid Synaptics Scrolling Distance -vert
-horiz

to find good values for vert and horiz, look at the current values with
xinput list-props deviceid

Note that this only works with the synaptics driver currently, and only with
version 1.6 (or 1.5.99.something).

Also note that the interia calculation in the driver seems to be broken for
negative deltas, so you'll have to set Synaptics Coasting Speed to 0 0 for
now, or else you'll get 'infinite scrolling'.

For more details,
http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=16p=22816149

Also read
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-input-synaptics/commit/?id=1874094f0e99d8db319f6cf769ce5a25c9bc490c
and
http://who-t.blogspot.com.au/2011/09/natural-scrolling-in-synaptics-driver.html



** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #675047
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=675047

** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #674716
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674716

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-05-06 Thread Chascon
I thought about calling it a regression but for that to be valid, I
would think the bug would have need to have existed prior to now, so as
to regress to a previous (broken) state. What's happening here is that
it simply isn't working, in a __new__ way.

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-05-06 Thread Chascon
And by the way, I think this bug should be reported directly to gnome or
gtk people, or both.

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-05-05 Thread Umang Varma
Here's some information that I wasn't able to find in this discussion,
so I thought I'd post it.

Natural scrolling can be achieved by putting the following in ~/. :
pointer = 1 2 3 5 4 7 6 8 9 10 11 12. In man xmodmap, there is a
description of the program does. The codes can be found by running xev.

This is a regression as every application in 11.10 seemed to work as
expected when .Xmodmap was changed. However, certain programs don't seem
to respect .Xmodmap in 12.04.

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-04-16 Thread Chascon
So natural scrolling is part of something larger called smooth scrolling
in Gnome and it's automatically enabled if it picks up on a tablet or
some other ultra-portable medium. But where does leave us mouse/pad
users --be that of desktops or laptops--  that prefer natural scrolling?
Apparently, the answer is that we're on our own because xmodmap  (or at
least natural scrolling initiated via xmodmap) is an unsupported hack
(unsupported configuration ... gnome-tweak to enable weird options).

The more I thought about this problem, the more I came closer to
realizing a few things.

1. Natural scrolling via xmodmap (and gtk+ or qt) is NOT a hack, and
less an unsupported one for that matter. How do I know this? Because I
remembered that xmodmap is an Xorg utility. We still use Xorg, after
all.

2. My .Xmodmap is indeed being picked up; I know this because I've
reassigned some keys and they're implemented properly. So, gtk+/gnome is
selectively not picking up on the reverse scrolling directive.
Therefore, what's happening here is that gtk+/Gnome is not abiding by X
protocols. In other words, gtk/Gnome is at fault here and in that sense
it IS most certainly a bug.

3. I can only assume that in their desire to cater to the ultra-portable
market Gnome devs have forgotten about xmodmap, in as far as scrolling
direction (they do have event structures and something called
GdkScrollDirection ), and hard coded directionality with their smooth
scrolling. And this is probably the source of the bug.

Solution
Allow user intervention. This is not unheard of as “Reverse Scrolling 
Direction” under System Settings is already implemented by KDE (see 
http://imagecdn.maketecheasier.com/2011/09/naturalscrolling-kde.png).


Aside
The Ubuntu app called naturalscrolling does not work and seems to have messed 
with other key reassignments, by the way, when I tried it.

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-04-16 Thread Chascon
** Also affects: nautilus
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: gtk
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-04-16 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Right, to summary:

- that's an upstream issue and you are arguing at the wrong place, we
just don't have resources to fix all upstream issues

- that setting is neither documented nor exposed in any UI on the
default installation

- the two first item mean the priority to get it fixed by our team is
Low, we would welcome patches but we have thousand of desktop bugs
open and wishlist for hidden options just don't rank enough to be likely
to be worked any time soon

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-04-10 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Right, well what you call natural scrolling is not an officially
supported option by gtk or GNOME which means you will not be able to get
it working as you want for a pad or mouse, the new GTK does that
automatically through smooth scrolling on touchscreen devices though, so
if you install precise on a tablet, scrolling using the screen should
work in the natural way

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-04-07 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Thanks Chascon, well that's an hidden option so no wonder it's untested
and has issues. You speak about touch devices but for those GTK 3.4 has
smooth scrolling which should work correctly with the correct
direction, I tested in nautilus and it does work as it should.

bug #949465 was about scrolling not working at all on 32 bits arch, it's
a different issue from yours, what you describe seems to be a gtk bug,
ideally somebody would report it upstream:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=gtk%2B

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-04-07 Thread Chascon
Sebastien: 
I've tested the if my macbook pro pad registers natural scrolling and it does 
not. To clarify, when my fingers glide over the pad towards me, the on-screen 
document scrolls to the bottom of the page rather than to the top (as it should 
in natural/reverse scrolling).

So unless setting 5 before 4 in .Xmodmap is screwing up a gtk's already
implemented, it's still a problem on pads, nor is it working with mice.

As for gnome picking up this feature because it's part of gtk, well,
I've looked at Unity's mouse preference pane and there's nothing called
smooth scrolling there, much like the case with nautilus' preference
pane, too.

As for that term, smooth scrolling  is confusing and reading about it
on the net shows that some talk about literally smooth transitions
from top to bottom ( vice versa) in  any document, as opposed to jerky
movement (jumping 2 or 3 lines with each movement of the wheel of the
mouse).  Again, to be clear, I believe both Ronald and I are not
referring to this feature. We're only concerned with, as is this bug,
the cause and effect of directionality of movement with any and all
pointer apparatus.

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-04-06 Thread ubun2-fan
..looks like some misunderstanding. If i try to help making ubuntu better and 
issue a problem with 'n a t u r a l  scrolling'  doesn't mean 'smooth 
scrolling'. Thats a difference as between appel and pineapple ;)
Ubuntu works fine by now, but why is it that on three of my computers i notice 
natural scrolling is still not working as it should and you guys keep reporting 
it 'works fine'!  And why is the status is migrated to incomplete.. 

again. natural scrolling setting in ~.Xmodmap mouse pointer setting
changed to 5 before 4 is not picked up the right way by nautilus. Either
manually set or bij some tweak tool.  What more info do you want.

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-04-06 Thread Sebastien Bacher
right, I still don't understand what natural scrolling is but using
.Xmodmap is a power user unsupported configuration mean as is using
gnome-tweak to enable weird options

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-04-06 Thread Chascon
When Apple releases Mac OSX Lion, one of the changes is the switching of the 
trackpad/mouse scrolling direction. Instead of scrolling the mouse wheel down 
to move down the page, you have to scroll up to move down. Apple imported this 
feature from iOS and call[s] this feature “natural scrolling”. Not everyone 
love[s] this feature, but if you are one of those ... to implement this feature 
in Ubuntu, here’s how you do it:
http://maketecheasier.com/reverse-mouse-scrolling-direction-in-ubuntu/2011/09/16

It's also called reverse scrolling and Apple did not invent it. They
just realized it was a natural progression and a way to consolidate with
the touch screen (which is where this stems from).

It's not arcane or weird. I can just imagine that touchscreen users
could be affected by this as well, and since that's the new market
everyone (including Canonical) is vying for, it's noteworthy.

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-04-06 Thread ubun2-fan
Chascon thnx but i know how it has to be enabled. try it, and you'll see
that nautilus does not respond to that.

..but i leave this now, for me no bug-reports any more if no
understanding or discouraging answers.

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-04-06 Thread Chascon
ubutn2-fan: My comment was not geared towards you but informing
Sebastian as to what it was. And you're correct, it does not work. It
doesn't work in software center, or update manager, neither.

I even reported it as so, see:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/971564
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/971573

Anyway, I've confirmed it to get the ball rolling. It's not assigned to
anybody but hopefully someone will write/apply a patch.

** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Confirmed

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-04-06 Thread Chascon
And I've marked my reports as duplicates of this one.

Cheers.

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-04-06 Thread Chascon
Apparently the bug Vadeem links this as a duplicate to is fixed.
Sebastien says (therein) that any continued problems are likely to be
other bugs. So, since we continue to have the same problem,  this should
not be a duplicate of
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxi/+bug/949465

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-04-05 Thread ubun2-fan
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 949465 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/949465

I do think it is related. Don't want to be a wiseguy about it, but it
still is not working as it should do if .Xmodmap settings are in place
for natural scrolling. So why should it not be related? thanks for your
reaction though!

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-04-05 Thread Sebastien Bacher
not sure what gnome-tweak does but it doesn't seem a supported
feature, smooth scrolling work in nautilus using touch devices as it
should though

** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 949465
   XIScrollClass increment value incorrectly handled on 32-bit machines

** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Incomplete

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-04-04 Thread Calvin Li
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 949465 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/949465

This bug appears to be unrelated to #949465.

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-03-10 Thread Sebastien Bacher
so that's an input device feature? does it work in other gtk3
applications like gedit, eog, evince, etc?

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Re: [Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-03-10 Thread ROnaldve
I tried these programs and yes, that worked ok as in yes natural scrolling 
works normal. As i said, in all other programs it does to like libreoffice, 
browsers, except nautilus.
  _  

From: Sebastien Bacher [mailto:seb...@ubuntu.com]
To: ron...@vaneendenburg.nl
Sent: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:55:29 +0100
Subject: [Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

so that's an input device feature? does it work in other gtk3
  applications like gedit, eog, evince, etc?
  
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  Status in “nautilus” package in Ubuntu:
Incomplete
  
  Bug description:
I came to the conclusion after updates of ubuntu 12.04 on march the
9th, nautilus did not handle natural scrolling anymore, while in
Chrome or Firefox or even any other application it still does. I
enabled this feature in gnome-tweak and all works fine, except in
nautilus.
  
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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-03-10 Thread Vadim Rutkovsky
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 949465 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/949465

Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make
Ubuntu better. This particular bug has already been reported and is a
duplicate of bug 949465, so it is being marked as such. Please look at
the other bug report to see if there is any missing information that you
can provide, or to see if there is a workaround for the bug.
Additionally, any further discussion regarding the bug should occur in
the other report. Feel free to continue to report any other bugs you may
find.

** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Confirmed

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-03-10 Thread Vadim Rutkovsky
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 949465 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/949465

Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make
Ubuntu better. This particular bug has already been reported and is a
duplicate of bug 949465, so it is being marked as such. Please look at
the other bug report to see if there is any missing information that you
can provide, or to see if there is a workaround for the bug.
Additionally, any further discussion regarding the bug should occur in
the other report. Feel free to continue to report any other bugs you may
find.

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 949465
   XIScrollClass increment value incorrectly handled on 32-bit machines

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-03-09 Thread Paolo Rotolo
** Summary changed:

- nautilus not natural srolling
+ nautilus not natural scrolling

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[Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-03-09 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Thank you for your bug report, what Ubuntu version do you use? What do
you call natural scrolling?

** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Incomplete

** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Low

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Re: [Bug 951123] Re: nautilus not natural scrolling

2012-03-09 Thread ubun2-fan
Ubuntu version 12.04. Natural scroll is like your touchpad is your
screen. Up on touchpad is up the content of the window. Like on a
smartphone.. up with your thumb on the screen is up that content.

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