[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Looks like all recent reports are pointing to bug 1683383 instead so let's just use that. ** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Tags added: jammy kinetic -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Tags removed: impish -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Ubuntu 21.04 is no longer supported. If you are using 21.04, please upgrade to 21.10. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
I don't understand why hirsute has been removed, I'm using it and just hit this bug. Please restore the hirsute tag. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Tags removed: hirsute -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Daniel (or anyone else), can you explain why the current state of things with keyboard shortcuts is considered better? Here is how I see it works in Windows and Ubuntu. How it works in Windows: (I press Ctrl) + (I release Ctrl) = the mouse pointer is shown. (I press Ctrl + I press Shift) + (I release Ctrl + I release Shift) = a keyboard layout changed. (I press Ctrl + I press Shift + I press N) + (I release Ctrl + I release Shift + I release N) = a new folder created. How it works in Ubuntu: --- (I press Ctrl) = the mouse pointer is shown. (I press Ctrl) = the mouse pointer is shown. Though, I wanted also to press Shift, then release Ctrl and Shift and get a keyboard layout changed. (I press Ctrl) = the mouse pointer is shown. Though, I wanted also to press Shift and N, then release Ctrl, Shift and N and get a new folder created. As you can see, even if dozens of shortcuts are possible, they get completely useless in Ubuntu as they get blocked immediately one presses Ctrl (in the example I presented). I always thought that making things easier and faster is very important (especially, nowadays). It's easier and faster to copy/paste via Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V than via Edit menu where you have to find where those copy/pase items reside. Maybe I and other users don't understand something. Explain, please. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Tags removed: disco eoan trusty ** Tags added: focal hirsute impish -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
@nrbrtx it works for me (Ubuntu 20.04 LTS) Strl+Shift+t now works but still switches layout. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
@nrbrtx it works! Thank you very much! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
@Yuriy Chernichenko (nikosid) I have just uploaded newest HWE package versions with latest security fixes to the PPA. You have to try adding it again and upgrading Xorg packages from it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
@nrbrtx, hi. Thank you so much for your patch. I'm using it for more than one year, but few days ago I reinstalled my OS and it doesn't work now. I tried to completely reinstall it but it didn't help. I use xubuntu 18.04.5 LTS. Can you help or give some advice? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
The GNOME issue is completely separate from the problem of "triggering layout change on press", as GNOME does not use the kxb behavior at all - it actually disables any options set using setxkbmap - instead it listens to keyboard events and implements its own custom behavior that mimics Mac OS. Note that with the current release (19.10, but also tested 20.04) on Kubuntu with xserver 1.20 that *does not* include the patch from freedesktop.org bug 865, layout switching works on release - as requested. I'm not sure what introduced this behavior and whether it is in X.org or in KDE. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
I am running ubuntu 19.10 with recent gnome 3 and did not find any working solution to switch layout on Ctrl +Shift shortcuts key release. Eventualy i wrote a dirty workoround to fit my needs. https://gitlab.com/softkot/gnome3_xinput_layout_switch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
It is not a bug, its a feature. To speed up the typing. Set the layout change on CapsLock. (In a case you need old caps behavior, you get it with shift + Caoslock) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
I have an Ubuntu 16.04, how I can restore the normal behavior? I mean change on Keypress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
I would say, that change on Keypress _must_ be the default behavior, because in an opposite case, there are problems of typing, if toogle in on CapsLock, and you are typing rapidly. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
@Norbert I have Laptop with 16.04. And Alt+Shift, Alt+Shift+Tab are working ok. I have also tested it with new default installation in Virtualbox. And it also works fine. And it doesn't matter if i use Mate or Unity. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Just a silent reminder: I have created a PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~nrbrtx/+archive/ubuntu/xorg-hotkeys ) with patched packages for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (xenial, with HWE) and upwards (including upcoming 19.10), use its description for instructions. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
So. This problem is still here. I found following situation: On older 16.04 layout is changing with releasing Control/Shift/Alt keys. In 18.04 layout is changing while pressing key combination. May be it is setting somewhere in X.org? Is it possible to find and change it? It can affect all people in the world, that have non latin-like language as basic language. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Tags removed: cosmic -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Changed in: xorg-server Status: Unknown => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Bug watch added: gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues #258 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues/258 ** Changed in: xorg-server Importance: High => Unknown ** Changed in: xorg-server Status: Fix Released => Unknown ** Changed in: xorg-server Remote watch: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #865 => gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues #258 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Changed in: xorg-server Status: Unknown => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812]
Hi! I have the same issue i would like to know the solution Castro B, gratisdatingsite.nl -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Someone should revert this 'Fix Released' status - it is here again in 18.04 (and according to forums in 17.x also). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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[Bug 36812]
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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Tags removed: artful ** Tags added: cosmic disco eoan -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
SOLUTION For myself I created temporary hack allowing to switch Keyboard layouts (en<->ru) by Ctrl+Shift on key release. My method does not interfere with other shortcuts. I use it myself on daily basis. It's simple Python script which listen to Ctrl+Shift key combination and switch layout on release. It can be downloaded here https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IvgvLFwe2HoGtEzuQnrUoAnEZk1ZCcSw/view?usp=sharing Please read instructions in ReadMe.txt -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812]
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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Changed in: xorg-server Status: Confirmed => Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812]
-- GitLab Migration Automatic Message -- This bug has been migrated to freedesktop.org's GitLab instance and has been closed from further activity. You can subscribe and participate further through the new bug through this link to our GitLab instance: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues/258. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
more than 12 years of this bug. a shame. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Why does it not in default settings? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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FYI the bug may be temporarily fixed on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (with HWE), Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (and Mint 19) using packages from my PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~nrbrtx/+archive/ubuntu/xorg-hotkeys or " ppa:nrbrtx/xorg-hotkeys " ). It contains patched Xorg (with patch from kyak - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xorg-server-bug865/ ). Thank you very much again, kyak! And it is unbelievable that we need to patch core graphical system component by ourselves to use traditional keyboard shortcuts ... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Oleg from comment #153) > (In reply to Serge Roussak from comment #152) > > (In reply to Oleg from comment #151) > > > Did the old patch work for you? I mean could you switch the layout > > > pressing > > > Ctrl while combos like Ctrl-S also worked as expected? > > > > Which patch do you mean when you say "old"? > > The one that was made for Xorg versions prior to 1.19 > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=126753 > > The whole problem is that 1.19 needs a new one - this is the one provided by > kyak https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=129861 I have used the last one with the xorg-server v.1.19.3. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Did the old patch work for you? I mean could you switch the layout pressing Ctrl while combos like Ctrl-S also worked as expected? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Nikolay from comment #155) > There is now once more spike of activity here - probably because Ubuntu > 17.04 was released recently which dropped this patch because it was not > compatible with newer xorg. kyak has provided an updated patch, but it would > take a lot of time for distributions to pick it up and then circle would > repeat with next xorg version. On Ubuntu 16.04.03 LTS I just went from using Unity to Gnome. With some back and forth with lightdm vs. gdm and the screen lock issues I got things working more or less until I stumbled over what probably are the ripples of this old bug (and I couldn't agree more with Nikolay and his comment). I had two keyboard layouts running with Unity, and as everybody seems to have, I used Alt-Shift to switch layouts, just like on my Windows laptop. And like almost everyone else, I of course have Alt-Shift-Tab set for cycling backwards through windows (after jumping through all sorts of hoops to tell the window manager not to group windows of the same app...). I reported my issue at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786257 which obviously was the wrong place. And now I found this bug here. I haven't taken the time to understand all the details, so I apologize for the outside perspective. Yet, I am of the opinion that it should be possible to define shortcuts such that they trigger their event only upon release, not upon press, because as noted by everyone else here it makes it impossible to define "release" shortcuts that are "prefixes" of other shortcuts, and this is a severe limitation that becomes highly practically relevant for the usual keyboard layout switching shortcut that just so happens to be a prefix of the usual window backwards switching shortcut. There have been much worse backward incompatibilities in Linux. And while I hate seeing things break by such changes, here my very personal view is that should this really present a problem that cannot be solved in a backward-compatible way (e.g., by letting users distinguish between "release" and "press" shortcut definitions) then so be it. What is this compared to deprecating X11, then xorg and at some point also Wayland...? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Oleg from comment #149) > > And the layout switching - does it occur when you press Ctrl+s? Could you > please test with Ctrl+Shift? No, it does not. Currently I could not to test multi-keys switching combinations. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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> - Can you describe a bit how you imagine the changes to xkeyboard-config > would look with this approach? We would need changes wherever we want the new behaviour. I would prefer to create new options for group switching, rather than modifying existing options. Comments #117 and #118 show examples. Basically, I imagine we use explicit action specifications. However, unless as shown in the examples, with changes to xkbcomp, one could write 'LockMods' with an 'group' option, rather than using the cryptic 'Private' actions. > - Do you think this can be done in a backwards compatible way? As far as > xkbcommon is concerned, I am only interested in this scenario: old library > (unaware of the new LockMods options) & new keymap (in textual form, > modified with the new flags). Certainly, an old library or application would get parse errors when it encountered the new options in textual form. If xkeyboard-config adds new options rather than modifying old ones, users could just keep using the old options until they upgraded the library/application. If the library/application parses only used stuff, that would circument transitional compatibility issues. For an old xkbcomp with a new xkeyboard-config, I believe that would work. As I far as remember, xkbcommon intentionally does not support 'Private'; otherwise, using it could help during the transition. > X has more compatibility concerns, Yes. Peter's main concern was that some tools might create binary forms of a layout where the two bytes that now get a meaning are not zero, but set to some random values (zero is fine, as it will have no effect in the new interpretation). His idea was to bump the protocol version, but that is beyond my capabilities, so I gave up at this point. Anyway, current xkbcomp puts the bytes to zero, so the combination of an old xkbcomp with new X-server would be no problem, ever without the precaution of a protocol version bump. > BTW: xkbcommon already supports noLock/noUnlock in LockMods (unlike xkbcomp), > based on your work[1]. So I hope the approach does not rely on these not > already working :) With my proposal, xkbcomp should be touched anyway, and this is just one of three occasions where I unsuccessfully tried to get noLock/noUnlock supported in xkbcomp. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Serge Roussak from comment #148) > Yes, exactly. If I assign the left Ctrl as the switching key, then if I try > to save a file in a text editor with the Ctrl+S, I got the "s" char in the > file. And the layout switching - does it occur when you press Ctrl+s? Could you please test with Ctrl+Shift? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Serge Roussak from comment #146) > Try, please, apply your patch, assign the left Ctrl as switching key and > then to save something in the kate editor (or other) using Ctrl+S... You mean to say the new patch doesn't work for you? Please be more clear. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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You are right, thanks for pointing that out. Updated patch attached. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to kyak from comment #142) I mean dereferencing sendEvent pointer. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Dear xorg developers. This is an old bug. In fact this is a 13 years old bug. And it has been at least 7 years since this bug had a patch to fix it. Yes, existing patch breaks specification. But one would seem that the fact that patch existed for 7 years and was applied by default by popular distributions without users` complains would suggest that existing patch is a practical solution to the problem despite breaking theoretical (and as discussed here - not well thought through) specification. There is now once more spike of activity here - probably because Ubuntu 17.04 was released recently which dropped this patch because it was not compatible with newer xorg. kyak has provided an updated patch, but it would take a lot of time for distributions to pick it up and then circle would repeat with next xorg version. Yes, there has been a few heated discussions around this patch and XKB specification. And yes, specifications are important, but this is really annoying problem for people with more than one keyboard layout. Annoying to the point of making xorg really unusable for some groups of people. So is there any chance to get more practical with this bug? For example, kyak's patch has a function 'xkbSwitchGroupOnRelease' that is a stub to make new behaviour controllable by configuration. Would xorg maintainers find this patch acceptable to upstream if that function read value from some environment variable and only turned new behaviour on if it was set? I feel like it would allow XKB spec to stay and also would allow users affected by this problem to solve it without recompiling xorg - which average user would struggle to do. Looking forward to your reply. Thanks! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Not really.. This is something that has changed from 1.18 to 1.19. "act" is now already passed as reference to XkbActionGetFilter. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Thanks Andreas, I had missed this in the previous discussion. First, I must say it's a very clever hack :) I have not looked at it deeply yet, but I have some initial questions: - Can you describe a bit how you imagine the changes to xkeyboard-config would look with this approach? - Do you think this can be done in a backwards compatible way? As far as xkbcommon is concerned, I am only interested in this scenario: old library (unaware of the new LockMods options) & new keymap (in textual form, modified with the new flags). X has more compatibility concerns, xkbcomp/client/server/libxkbfile/protocol/Xlib/etc, but allow me to ignore that for now. BTW: xkbcommon already supports noLock/noUnlock in LockMods (unlike xkbcomp), based on your work[1]. So I hope the approach does not rely on these not already working :) [1] https://github.com/xkbcommon/libxkbcommon/commit/7c5e79159b5f5cd533a078c7672705e2ffa0a798 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Created attachment 129861 The same patch, but based on 1.19.1 (fixed) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Try, please, apply your patch, assign the left Ctrl as switching key and then to save something in the kate editor (or other) using Ctrl+S... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Nikolay, First, background: I am not a xorg developer, but I develop the XKB library used by most Wayland compositors (xkbcommon). The behavior there is the same. IMO it is worth having a discussion about the behavior. A nice thing about XKB is that it has a specification. It is easier to discuss behavioral changes against a spec than hard-to-understand X code, or 150 comments bugs. Therefore, my proposal for you (or anyone else who is interested in changing the behavior) is to provide a patch against the spec. Even if the actual spec will never change, I still think that a clear proposal, which also considers possible side effects, is the first step forward here. The current spec and the most relevant section is here: https://www.x.org/releases/current/doc/kbproto/xkbproto.html#Key_Actions The current source for the above spec is in the kbproto repository here: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/proto/kbproto/tree/specs/ch06.xml?id=kbproto-1.0.7#n586 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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No, I am only talking about myself, as a developer of xkbcommon; as I said, I am not a xorg developer so I cannot speak for that. I do not really mind if the spec is actually changed or not, what I am interested in is: 1. A clear and precise description of the proposed change. 2. A serious consideration of how other parts of the spec may be affected by the change. You know how you want it to behave, so just write it down in the form a patch against the spec. Then we can discuss further, with the goal of reaching a solution in xkbcommon, at least. Let me know if you (or anyone else who wants to do it) need any help. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to kyak from comment #140) > Created attachment 129860 [details] [review] > The same patch, but based on 1.19.1 You are missing dereference in XkbSA_LockMods case... > case XkbSA_LockMods: >+filter = _XkbNextFreeFilter(xkbi); >+sendEvent=_XkbFilterLockMods(xkbi, filter, key, act); >+break; > case XkbSA_LockGroup: > filter = _XkbNextFreeFilter(xkbi); >-*sendEvent = _XkbFilterLockState(xkbi, filter, key, act); >+*sendEvent = _XkbFilterLockGroup(xkbi, filter, key, act); -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Yes, exactly. If I assign the left Ctrl as the switching key, then if I try to save a file in a text editor with the Ctrl+S, I got the "s" char in the file. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Oleg from comment #151) > Did the old patch work for you? I mean could you switch the layout pressing > Ctrl while combos like Ctrl-S also worked as expected? Which patch do you mean when you say "old"? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Serge Roussak from comment #152) > (In reply to Oleg from comment #151) > > Did the old patch work for you? I mean could you switch the layout pressing > > Ctrl while combos like Ctrl-S also worked as expected? > > Which patch do you mean when you say "old"? The one that was made for Xorg versions prior to 1.19 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=126753 The whole problem is that 1.19 needs a new one - this is the one provided by kyak https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=129861 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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The issue of fixing the spec was raised before, and the answer thn was: (Vasily Khoruzhick from comment #37) > Daniel is now working on XKB2, so fixing/changing XKB1 has no sense :) As far as I know, XKB2 was never released, not even as a draft. Are you saying that the situation has changed and changes to XKB are now welcome? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Created attachment 131147 Proposed extension of the XKB protocol. > Therefore, my proposal for you (or anyone else who is interested in changing > the behavior) is to provide a patch against the spec. That is a very good proposal. The patch formalises my proposal from comment #112. An implementation was posted it the following thread: https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2012-November/034427.html -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Did somebody tested Russian rulemak keyboard layout? It is between the extra layouts. It is based on russian layout with latin letters. I' m not a russian man, but I think, just testing first is a good idea! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Viktor, could you please elaborate how exactly that may be useful here? I would also like to ask you to make sure you contribute useful content to this discussion, or if you cannot, resist from posting. I don’t think it helps anyone to to support flamewars in this bug report, or even make the discussion longer than necessary. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Just tested simple idea on Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS with MATE DE. Out-the-box it has Xorg 1.18.4 which perfectly allow user to set for example keyboard shortcut for keyboard layout switching. But when I install HWE on 16.04 LTS I get newer Xorg 1.19.5. Debian 8 (Xorg 1.16.4) and 9 (Xorg 1.19.2) have this problem too (see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=891915 ). So versions 1.16.4, 1.19.2 and 1.19.5 should be patched to bring keyboard shortcut functionality back. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Andreas Wettstein from comment #190) > No news since. Apart from the formal proposal, there are some old patches > for its implementation: > https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2012-November/034427.html > https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2012-November/034430.html > https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2012-November/034429.html > https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2012-November/034431.html > https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2012-November/034428.html Here's what I think we would need to do in order to not break old clients: https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-devel/2013-January/035049.html Another, probably better, way to do it would be to define a new flag like XkbSA_HasGroupFlags inside the XkbModAction flags field when group_flags and group_XXX are valid rather than potentially garbage. That would avoid the whole version-negotiation nightmare, as nothing appears to be too picky about extra flags being defined. Five years later, it would also be good to have support inside libxkbcommon (which has a pretty decent test suite) and xcb-proto for the flags. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Sorry, on newer Linux you can set up hot key combination for that problem as graphical UI settings, older Linux versions will not be updated. May I close It? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Alex Efros from comment #184) > (In reply to Kovács Viktor from comment #181) > > Sorry, on newer Linux you can set up hot key combination for that problem as > > graphical UI settings, older Linux versions will not be updated. > > What exactly "newer Linux" is supposed to mean? I'm using yesterday's > updated Gentoo Linux with xorg-server-1.19.5 and Fluxbox - is it counts as > "newer"? Or by "newer Linux" you mean something like "modern KDE only"? > > (In reply to k0fe from comment #183) > > Sorry, but where do you see "good proposed solution"? Please, please show me > > that solution. > > There is a patch, working good enough for years without creating any new > (practical) issues. In comment #161 is was proposed to make it configurable > option to make everyone happy and let users choose between using compliant > protocol or working hotkeys. Where is the link to the patch? Where is the instruction like how to apply this patch? And how can this comment be used by an ordinary user (without knowledge of programming) to solve this problem? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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All current Ubuntu versions are affected and RHEL too. And nobody cares. 14 years of doing nothing. My congratulations! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to k0fe from comment #185) > (In reply to Alex Efros from comment #184) > > There is a patch, working good enough for years without creating any new > > (practical) issues. In comment #161 is was proposed to make it configurable > > option to make everyone happy and let users choose between using compliant > > protocol or working hotkeys. > > Where is the link to the patch? Where is the instruction like how to apply > this patch? And how can this comment be used by an ordinary user (without > knowledge of programming) to solve this problem? As an ordinary Gentoo Linux user, I: - download patch attached to this issue named "The same patch, but based on 1.19.1 (fixed)" into directory /etc/portage/patches/x11-base/xorg-server/ - run `emerge xorg-server` to reinstall Xorg with this patch applied - restart X to enjoy working hotkeys :) If users of other Linux distributions have issues with this - probably they just didn't use "newer Linux". -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Another user here voting for this bug to get patched OFFICIALLY from upstream. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Kovács Viktor from comment #181) > Sorry, on newer Linux you can set up hot key combination for that problem as > graphical UI settings, older Linux versions will not be updated. May I close > It? With all respect to you... Why do you want to close well described bug moreover that it has good proposed solution? This issue affects multiple users using multiple keyboard layouts and merging available patch probably won't cause any problems to the rest of people that does not use layout switchig. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Alex Efros from comment #184) > There is a patch, working good enough for years without creating any new > (practical) issues. In comment #161 is was proposed to make it configurable > option to make everyone happy and let users choose between using compliant > protocol or working hotkeys. (In reply to Aliaksei Urbanski from comment #188) > I'd like to thank you! And great thanks to kyak for the patch! > I confirm that it works for me on "older" Gentoo and xorg-server 1.9.5. I could to say, that this patch does not work exactly as expected. See, please, my comment #146 for explanation. So I think, this thread could not be closed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Kovács Viktor from comment #181) > Sorry, on newer Linux you can set up hot key combination for that problem as > graphical UI settings, older Linux versions will not be updated. What exactly "newer Linux" is supposed to mean? I'm using yesterday's updated Gentoo Linux with xorg-server-1.19.5 and Fluxbox - is it counts as "newer"? Or by "newer Linux" you mean something like "modern KDE only"? (In reply to k0fe from comment #183) > Sorry, but where do you see "good proposed solution"? Please, please show me > that solution. There is a patch, working good enough for years without creating any new (practical) issues. In comment #161 is was proposed to make it configurable option to make everyone happy and let users choose between using compliant protocol or working hotkeys. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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There seems to have been a proposed protocol extension (comment #159 etc.) Can anyone shed light, for the outside user, as to the current status of this proposal? Thanks. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Daniel Stone from comment #191) > Another, probably better, way to do it would be to define a new flag like > XkbSA_HasGroupFlags inside the XkbModAction flags field when group_flags and > group_XXX are valid rather than potentially garbage. That would avoid the > whole version-negotiation nightmare, as nothing appears to be too picky > about extra flags being defined. > > Five years later, it would also be good to have support inside libxkbcommon > (which has a pretty decent test suite) and xcb-proto for the flags. This comment lays out the best way forward for anyone interested to fix this bug. It shouldn't be too difficult, but personally I haven't worked on X11 for quite some time. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Kovács Viktor from comment #181) > Sorry, on newer Linux you can set up hot key combination for that problem as > graphical UI settings, older Linux versions will not be updated. May I close > It? Please do not close this bug. If you do not want to receive any further updates on it, you can unsubscribe by removing yourself from the Cc list. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Zebediah Figura from comment #189) > Can anyone shed light, for the outside user, as to the current status of > this proposal? Thanks. No news since. Apart from the formal proposal, there are some old patches for its implementation: https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2012-November/034427.html https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2012-November/034430.html https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2012-November/034429.html https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2012-November/034431.html https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2012-November/034428.html -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Did you changed your opinion after for years of not fixing this bug? Users still need this functionality (see https://community.ubuntu.com/t /keyboard-layout-switching-problems-and-poll/2876 and https://askubuntu.com/q/1009352/66509 as examples). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Alex Efros from comment #186) > (In reply to k0fe from comment #185) > > (In reply to Alex Efros from comment #184) > > > There is a patch, working good enough for years without creating any new > > > (practical) issues. In comment #161 is was proposed to make it > > > configurable > > > option to make everyone happy and let users choose between using compliant > > > protocol or working hotkeys. > > > > Where is the link to the patch? Where is the instruction like how to apply > > this patch? And how can this comment be used by an ordinary user (without > > knowledge of programming) to solve this problem? > > As an ordinary Gentoo Linux user, I: > - download patch attached to this issue named "The same patch, but based on > 1.19.1 (fixed)" into directory /etc/portage/patches/x11-base/xorg-server/ > - run `emerge xorg-server` to reinstall Xorg with this patch applied > - restart X to enjoy working hotkeys :) > > If users of other Linux distributions have issues with this - probably they > just didn't use "newer Linux". I'd like to thank you! And great thanks to kyak for the patch! I confirm that it works for me on "older" Gentoo and xorg-server 1.9.5. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Jan Pohanka from comment #182) > (In reply to Kovács Viktor from comment #181) > > Sorry, on newer Linux you can set up hot key combination for that problem as > > graphical UI settings, older Linux versions will not be updated. May I close > > It? > > With all respect to you... Why do you want to close well described bug > moreover that it has good proposed solution? This issue affects multiple > users using multiple keyboard layouts and merging available patch probably > won't cause any problems to the rest of people that does not use layout > switchig. Sorry, but where do you see "good proposed solution"? Please, please show me that solution. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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I use both Windows and Linux. BTW Many people don't have a choise of the OS on their jobs. I may provide a patch that would make it available to switch the behaviour in the runtime (I guess a line in xorg.conf would be fine). So we don't break the standard, people don't need to recompile xorg every time and patch developers don't need to adapt the patch. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Zebediah Figura from comment #179) > (In reply to Kovács Viktor from comment #178) > > Kubuntu grants Control+Shift+K combination. Is it acceptable? > > The question is not, largely speaking, about whether there is any shortcut > available. The question is largely specifically about shortcuts such as > Ctrl+Shift or Alt+Shift, which due to this bug will interfere with other > shortcuts and applications. Users such as myself are accustomed to using > these shortcuts, and they should be expected to work. Yes, I was thinking about it before you answered. I tested RCtrl+RShift combination, and it has no conflicts with hotkeys. There are possibility of XKeyboard-config, I used it before a keyboard layout: caps_switch_latch. It works when capslock pushed, but not released. I just thinking, I am in a black room. But it cannot do anything with hotkeys. I think, that problem is a miner-like. X-windows have messages keypress and release, but in my opinion, it should be adopt all windows manager. I will read the according X11 header files first, I promiss. After that I come back again, could we step to an easy way or not. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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The main keyword the KDE interface programming philosophy called Quick Time. Windows use message queue, and uses built togheter windows manager with the os hardly. Qt enables for programs override every reactions, "answered" the user actions. Under xcfe desktop manager main program override subprograms actions, for example, midnight commander is not closeable pressed f10 key, it override the main window. KDE close midnight commander pressing f10 key. Xkb layouts can not to do anything with this problem. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Who invite me this blog? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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I understand, that you must switch between Russian and English layout. The programs uses latin-based hotkeys, I did understand. In my opinion, in the future would be change, if the translator projects "translate" the hotkeys, for example to cyrillyc letters, too. (then won't need switches between layouts so frequently) We (Hungarians) will run into that problems on the future, when we will want to write old Hungarian texts. This is a runic-like right-to-left script. My question is, do you use Windows yet, or you uses already only Linux? You can choose switcher combination closely positioned with ctrl and shift. If you buy a new laptop, it could be happen, that the keyboard metrics not exactly same as on previous one. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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@Kovács Viktor, this report is not only about "original" problem, but all the problems affected by current implementation. I described other one with modifier for national characters, once you define such key you cannot use it as shortcut modifier. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Kovács Viktor from comment #178) > Kubuntu grants Control+Shift+K combination. Is it acceptable? The question is not, largely speaking, about whether there is any shortcut available. The question is largely specifically about shortcuts such as Ctrl+Shift or Alt+Shift, which due to this bug will interfere with other shortcuts and applications. Users such as myself are accustomed to using these shortcuts, and they should be expected to work. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Kovács Viktor from comment #165) > Why don't you change your layout switcher key-combination? You can set up > another key-combinations for russian and different key-combination for > english keyboard,too. That's KDE's problem, that allow choose frequently > used key combinations. This has nothing to do with KDE, but lack of functionality of xkb. There is universal key sequence to switch layout which is common to most operating systems, once this sequence is selected, functionality is lost. Comment#161 summaries the options to actually solve the issue, until resolved people should be able to land here to apply the patch which I use for 10 years. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Created attachment 134843 KDE keyboard layout switcher screenshot Sorry, I'm Hungarian. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Original problem was, that Shishakov uses ctrl+shift keyboard layout keycombination, and it not works, because it can be used in hotkeys. Why do not change It? It is much easier thing, I think. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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With all due respect, I hope this is not the usual response to X bugs. I do not think it is unreasonable to ask that shortcuts be made available from the set of control keys, since this is a very widespread feature across operating systems. I have used Kubuntu for the past several years, and made use of the alt-shift key combination to toggle between the English and Greek keyboard layouts. After the recent KDE change I find this bug affecting my workflow, interrupting various keyboard combinations involving the use of those modifiers. I think it is appropriate to call this a bug in xkb's behaviour. I wholeheartedly understand that X developers are more thinly stretched than most, and that this bug—despite its labeled importance—does not have as extreme a disruptive impact as many other bugs. I have no desire to complain of the amount of time this bug has spent open and demand that it be fixed. I would however request that this bug not be closed, as it is indeed a bug and the responsibility of xkb. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Vitaly Shishakov from comment #0) > I used to use Ctrl-Shift combination to switch keyboard layouts (ru <--> us) > > but in this case i cant use any of the Ctrl-Shift-* hotkeys in any software > i try. > > I noticed, that the keyboard layout becomes swithced as soon an both keys > are DOWN -- > pressing any other key is not treated as Ctrl-Shift- combination. > > For example -- in Windows i also use Ctrl-Shift to switch layouts, but > there, the layout > becomes switched only when both SHIFT and CTRL keys are UP, and no other key > was > pressed while they were down -- in that case the hole combination is treates > as > Ctrl-Shift- combination, and the layout is not changed. > > see also: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59303 > > > > I use the following lines in XF86Config: > > Section "InputDevice" > Driver "Keyboard" > Identifier "Keyboard[0]" > Option "Protocol" "Standard" > Option "XkbLayout" "us,ru" > Option "XkbModel" "pc104" > Option "XkbOptions" "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle" > Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" > Option "XkbVariant" ",winkeys" > EndSection Kubuntu grants Control+Shift+K combination. Is it acceptable? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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This bug is not exclusive to KDE. I use XFCE on a different machine as well, and encounter the bug there. Various people in this thread have reported it in other WMs. Is there a reason why the solution should not be, as the title says, that XKB kick its hotkeys on release rather than press? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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(In reply to Yan Pas from comment #176) > I use both Windows and Linux. BTW Many people don't have a choise of the OS > on their jobs. > > I may provide a patch that would make it available to switch the behaviour > in the runtime (I guess a line in xorg.conf would be fine). So we don't > break the standard, people don't need to recompile xorg every time and patch > developers don't need to adapt the patch. You should get developers' feedback about this approach first. If they are not willing to merge the patch that works via xorg.conf, you will only waste your time. >From the other hand side, you will probably waste your time anyway. Developers talk about the "standard", and explicitely suggest sending patches to standard instead of patching xorg (read previous comments). And when such patch for the standard gets attached to this bug report, what happens? Nothing. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Why don't you change your layout switcher key-combination? You can set up another key-combinations for russian and different key-combination for english keyboard,too. That's KDE's problem, that allow choose frequently used key combinations. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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High, Viktor! I'm using Ctrl+Shift for twelve years since Win XP. I use this combintaion on my win machines. So it's definetely not an option for me. Since I use Cyrillic layout I switch layouts frequently (people using Latin layouts are less affected). Imagine saving action shortcut "Ctrl+S" combintaion would be replaced with something like "Alt+R" in your favourite text editor. I'm also sure that no one will complain if the patch will be merged. And I do not understand why should we follow the standard if this standard makes living uncomfortable. BTW according to previous comments wayland implentations suffer from this bug too despite they do not depend on Xorg-server. Do we need separate patch for libxcb and libxcbcommon? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Me too very upset about this bug: there is patch for several yers - no one cares. I suggest compromise: add autotools|meson option to enable this feature. At least every distro would be able to decide whether they want to provide nonstandard behavior. I also see that this bug is assigned but nothing happens. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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After the next update of the package "xserver-xorg-input-evdev- hwe-16.04" (with dependencies) from the version "1: 2.10.2-1ubuntu1 ~ 16.04.1" to the version "1: 2.10.5-1ubuntu1 ~ 16.04.1 ", in the KDE shell, the language switch does not happen when the keys are released, but when pressed. Distributions on which this problem was repeated: neon-useredition-20171012-1018-amd64 kubuntu-16.04.3-desktop-amd64 kubuntu-17.04-desktop-amd64 Distributions in which there is no such problem: ubuntu-16.04.3-desktop-amd64 ubuntu-17.04-desktop-amd64 (but there is no such package) When setting the switch to Ctrl-Shift, you can not quickly select text with the "Ctrl-Shift-Arrows" keys. However, you do not want to have outdated xorg packages. Extremely uncomfortable, help! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812]
Created attachment 129860 The same patch, but based on 1.19.1 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
