Re: Deskbar Applet, NewStuffManager, 2.16, Installing New Plug-Ins, AutoUpdate, etc.

2006-08-01 Thread Jamie McCracken
Nigel Tao wrote: You mean running untrusted code from the Web? Nigel said it would be possible to secure it a bit using GPG keys. Maybe this kind of signing should be made a requirement. Well, should signing be necessary and/or sufficient, and who makes that decision?

Re: Deskbar Applet, NewStuffManager, 2.16, Installing New Plug-Ins, AutoUpdate, etc.

2006-08-01 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le mardi 01 août 2006, à 11:42, Nigel Tao a écrit : You mean running untrusted code from the Web? Nigel said it would be possible to secure it a bit using GPG keys. Maybe this kind of signing should be made a requirement. Well, should signing be necessary and/or sufficient, and

Re: Deskbar Applet, NewStuffManager, 2.16, Installing New Plug-Ins, AutoUpdate, etc.

2006-08-01 Thread James Henstridge
On 01/08/06, Jamie McCracken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cant python be sandboxed? not sure if it helps in this case or not as I bet you want the python code to have full access to the system. Not in the sense that javascript can be sandboxed. Some of the developers are looking at restricted

Re: icon naming spec and gnome-vfs

2006-08-01 Thread Pat Suwalski
David Zeuthen wrote: On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 18:06 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: I will however, disagree that we need to provide such explicit icons as to state what method a hard disk is connect to the computer through, or what type of data is contained on an optical disc, in a base GNOME

Re: [g-a-devel] GnomeClient replacement?

2006-08-01 Thread Jani Monoses
James Henstridge wrote: I think you'll agree that we want a11y enabled for all GTK applications, and the best way to do this is to make the initialisation happen in gtk_init(). The gtk-modules XSETTING makes this possible. The proposed method of getting things loaded is: 1.

Re: [g-a-devel] GnomeClient replacement?

2006-08-01 Thread Bill Haneman
It's probably libbonoboui that needs to add libgail-gnome as an additional module. I am a little uneasy about making this change so late, but if someone volunteers to help test, I'd be OK with it. Bill On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 15:34, Jani Monoses wrote: James Henstridge wrote: I think you'll

Re: icon naming spec and gnome-vfs

2006-08-01 Thread Jakub Steiner
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 10:31 -0400, Pat Suwalski wrote: David Zeuthen wrote: On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 18:06 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: I will however, disagree that we need to provide such explicit icons as to state what method a hard disk is connect to the computer through, or what type of

Re: icon naming spec and gnome-vfs

2006-08-01 Thread Matthias Clasen
On 8/1/06, Jakub Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always intended to draw the specific media icons, but I really hope to see infrastructure for getting the generic fallback in place first so that theming is actually a solution and not an excuse. But certainly thats not an excuse for ripping

Re: icon naming spec and gnome-vfs

2006-08-01 Thread Scott J. Harmon
Matthias Clasen wrote: On 8/1/06, Jakub Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always intended to draw the specific media icons, but I really hope to see infrastructure for getting the generic fallback in place first so that theming is actually a solution and not an excuse. But certainly

Re: icon naming spec and gnome-vfs

2006-08-01 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 12:37 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On 8/1/06, Jakub Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always intended to draw the specific media icons, but I really hope to see infrastructure for getting the generic fallback in place first so that theming is actually a solution

Re: icon naming spec and gnome-vfs

2006-08-01 Thread David Zeuthen
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 18:31 +0200, Jakub Steiner wrote: I perfectly see the advantage of having a set of unique device icons for different flash cards. It's undoubtedly easier to use if my desktop is populated by distinguishable device icons. But in my view it's much worse to have, say

Re: icon naming spec and gnome-vfs

2006-08-01 Thread Pat Suwalski
Jakub Steiner wrote: An image thumbnail will give you much more information than a text label on a tiny icon and that is likely to be the default case on the GNOME desktop. Unless, like me, you're always converting images that are large and you don't want to thumbnail, but you want to quickly

Re: Deskbar Applet, NewStuffManager, 2.16, Installing New Plug-Ins, AutoUpdate, etc.

2006-08-01 Thread Isak Savo
2006/8/1, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Le mardi 01 août 2006, à 11:42, Nigel Tao a écrit : You mean running untrusted code from the Web? Nigel said it would be possible to secure it a bit using GPG keys. Maybe this kind of signing should be made a requirement. Well, should

Re: icon naming spec and gnome-vfs

2006-08-01 Thread Pat Suwalski
Jakub Steiner wrote: I don't know how much time exactly went into gnome icon theme over the years, but I do feel like we failed to provide a good icon theming platform for distributions. Back then we had old Gnome 1.0 styled icons inconsistency. Then I tried to create an icon for every single

Re: icon naming spec and gnome-vfs (from the right account now)

2006-08-01 Thread Jakub Steiner
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 14:28 -0400, Pat Suwalski wrote: Jakub Steiner wrote: An image thumbnail will give you much more information than a text label on a tiny icon and that is likely to be the default case on the GNOME desktop. Unless, like me, you're always converting images that are

Re: icon naming spec and gnome-vfs

2006-08-01 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 16:45 -0400, Pat Suwalski wrote: In my opinion, yes, it has to come now, or it will never come. It is already a regression that it was there and is no longer there. I prefer the look of my 2.8 desktop with icons that were consistent enough to my 2.12 desktop where I've

Re: icon naming spec and gnome-vfs

2006-08-01 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 17:49 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 16:45 -0400, Pat Suwalski wrote: In my opinion, yes, it has to come now, or it will never come. It is already a regression that it was there and is no longer there. I prefer the look of my 2.8 desktop with icons

Handling big or scary migrations

2006-08-01 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Rodney Dawes Nobody has made it an excuse. The icons didn't disappear. They were symlinked to another icon. It's been that way for 8+ months. And not a single person has complained or filed a bug on it, until now. I would consider linking to the wrong icon to be a bug. However, it

Re: Deskbar Applet, NewStuffManager, 2.16, Installing New Plug-Ins, AutoUpdate, etc.

2006-08-01 Thread Nigel Tao
On 8/1/06, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would waiting for the 2.18 release cycle be an issue for desbkar? I don't think that there's any issues, but we'll discuss this on deskbar-applet-list. If we do punt to 2.18, will we just rebadge the latest 2.14 as 2.16.0? Leave d-a 2.14 as

Re: Deskbar Applet, NewStuffManager, 2.16, Installing New Plug-Ins, AutoUpdate, etc.

2006-08-01 Thread Corey Burger
On 7/31/06, Steve Frécinaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nigel Tao wrote: You mean running untrusted code from the Web? Nigel said it would be possible to secure it a bit using GPG keys. Maybe this kind of signing should be made a requirement. Well, should signing be necessary and/or

Re: icon naming spec and gnome-vfs

2006-08-01 Thread David Zeuthen
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 20:45 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: Ironically hal or gnome-vfs seem to insist that my Compact Flash and Memory Stick devices are all USB hard disks, both on FC5, and on my laptop running SLED 10. And, no, this isn't due to a theme with the wrong symlinks. It happens with

Re: Deskbar Applet, NewStuffManager, 2.16, Installing New Plug-Ins, AutoUpdate, etc.

2006-08-01 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 10:45 +1000, Nigel Tao wrote: On 8/2/06, Shaun McCance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With an automated listy-clicky thing, you don't get to see explicit files, and you have no way of checking against a checksum or a digital signature. Yeah, an example: suppose there's a

Re: Deskbar Applet, NewStuffManager, 2.16, Installing New Plug-Ins, AutoUpdate, etc.

2006-08-01 Thread James \Doc\ Livingston
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 20:36 +0200, Isak Savo wrote: As such, I don't really see why this thing would be impose any security issues that didn't exist earlier. Lots of applications already have a plug-in system, and to my knowledge, they also allow extra plugins to be installed in $HOME (i.e.