Nine Months in Six Months

2006-09-08 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 19:32 +0100, Don Scorgie wrote: Hi, On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 11:24 -0700, David Trowbridge wrote: What in particular isn't possible with the 6-month cycle? For one thing: the documentation gets squeezed. We (the doc team) have, basically, 3 month to document all the

Re: Nine Months in Six Months

2006-09-08 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Shaun McCance Here is my much-anticipated MASTER PLAN: Using my incredible mathematical genius, I have figured out how to fit an entire nine months of work into only six months. I don't believe that directly splitting the focus between new development and bug fixing, or

Re: getting on a longer release cycled

2006-09-08 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 13:56 -0400, Pat Suwalski wrote: Hubert Figuiere wrote: I would like to suggest at one point to try to break with the 6 month release schedule of Gnome to do a major release with a certain number of feature that would involve possible infrastructure changes in the

Re: getting on a longer release cycled

2006-09-08 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2006/9/8, Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 19:51 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote: Hubert Figuiere wrote: Hi, I would like to suggest at one point to try to break with the 6 month release schedule of Gnome to do a major release with a certain number of feature

Re: getting on a longer release cycled

2006-09-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 07 septembre 2006, à 19:32, Don Scorgie a écrit : Hi, On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 11:24 -0700, David Trowbridge wrote: What in particular isn't possible with the 6-month cycle? For one thing: the documentation gets squeezed. We (the doc team) have, basically, 3 month to document all

proposal: better ways to print documents

2006-09-08 Thread David Prieto
I'd like to suggest two ways to print multiple documents easily, since nowadays it involves opening them one by one which can become burdensome. Please tell me your opinions about these: A. we already can send stuff to a bluetooth device through nautilus-sendto. Wouldn't it be cool

Re: getting on a longer release cycled

2006-09-08 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Andrew, Quoting Andrew Cowie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We regularly have people showing up who are asking us questions about gtk 2.6 and using a version that is *FOUR* cycles old. We can't support that as we've long since moved on from there (shit, the people who wrote that code aren't even

Re: Nine Months in Six Months

2006-09-08 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
On Sex, 2006-09-08 at 01:00 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 19:32 +0100, Don Scorgie wrote: Hi, On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 11:24 -0700, David Trowbridge wrote: What in particular isn't possible with the 6-month cycle? For one thing: the documentation gets squeezed.

Planning Gnome Scan Inclusion

2006-09-08 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello all ! Since march, i'm designing and developping a Gnome Scan infrastructure. See http://home.gna.org/gnomescan/index and Google gnome scan search result in general. I've been sponsored by Google do work on this project this summer. Mentored by Vincent Untz. The project is far from

Re: Nine Months in Six Months

2006-09-08 Thread James Henstridge
On 08/09/06, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your master plan implies branching early and heavily committing to both branches for a long time. Reality check: we are still using this archaic software called C.V.S.! Branching with that software is incredibly complex.

Re: Nine Months in Six Months

2006-09-08 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On Friday 08 September 2006 08:57, James Henstridge wrote: The real issue with handling development in parallel branches is really complexity of merging.  This is an area where Subversion doesn't really buy you much over CVS -- you still need to manually keep track of what you merged to do a

Re: Planning Gnome Scan Inclusion

2006-09-08 Thread David Prieto
Do you want gnome scan for 2.18 ? I sure do! please keep up the hard work, this project got me really excited. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Planning Gnome Scan Inclusion

2006-09-08 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, I sure do! please keep up the hard work, this project got me really excited. Héhé :) I wrote a RoadMap in the Wiki. http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScanning#head-39b656e3f4fce8abe4bf0da2cee994cffa9b90b8 I'm currently packaging gnomescan for debian/ubuntu. Étienne. -- Verso l'Alto !

Re: Planning Gnome Scan Inclusion

2006-09-08 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, I am curious to know what the word flegita means. Searches using google and dictionaries in three languages didn't turn up anything which looked relevant. Good question. :) flegita is an esperanto word that mean cured. Étienne. -- Verso l'Alto !

Re: Nine Months in Six Months

2006-09-08 Thread James Henstridge
On 08/09/06, Hubert Figuiere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 08 September 2006 08:57, James Henstridge wrote: The real issue with handling development in parallel branches is really complexity of merging. This is an area where Subversion doesn't really buy you much over CVS -- you still

Re: Planning Gnome Scan Inclusion

2006-09-08 Thread Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D.
Where is the source??? -Joseph === On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 15:45 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote: Hello, I am curious to know what the word flegita means. Searches using google and dictionaries in three languages didn't turn

Re: Planning Gnome Scan Inclusion

2006-09-08 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, Where is the source??? I pointed the current projet homepage : http://home.gna.org/gnomescan/index . Follow the projet page link and you'll be lead to SVN. You can also use tarballs from http://home.gna.org/gnomescan/download . However, i released a 0.2.3 (including deutsch

Re: Planning Gnome Scan Inclusion

2006-09-08 Thread Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D.
Thanks... I will try it out this weekend. If all goes well, I will add it to GARNOME so others can play with it an provide feedback. -Joseph == On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 16:15 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote: Hello, Where is the source??? I pointed the

Re: Planning Gnome Scan Inclusion

2006-09-08 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi, Thanks... I will try it out this weekend. If all goes well, I will add it to GARNOME so others can play with it an provide feedback. Wow ! Nice ! Thank you ! :D Étienne. -- Verso l'Alto ! ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Re: getting on a longer release cycled

2006-09-08 Thread Torsten Schoenfeld
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 14:44 +1000, Andrew Cowie wrote: The people I work with on java-gnome won't be able to hack on GNOME 2.16 specific bindings until we have GNOME 2.16 desktops on our systems. My systems are otherwise production (in the sense that I use them to do business so I can't

Re: Planning Gnome Scan Inclusion

2006-09-08 Thread Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D.
You are welcome... -Joseph == On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 16:51 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote: Hi, Thanks... I will try it out this weekend. If all goes well, I will add it to GARNOME so others can play with it an provide feedback.

Re: The future of session management in GNOME

2006-09-08 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, * XSMP does a number of useful session-managey things (logout notification, logout cancellation, specifying apps that should be restarted right away if they crash, specifying commands to run at logout, etc) which we currently have no other

The Lower Desktop, Upper Desktops

2006-09-08 Thread Maxim Udushlivy
*The Lower Desktop, Upper Desktops* (a letter to the Gnome community, in a poor English) It was about two years while I was more or less in touch with Gnome, and I must say that no other large free software project delivers so much confusion to an outsider. And since Gnome has

Re: getting on a longer release cycled

2006-09-08 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 12:59 -0400, Hubert Figuiere wrote: I would like to suggest at one point to try to break with the 6 month release schedule of Gnome to do a major release with a certain number of feature that would involve possible infrastructure changes in the platform. Not sure

Re: Nine Months in Six Months

2006-09-08 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 11:18 +0100, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: On Sex, 2006-09-08 at 01:00 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 19:32 +0100, Don Scorgie wrote: Hi, On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 11:24 -0700, David Trowbridge wrote: What in particular isn't possible with

Re: Nine Months in Six Months

2006-09-08 Thread Steve Frécinaux
James Henstridge wrote: On 08/09/06, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your master plan implies branching early and heavily committing to both branches for a long time. Reality check: we are still using this archaic software called C.V.S.! Branching with that software is

Re: getting on a longer release cycled

2006-09-08 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 10:17 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 13:56 -0400, Pat Suwalski wrote: Hubert Figuiere wrote: I would like to suggest at one point to try to break with the 6 month release schedule of Gnome to do a major release with a certain number of

Re: Nine Months in Six Months

2006-09-08 Thread Don Scorgie
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 01:00 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: snip Here is my much-anticipated MASTER PLAN: Using my incredible mathematical genius, I have figured out how to fit an entire nine months of work into only six months. I knew there was a reason I got a degree in mathematics. (Or

Re: Nine Months in Six Months

2006-09-08 Thread BJörn Lindqvist
On 9/8/06, Don Scorgie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doc people do not have enough time. Its as simple as that. As shaunm pointed out, this release we got 4 weeks to update the documentation. This included 3 new modules needing docs, as well as lots of updates to lots of other docs. The doc team

Re: Nine Months in Six Months

2006-09-08 Thread Adam Schreiber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 BJörn Lindqvist wrote: To me, that makes sense. An untranslated string is just as annoying as a frequently segfaulting program. So lets treat the problems the same. Code that changes behaviour shouldn't be committed unless the documentation is

Re: Nine Months in Six Months

2006-09-08 Thread Nickolay V. Shmyrev
В Сбт, 09/09/2006 в 04:55 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist пишет: On 9/8/06, Don Scorgie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doc people do not have enough time. Its as simple as that. As shaunm pointed out, this release we got 4 weeks to update the documentation. This included 3 new modules needing docs, as