Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little minus on integration (admittedly a pet peeve of mine): This is yet another app that does its own homegrown preference for a hotkey. This should nowadays be done by installing an xml file for the keybinding

Re: maintainer scripts

2008-07-28 Thread Martyn Russell
daniel g. siegel wrote: another quick question: maintainer.py seems to pick up all bug fixes, but what about features, or other enhancements, which are no bugs? how do i get those into the NEWS file? This is something I really have been trying to figure out actually. The only 2 ways about it I

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-28 Thread John Stowers
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 01:05 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Le lundi 28 juillet 2008, à 00:32 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : Homepage: http://www.conduit-project.org svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/conduit/ Proposal on d-d-l:

Re: Proposed external dep: PolicyKit

2008-07-28 Thread Richard Hughes
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 22:34 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote: As a result, I have hal 0.5.11 installed which appears to have--undocumentedly--suddenly required PackageKit PackageKit != PolicyKit. Richard. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Re: Proposed module: empathy

2008-07-28 Thread Xavier Claessens
Le lundi 28 juillet 2008 à 00:31 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : Homepage: http://live.gnome.org/Empathy svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/empathy/ You can also use git://git.collabora.co.uk/git/empathy.git Summary so far: === + (would be nice to get an overview of

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Vincent Untz wrote: Summary so far: === + not hosted in the GNOME infrastructure, but willing to migrate + many releases since the proposal + some discussion about using e-d-s instead of sqlite. It seems the maintainers prefer to stay with sqlite + some people like

Re: Proposed external dependency: libcanberra

2008-07-28 Thread Xavier Claessens
Le lundi 28 juillet 2008 à 00:36 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : Short description: == libcanberra is a sound event library implementing the XDG sound theming/naming specs. I don't know if it's stable and solid but for what I've seen of the API and the idea behind it's

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 10:13 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little minus on integration (admittedly a pet peeve of mine): This is yet another app that does its own homegrown preference for a hotkey. This should

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-28 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 02:16 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:57 AM, Bastien Nocera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not this time, IMO. Let's wait for a better UI. Please keep in mind that the synchronization is also available as a service so you shouldn't be forced to use

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Bastien Nocera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 10:13 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little minus on integration (admittedly a pet peeve of mine): This is yet another

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little minus on integration (admittedly a pet peeve of mine): This is yet another app that does its own homegrown preference for a hotkey. This should nowadays be done by installing an xml file for the keybinding

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Frederic Peters
Vincent Untz wrote: Project Hamster is a nifty time tracking applet for the Gnome desktop. It helps to keep track on how much time has been spent during the day on set up activities. It is nifty, but I don't think it is useful for most people; and I don't want the GNOME desktop to become a

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-28 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2008/7/28 Bastien Nocera [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 02:16 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:57 AM, Bastien Nocera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not this time, IMO. Let's wait for a better UI. Please keep in mind that the synchronization is also available as a

Re: Proposed external dependency: libcanberra

2008-07-28 Thread Xavier Claessens
Le lundi 28 juillet 2008 à 00:36 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : Homepage: ? Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-July/msg00075.html License: LGPLv2 or later (I believe) Short description: == libcanberra is a sound event library

Re: Proposed external dependency: libcanberra

2008-07-28 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 28.07.08 15:50, Xavier Claessens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Le lundi 28 juillet 2008 à 00:36 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : Homepage: ? Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-July/msg00075.html License: LGPLv2 or later (I believe) Short

Re: Proposed external dependency: libcanberra

2008-07-28 Thread Xavier Claessens
Le lundi 28 juillet 2008 à 16:08 +0200, Lennart Poettering a écrit : I have a question: Is libcanberra-gtk the definitive library or is there plans to move the code directly into GTK+? Or is there good reason to have it outside GTK+? The API could be gtk_widget_play_sound(GtkWidget

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Glenn J. Mason
So -1 for me, as I don't see any advantage in Project Hamster being adopted as an official module of the GNOME desktop. Being a module doesn't mean it's automatically shipped with the desktop by default, does it? Don't the distros just pick what they want?

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
2008/7/28 Glenn J. Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So -1 for me, as I don't see any advantage in Project Hamster being adopted as an official module of the GNOME desktop. Being a module doesn't mean it's automatically shipped with the desktop by default, does it? Don't the distros just pick what

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Dave Neary
Glenn J. Mason wrote: So -1 for me, as I don't see any advantage in Project Hamster being adopted as an official module of the GNOME desktop. Being a module doesn't mean it's automatically shipped with the desktop by default, does it? Don't the distros just pick what they want?

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-28 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 00:32 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Homepage: http://www.conduit-project.org svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/conduit/ Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-March/msg00320.html License: ??? (GPLv2 or later?) Short

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Glenn J. Mason
In general, I'd hate for this app is mostly useless to be a heavily motivating reason for rejection, also... most of the apps we ship are mostly useless to most of our users. This one is polished, cute and has a sense of humour. I agree with this -- I don't play half the games, but it's nice

Re: Proposed external dependency: clutter

2008-07-28 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 00:33 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Homepage: http://clutter-project.org/ Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-April/msg00184.html License: LGPLv2 or later (I believe) Short description: == Clutter is an open source

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-28 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 11:16 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 00:32 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Homepage: http://www.conduit-project.org svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/conduit/ Proposal on d-d-l:

Re: Proposed external dependency: clutter

2008-07-28 Thread Jonathon Jongsma
Colin Walters wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 00:33 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Homepage: http://clutter-project.org/ Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-April/msg00184.html License: LGPLv2 or later (I believe) Short description: == Clutter

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Frederic Peters
Dave Neary wrote: In general, I'd hate for this app is mostly useless to be a heavily Well, I don't think it is useful for most people is not quite the same. This is just that nobody I know is doing time tracking, so I consider it a niche application. motivating reason for rejection,

Re: Proposed module: empathy

2008-07-28 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 12:08 +0200, Xavier Claessens wrote: New features: - Audio/Video call is now enabled by default. The UI improved a bit but there is still lts of work needed to get it right. However audio/video works with SIP (video is not compatible with ekiga for codec reasons)

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Frederic Peters wrote: Dave Neary wrote: In general, I'd hate for this app is mostly useless to be a heavily Well, I don't think it is useful for most people is not quite the same. This is just that nobody I know is doing time tracking, so I consider it a niche application. /me does

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Luis Villa
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: motivating reason for rejection, also... most of the apps we ship are mostly useless to most of our users. Do you think so ? It may be I almost perfectly matched GNOME apps till today :) Looking in Utilities: I rarely use

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Mathias Hasselmann
Am Montag, den 28.07.2008, 18:36 +0200 schrieb Dave Neary: Hi, Frederic Peters wrote: Dave Neary wrote: In general, I'd hate for this app is mostly useless to be a heavily Well, I don't think it is useful for most people is not quite the same. This is just that nobody I know is

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Matteo Settenvini
As far as functionality don't overlap, I don't see much of a problem in including more applications in GNOME. They just help it get promoted further. If I take a glance at my menu under a standard Ubuntu installation and I count the number of entries of a vanilla GNOME installation, they're not

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-28 Thread John Stowers
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 11:16 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 00:32 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Homepage: http://www.conduit-project.org svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/conduit/ Proposal on d-d-l:

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-28 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:33 PM, John Stowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If another app calls into conduit using dbus, it will automatically start, without the gui. If the user then starts Conduit from the accessories menu, the Gui will be launched atop the already running service. Basically

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-28 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 09:33 +1200, John Stowers wrote: If another app calls into conduit using dbus, it will automatically start, without the gui. If the user then starts Conduit from the accessories menu, the Gui will be launched atop the already running service. Ok; can you summarize the

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-28 Thread John Stowers
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 17:47 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 09:33 +1200, John Stowers wrote: If another app calls into conduit using dbus, it will automatically start, without the gui. If the user then starts Conduit from the accessories menu, the Gui will be launched

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-28 Thread John Stowers
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 17:47 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 09:33 +1200, John Stowers wrote: If another app calls into conduit using dbus, it will automatically start, without the gui. If the user then starts Conduit from the accessories menu, the Gui will be launched

Re: Freedesktop sound theme support in gnome-control-center trunk

2008-07-28 Thread Calum Benson
On 28 Jul 2008, at 00:54, Bastien Nocera wrote: - Play system beep sound (this enables the audible bell in X) Ideas for better strings welcome. OS X calls this the alert sound-- perhaps we could do the same? (Or desktop alert, or system alert-- but having to put system in front of a

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-28 Thread John Carr
In future there may be additional reasons to have conduit running all the time, such as 'always up to date' sync (only our gconf sync uses this ATM, IIRC). The Tomboy and Folder plugins support Always Up To Date, and in a couple of days the windows mobile stuff will too. Evolution could,