Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Frederic Peters
Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: Adoption GNOME-ness, community: We have pride in our incredible translation teams; it would be really nice if Rygel had the infrastructure in place to be translated. Is this planned? Cheers, Frederic ___

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 01:51:50AM +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) zee...@gmail.com wrote: What is it? I hate unneeded redundancy so I'll just ask you to read the home page: http://live.gnome.org/Rygel pbor pointed out on

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
 From reading description, it seems to me that Rygel would be better suited as system service. Just like for example mt-daapd (which seem to have the same purpose as Rygel but for DAAP). How does it fit GNOME? Absolutely correct point! Folks, when did you decided that GNOME is for PCs only

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
Hi, On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Sergey Udaltsov sergey.udalt...@gmail.com wrote:  From reading description, it seems to me that Rygel would be better suited as system service. Just like for example mt-daapd (which seem to have the same purpose as Rygel but for DAAP). How does it fit

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
Hi Frederic! On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org wrote: Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: Adoption GNOME-ness, community: We have pride in our incredible translation teams; it would be really nice if Rygel had the infrastructure in place to be translated. Is

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Sonntag, den 21.02.2010, 18:12 +0200 schrieb Zeeshan Ali: I agree but I really suck at UIs You could ask for a review on the usability mailing list. andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
Hi, On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote:   It most certainly is and if it starts to become very likely that my proposal will be approved, I'll put this in my high-priority todo list. Heh, the logic should be reversed :-) It can't be approved (or likely to be

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 22 février 2010, à 16:23 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) a écrit : On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Where will the strings appear? If it's just error strings in a log file, then they don't have to be translated, for example. Yeah something like

Re: New propossed GnomeGoal: Modernize your autotools configuration

2010-02-22 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 26 janvier 2010 à 03:26 +0100, Javier Jardón a écrit : You can see more tips and links to the documentation in the GnomeGoal page: [3], for example: [3] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/ModernAutotools I read there: Try to avoid the use of AM_MAINTAINER_MODE. I am very

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
  Just because others do it in a particular way, doesn't make it right. Although Rygel can be run as a system-wide service, the main target use-case is that of providing services per-user[1] so for example each user can choose to share his media on the network rather than every user's media.

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
Hi, On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Sergey Udaltsov sergey.udalt...@gmail.com wrote:   Just because others do it in a particular way, doesn't make it right. Although Rygel can be run as a system-wide service, the main target use-case is that of providing services per-user[1] so for example

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 22.02.10 09:13, Tomasz Torcz (to...@pipebreaker.pl) wrote: I hate unneeded redundancy so I'll just ask you to read the home page: http://live.gnome.org/Rygel pbor pointed out on IRC that I didn't really have a nice description on the homepage so I corrected that. Please

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 22.02.10 12:08, Sergey Udaltsov (sergey.udalt...@gmail.com) wrote:  From reading description, it seems to me that Rygel would be better suited as system service. Just like for example mt-daapd (which seem to have the same purpose as Rygel but for DAAP). How does it fit GNOME?

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
Sorry for being unclear. Sure I know the difference between UPnP and CIFS. I am just saying that approach (I incorrectly called it use case) single system-level daemon + multiple user-controlled user-specific resources looks architecturally better than multiple user-level daemons. Sergey PS My

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 22.02.10 14:29, Sergey Udaltsov (sergey.udalt...@gmail.com) wrote:   Just because others do it in a particular way, doesn't make it right. Although Rygel can be run as a system-wide service, the main target use-case is that of providing services per-user[1] so for example each

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Ross Burton
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 14:29 +, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: Just because others do it in a particular way, doesn't make it right. Although Rygel can be run as a system-wide service, the main target use-case is that of providing services per-user[1] so for example each user can choose to

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 22.02.10 15:27, Sergey Udaltsov (sergey.udalt...@gmail.com) wrote:  That is because you seem to be keen on admin intervention while I am keen on each user to be as free (from admin) as possible. :) I do not really care about admin intervention, honestly. I just prefer to have a

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 21.02.10 14:50, Bastien Nocera (had...@hadess.net) wrote: - The preferences UI is pretty horrible Should we really keep the UI at all? The options offered therein appear very esoteric to me, and a trivial addition to gnome-file-share-properties that would just introduce one simple

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
Hi, On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Lennart Poettering mzta...@0pointer.de wrote: On Sun, 21.02.10 14:50, Bastien Nocera (had...@hadess.net) wrote: - The preferences UI is pretty horrible Should we really keep the UI at all? The options offered therein appear very esoteric to me, and a

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Javier Jardón
2010/2/22 Lennart Poettering mzta...@0pointer.de: Well, we already run apache as part of the user session from gnome-user-share. GNOME is certainly focussed on the desktop, or similar user interfaces. As such it should provide services for building user interfaces, not server machines. A

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 22.02.10 19:05, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) (zee...@gmail.com) wrote: Should we really keep the UI at all? The options offered therein appear very esoteric to me, and a trivial addition to gnome-file-share-properties that would just introduce one simple checkbox Share my Music (and

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
Hi, 2010/2/22 Javier Jardón jjar...@gnome.org: 2010/2/22 Lennart Poettering mzta...@0pointer.de: Well, we already run apache as part of the user session from gnome-user-share. GNOME is certainly focussed on the desktop, or similar user interfaces. As such it should provide services for

Re: Module Proposal: Rygel

2010-02-22 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 22 février 2010 à 17:21 +0100, Lennart Poettering a écrit : I do not really care about admin intervention, honestly. I just prefer to have a single server process on my system, regardless of the number of users. That sounds like a pretty weak argument, of the Unix nostalgia