Re: Feature Proposal: finding and rediscovering shared links

2012-04-21 Thread Allan Day
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com wrote: ... So a possible view for this feature can be done in Web: Links received can then be automatically put in the queue of Web. And once visited can be taken out of the queue. Another possible view would be a dialog for

Re: Feature Proposal: finding and rediscovering shared links

2012-04-21 Thread Seif Lotfy
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com wrote: ... So a possible view for this feature can be done in Web: Links received can then be automatically put in the queue of Web. And once visited can be taken

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Seif Lotfy
I would like to quote Allan Day (from another public mail thread): --- I realise that you're frustrated by the lack of Zeitgeist adoption in GNOME, Seif. As I explained privately, the best way for you to pursue this is to talk to maintainers who might need it for search results. The decision to

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
I've talked to several of my coworkers, and they just think Zeitgeist is the right technology for anything they're trying to do. A number of people thought the time-based approach wasn't neat enough. They brought up the recent flames over the Recently Used selection by default in the

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 12:59 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: We have a design and a plan for finding and reminding, and Zeitgeist doesn't seem like the right technology to implement that plan. Who's we? Where is this plan? And why isn't it going through the feature proposal process? -- Shaun

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 12:59 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: We have a design and a plan for finding and reminding, and Zeitgeist doesn't seem like the right technology to implement that plan. Who's we? We, the GNOME

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 13:46 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 12:59 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: We have a design and a plan for finding and reminding, and Zeitgeist doesn't seem like the right

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Frederic Peters
Shaun McCance wrote: Your previous email seems to indicate that the features for 3.6 are already a foregone conclusion, and that Zeitgeist doesn't fit into that. But that just can't be, because WE the GNOME community decide what's in the next version right here on d-d-l during the proposal

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Luis Medinas
Hi, thanks Shaun for your reply, unfortunatly looks like who decides everything for GNOME Project are the Design team or the RedHat employees and not the community. This makes me belive that the community no longer has the power to decide anything that aren't the way that the designers planned,

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Allan Day
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 13:46 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 12:59 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: We have a design and a plan

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Seif Lotfy
OK seems like i sent the mail to only Jasper (damn-reply to all) Again I repeat. I am not talking about features. Web is using an SQLite DB to store its HISTORY. This is code that they need to maintain themselves. Are the Web developers allowed and blessed to use Zeitgeist to store that history.

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Seif Lotfy
Hey Luis. Very good question. Zeitgeist and Tracker are compeletely different. Tracker is a metadata storage. It is used to store tags and information about files and other data on your computer. Zeitgeist is a log. It is a very intelligent and responsive log. We can not do what tracker providers.

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 13:46 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 12:59 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: We have a design and a plan for finding and reminding, and Zeitgeist doesn't seem like the right

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not saying that the feature proposal process is perfectly clear though. ;) It's a little rough, because we are only talking about features; we don't really get to address new technologies or libraries that we might

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Luis Medinas lmedi...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, thanks Shaun for your reply, unfortunatly looks like who decides everything for GNOME Project are the Design team or the RedHat employees and not the community. Please, can we not finger specific companies when

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Luis Medinas
2012/4/21 Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Luis Medinas lmedi...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, thanks Shaun for your reply, unfortunatly looks like who decides everything for GNOME Project are the Design team or the RedHat employees and not the community.

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Luis Medinas lmedi...@gnome.org wrote: 2012/4/21 Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Luis Medinas lmedi...@gnome.orgwrote: Hi, thanks Shaun for your reply, unfortunatly looks like who decides everything for GNOME

3.6 Feature: Initial setup

2012-04-21 Thread Matthias Clasen
We haven't really gotten off the ground with 3.6 feature proposals yet, so I'll make a start by announcing something that I hope to complete for 3.6: A nice initial setup experience. I have created a feature page describing this here: http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointFive/Features/InitialSetup

Re: 3.6 Feature: Initial setup

2012-04-21 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 21 April 2012 21:47, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote: We haven't really gotten off the ground with 3.6 feature proposals yet, so I'll make a start by announcing something that I hope to complete for 3.6: A nice initial setup experience. I have created a feature page

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:48:59AM -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: For instance, let's say Xan who has indicated some interest to use Zeitgist in Web wanted to use it but not add any new features but instead uses Zg to store bookmarks then really does this process help that? Does he even need

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:48:59AM -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: For instance, let's say Xan who has indicated some interest to use Zeitgist in Web wanted to use it but not add any new features but instead uses Zg to