Hi,
I'm currently migrating git.gnome.org to a new machine, there will be a
little downtime tomorrow 23th April from 11:00 - 12:30 GMT+2.
The service involved will be shutdown to prevent any data loss during the
move. As always I'll make sure to follow-up this e-mail to confirm that the
move
Hi all,
This is something that me, Jon and Jakub have been thinking about for
some time, and is now at the stage where we can start to think about
implementation. I'm proposing it as a feature for 3.10 [1].
The main element of the design is to combine the sound, network,
bluetooth, power and
2013/4/22 Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
This is something that me, Jon and Jakub have been thinking about for
some time, and is now at the stage where we can start to think about
implementation. I'm proposing it as a feature for 3.10 [1].
It looks like all the pictures from the
On Mon, 2013-04-22 at 15:50 +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote:
2013/4/22 Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com:
snip
However, while switching wi-fi networks will require an extra step, I
actually think that the the experience will be better with the new
design. The current network menu contains a lot of
Hey Allan,
first of all thanks a lot for taking the time to look into these issues
2013/4/22 Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
This is something that me, Jon and Jakub have been thinking about for
some time, and is now at the stage where we can start to think about
implementation. I'm
On Mon, 2013-04-22 at 14:36 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
snip
However, while switching wi-fi networks will require an extra step, I
actually think that the the experience will be better with the new
design.
I would make it clear that Wi-Fi networks that connect automatically
(known networks)
2013/4/22 Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net:
On Mon, 2013-04-22 at 15:50 +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote:
2013/4/22 Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com:
snip
However, while switching wi-fi networks will require an extra step, I
actually think that the the experience will be better with the new
On Mon, 2013-04-22 at 16:01 +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote:
2013/4/22 Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net:
snip
I also think that we'll need to have more applications, and desktop
daemons making use of GNetworkMonitor to check whether they have access
to the Internet before trying to access
On Mon, 2013-04-22 at 14:36 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
Hi all,
This is something that me, Jon and Jakub have been thinking about for
some time, and is now at the stage where we can start to think about
implementation. I'm proposing it as a feature for 3.10 [1].
The main element of the design
I'm concerned about the automatically opening dialog thing because I'm
not sure we can tell when something automatically requests network or
requests network on account of the user.
For instance, is an AJAX request to a website a user request or not? We
don't know. It could be clicking a button
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote:
Hey Allan,
first of all thanks a lot for taking the time to look into these issues
2013/4/22 Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
This is something that me, Jon and Jakub have been thinking about for
some time,
On Mon, 2013-04-22 at 11:18 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
I'm concerned about the automatically opening dialog thing because
I'm not sure we can tell when something automatically requests network
or requests network on account of the user.
For instance, is an AJAX request to a website a
Hi Alberto,
Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote:
The main element of the design is to combine the sound, network,
bluetooth, power and user menus into a single menu. This will enable
us to resolve a number of UX issues we've encountered with the
existing design (badness on touch, difficulties
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:
On Mon, 2013-04-22 at 11:18 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
I'm concerned about the automatically opening dialog thing because
I'm not sure we can tell when something automatically requests network
or requests
Part two of my reply. :)
Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote:
...
More details are outlined on the wiki [2]. If you do look at the
designs, please pay particular attention to the example scenarios -
these give a clearer idea of what the menu will actually look like.
The designs aren't
Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote:
Otherwise, the UX of the giant dialog looks good to me, and I'm
already starting to implement it. (But where's the avatar?)
Avatar?
Excellent. Is there a bug to track it?
Not yet. It's in a local branch on my system, as it's nowhere near
On Mon, 2013-04-22 at 14:36 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
The main element of the design is to combine the sound, network,
bluetooth, power and user menus into a single menu.
The update proposal [1] lists the following items as problems, but it
doesn't say *why* they are problems. I'll comment:
*
2013/4/22 Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com:
Hi Alberto,
Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote:
The main element of the design is to combine the sound, network,
bluetooth, power and user menus into a single menu. This will enable
us to resolve a number of UX issues we've encountered with the
Federico Mena Quintero feder...@gnome.org wrote:
On Mon, 2013-04-22 at 14:36 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
The main element of the design is to combine the sound, network,
bluetooth, power and user menus into a single menu.
The update proposal [1] lists the following items as problems, but it
On 22 April 2013 19:57, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
Federico Mena Quintero feder...@gnome.org wrote:
On Mon, 2013-04-22 at 14:36 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
But on non-touch screens, some people like my mom (whose eyesight is not
so great these days) could also benefit from bigger
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
But on non-touch screens, some people like my mom (whose eyesight is not
so great these days) could also benefit from bigger icons, or at least
*more contrasty* icons.
Dude, they couldn't have any more contrast.
2013/4/22 Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com
Hi all,
This is something that me, Jon and Jakub have been thinking about for
some time, and is now at the stage where we can start to think about
implementation. I'm proposing it as a feature for 3.10 [1].
The main element of the design is to
Hi Allen, I appreciate the opportunity to give feeedback on this. Thank
you.
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
It should be said that, as with any design, there are tradeoffs here.
There are lots of advantages to this approach (see the design page),
but
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
Part two of my reply. :)
Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote:
...
More details are outlined on the wiki [2]. If you do look at the
designs, please pay particular attention to the example scenarios -
these give a
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:
This is problematic is for those of us who use VPN
The mockup[0] linked from the proposal shows VPN(s) directly in the
menu when a VPN has been set up. Non-issue?
[0]
Hey Giovanni!
Giovanni Campagna scampa.giova...@gmail.com wrote:
As one of the implementors of the current status icons, and current
developer of gnome-shell, I can tell it's a small can of worms, but that's
not what this is about.
Rather, what I'd like to point out is that, in my opinion,
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Florian Müllner fmuell...@gnome.orgwrote:
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me
wrote:
This is problematic is for those of us who use VPN
The mockup[0] linked from the proposal shows VPN(s) directly in the
menu when a VPN
Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:
Thanks, I must have missed it. I did peruse it and it's still an extra
click and misses the convenience of going to the network menu and hitting
vpn on. If you're doing a lot of it I can see it getting a little
irritating.
Yep, that's a downside
Giovanni
I second your message. There are a few things in Gnome3.8 that need to be
standard and not tweaked.
a) User should be able to reset Frequent, or at least purge entries therein. I
do it by deleting the users .hidden files. But that is not the way.
b) In testing Gnome3.8, I ignore
On Mon, 22.04.13 15:58, Bastien Nocera (had...@hadess.net) wrote:
On Mon, 2013-04-22 at 15:50 +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote:
2013/4/22 Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com:
snip
However, while switching wi-fi networks will require an extra step, I
actually think that the the experience will
On Mon, 22.04.13 14:36, Allan Day (allanp...@gmail.com) wrote:
Hi all,
This is something that me, Jon and Jakub have been thinking about for
some time, and is now at the stage where we can start to think about
implementation. I'm proposing it as a feature for 3.10 [1].
The main element
Lennart Poettering mzta...@0pointer.de wrote:
This all looks so ... crowded in the wireframes. So very very
crowded. That can't be good?
First of all, did you look at the example scenarios?
On my current machine, the user menu has 6 items, with the avatar,
user name and chat status on top.
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Giovanni Campagna
scampa.giova...@gmail.com wrote:
Rather, what I'd like to point out is that, in my opinion, this needs more
thinking through before going straight to shipping.
I mean, I trust the design team and I value your experience in the field,
but
Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote:
Rather, what I'd like to point out is that, in my opinion, this needs more
thinking through before going straight to shipping.
I mean, I trust the design team and I value your experience in the field,
but this is another radical change, and it's
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Matthias Clasen
matthias.cla...@gmail.comwrote:
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Giovanni Campagna
scampa.giova...@gmail.com wrote:
Rather, what I'd like to point out is that, in my opinion, this needs
more
thinking through before going straight to
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