Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Je ven, 2019-05-03 je 14:45 +0200, Bastien Nocera skribis: > > Can this assertion be backed up by anything substantive? This keeps > > being said, and I'm willing to believe it, but no actual arguments > > are > > being made as to _why_ this is. > > > > Specifically, this question needs an

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Je ven, 2019-05-03 je 12:09 +0200, Bastien Nocera skribis: > - Why? > > For the same reasons we'd want to change master/slave references. > Though it usually isn't paired up with "slave" (excluding the > "gitslave" addon), it still has strong connotations of subjugation, and > some ties with the

Re: Good read from a new GNOME user

2019-05-02 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Having written the summary, I'll make a slight effort to give some input on the points. I hope that, like the summary, they are insightful. I'm removing the points on which I have no strong/informed opinion. Je ĵaŭ, 2019-05-02 je 11:01 +0200, Carmen Bianca Bakker skribis: > 1. The desktop d

Re: Good read from a new GNOME user

2019-05-02 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Hi Britt, Thanks for posting this to the mailing list. I'll summarise the raised points quickly here for everyone's convenience: 1. The desktop does nothing. There is no functionality other than on the top bar. Specifically: There is no dash/dock. 2. The status bar does very little.

Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-05-01 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Je ĵaŭ, 2019-05-02 je 01:10 +1000, Daniel Playfair Cal skribis: > As English speakers, we choose how our language evolves. It is a choice to > keep using a word just as it is a choice to swap it for a new one. It is not > censorship to make a choice one way or the other. Nobody in this thread

Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-05-01 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Je mer, 2019-05-01 je 23:31 +1000, Michael Gratton skribis: > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 15:19, Carmen Bianca Bakker > > > > I did however point out that Python has replaced uses of the term > > > "master", and we should do the same. > > > > We should.

Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-05-01 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Je mer, 2019-05-01 je 22:38 +1000, Michael Gratton skribis: > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 14:30, Carmen Bianca Bakker > wrote: > > I think the problem is that, when prompted why we should make this > > change, you said that we need only look at Python to see why this > > ch

Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-05-01 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Hi Michael, Je mer, 2019-05-01 je 21:52 +1000, Michael Gratton skribis: > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 12:48, Richard Hughes > wrote: > > On Wed, 1 May 2019 at 12:38, Michael Gratton wrote: > > > They have also been successful in getting other projects to use more > > > inclusive language. For

Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-04-26 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Hi Michael, Je ven, 2019-04-26 je 09:24 +1000, Michael Gratton skribis: > On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 09:02, Carmen Bianca Bakker > wrote: > > Defaults and conventions matter. One reason I like GNOME so much is > > because the defaults are amazing. And while "master" is

Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-04-25 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Je ĵaŭ, 2019-04-25 je 09:53 -0400, Pat Suwalski skribis: > On 2019-04-25 6:43 a.m., Bastien Nocera wrote: > > It's non-gender neutral, which was mentioned earlier in the thread. > > > > See the master/maiden section of: > >

Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-04-25 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Hi Michael, Je ĵaŭ, 2019-04-25 je 11:46 +1000, Michael Gratton skribis: > Hi all, > > I'd like to formally propose as a GNOME Goal that GNOME modules replace > references to the terms "master" and "slave". I principally agree with this, if only because it makes the world a slightly better