Re: [g-a-devel] GnomeClient replacement?

2006-11-30 Thread Jani Monoses
James Henstridge wrote: > On 26/07/06, Fernando Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 7/26/06, James Henstridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> 1. gnome-settings-daemon is modified to set the gtk-modules XSETTING, >>> based on the existing gconf key. If accessibility is enabled, it sets >>> it t

Re: [g-a-devel] GnomeClient replacement?

2006-08-01 Thread Bill Haneman
It's probably libbonoboui that needs to add libgail-gnome as an additional module. I am a little uneasy about making this change so late, but if someone volunteers to help test, I'd be OK with it. Bill On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 15:34, Jani Monoses wrote: > James Henstridge wrote: > > I think you'll

Re: [g-a-devel] GnomeClient replacement?

2006-08-01 Thread Jani Monoses
James Henstridge wrote: > I think you'll agree that we want a11y enabled for all GTK > applications, and the best way to do this is to make the > initialisation happen in gtk_init(). The gtk-modules XSETTING makes > this possible. The proposed method of getting things loaded is: > > 1. gnome-set

Re: [g-a-devel] GnomeClient replacement?

2006-07-26 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le mercredi 26 juillet 2006 à 09:05 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > On 7/26/06, Fernando Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Humm I'm seeing a problem here. What about GNOME/GTK+ applications > > launched outside a gnome-session? (for example people using KDE). > > > > They won't get the gtk

Re: [g-a-devel] GnomeClient replacement?

2006-07-26 Thread Matthias Clasen
On 7/26/06, Fernando Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Humm I'm seeing a problem here. What about GNOME/GTK+ applications > launched outside a gnome-session? (for example people using KDE). > > They won't get the gtk-modules XSETTING and then they won't be accesible at > all. > > I guess that

Re: [g-a-devel] GnomeClient replacement?

2006-07-26 Thread Fernando Herrera
Humm I'm seeing a problem here. What about GNOME/GTK+ applications launched outside a gnome-session? (for example people using KDE). They won't get the gtk-modules XSETTING and then they won't be accesible at all. I guess that the solution that Kristian pointed (gtk loading auto loading "runtime

Re: [g-a-devel] GnomeClient replacement?

2006-07-26 Thread James Henstridge
On 26/07/06, Fernando Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/26/06, James Henstridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1. gnome-settings-daemon is modified to set the gtk-modules XSETTING, > > based on the existing gconf key. If accessibility is enabled, it sets > > it to "libgail:libatk-bridge".

Re: [g-a-devel] GnomeClient replacement?

2006-07-26 Thread Fernando Herrera
On 7/26/06, James Henstridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. gnome-settings-daemon is modified to set the gtk-modules XSETTING, > based on the existing gconf key. If accessibility is enabled, it sets > it to "libgail:libatk-bridge". So if we are moving to this solution we could also add a "gnome_

Re: [g-a-devel] GnomeClient replacement?

2006-07-26 Thread James Henstridge
On 26/07/06, Bill Haneman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 19:20, James Henstridge wrote: > > > > > Havoc's summary at the bottom of his email says why the current > > gnome_program_init() code is a hack: > > > > > > In summary: > > > > - if every libgtk app should do something,

Re: [g-a-devel] GnomeClient replacement?

2006-07-26 Thread Bill Haneman
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 19:20, James Henstridge wrote: > > Havoc's summary at the bottom of his email says why the current > gnome_program_init() code is a hack: > > > > In summary: > > > - if every libgtk app should do something, get that code in gtk (in the olden days this was not acceptable t

Re: [g-a-devel] GnomeClient replacement?

2006-07-25 Thread James Henstridge
On 26/07/06, Bill Haneman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 17:57, Havoc Pennington wrote: > > ... > > > It's just that people were too lazy to fix > > it generically, and instead went on a cut-and-paste spree. That the > > cut-and-paste spree included libgnome and thus got some s

Re: [g-a-devel] GnomeClient replacement?

2006-07-25 Thread Bill Haneman
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 17:57, Havoc Pennington wrote: > ... > It's just that people were too lazy to fix > it generically, and instead went on a cut-and-paste spree. That the > cut-and-paste spree included libgnome and thus got some subset of apps > all at once hardly changes the basic situatio

Re: [g-a-devel] GnomeClient replacement?

2006-07-25 Thread Bill Haneman
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 17:12, Matthias Clasen wrote: ... > We added the gtk-modules setting a long time ago. IIRC, the main > purpose was to replace the use of GTK_MODULES for a11y, but that > never happened... I guess I don't fully understand the gtk-modules xsetting or how it works. If not for 2