Re: Can we enforce beta release for the freeze

2021-03-20 Thread Eric via desktop-devel-list
Hi, Noticed a question about a way to automate, GitLab CI could automate beta and stable releases for us, did some digging and found this Python package that could help with that. Don’t know it this will help any, but here is a link to that scrip.

Re: Can we enforce beta release for the freeze

2021-02-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 11:35 am, Michael Catanzaro wrote: And it turned that bad plumbing was at fault (Turns out bad things happen when drain pipes slope upwards instead of downwards) ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Re: Can we enforce beta release for the freeze

2021-02-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 7:42 pm, Bastien Nocera wrote: It's like giving your mate a key to your place so they can do laundry while you're away. You don't expect them to have flooded the place when you get back. In fairness, the one time I flooded a laundry room, I caught it pretty quickly

Re: Can we enforce beta release for the freeze

2021-02-27 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Sat, 2021-02-27 at 10:26 -0800, Philip Chimento via desktop-devel- list wrote: > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 5:54 AM Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list > wrote: > > The release team can do "non maintainer" releases, of course; the > > problem is, of course, that maintainers can be *very*

Re: Can we enforce beta release for the freeze

2021-02-27 Thread Philip Chimento via desktop-devel-list
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 5:54 AM Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list < desktop-devel-list@gnome.org> wrote: > The release team can do "non maintainer" releases, of course; the problem > is, of course, that maintainers can be *very* protective of their fiefdoms, > so the release team has to wait

Re: Can we enforce beta release for the freeze

2021-02-23 Thread Tristan Van Berkom
Hi all, and long time no see, hope everyone is doing well... On Tue, 2021-02-23 at 08:37 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: [...] > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 1:53 pm, Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list > wrote: > > In the end, though, releases are manual labour; only the maintainer > > can say:

Re: Can we enforce beta release for the freeze

2021-02-23 Thread Michael Catanzaro
FWIW I agree that freeze should apply to tarballs, i.e. any features or UI changes not in a tarball release by the beta tarball deadline ought to be delayed until the next release cycle. Dropping major changes a week later isn't fair to Shaun and anyone else working on documentation. But

Re: Can we enforce beta release for the freeze

2021-02-23 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Mon, 22 Feb 2021 at 00:20, Shaun McCance wrote: > What I want is a discussion on how we can ensure beta releases happen in > the future. For example, can we do more to automate releases? Or (again, > for example), could we have an automated script that emails this list with > modules missing

Re: Can we enforce beta release for the freeze

2021-02-22 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 4:20 PM Shaun McCance wrote: > Hi Georges, > > > What I want is a discussion on how we can ensure beta releases happen in > the future. For example, can we do more to automate releases? Or (again, > for example), could we have an automated script that emails this list

Re: Can we enforce beta release for the freeze

2021-02-21 Thread Shaun McCance
Hi Georges, I appreciate that, and I'm sorry my email was perhaps abrasive and that it upset you. I'll try to choose my words more carefully in the future. It really wasn't my intention to assign blame. I'm also struggling to keep plates spinning, and sometimes I drop them as well. What I want

Re: Can we enforce beta release for the freeze

2021-02-21 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sun, 2021-02-21 at 15:47 -0500, Matthias Clasen via desktop-devel- list wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 3:18 PM Shaun McCance > wrote: > > The freeze is pointless without beta releases, so what can we do to > > enforce that beta releases happen? > > > > > Help out with the modules

Re: Can we enforce beta release for the freeze

2021-02-21 Thread Georges Basile Stavracas Neto via desktop-devel-list
Hi Shaun, I appreciate how frustrating it is to have someone else negatively impacting your day work, and I'm sincerely sorry about that. I'm usually responsible for doing the Settings unstable releases, and Robert usually takes care of stable releases. I should have asked Robert to do this

Re: Can we enforce beta release for the freeze

2021-02-21 Thread Matthias Clasen via desktop-devel-list
On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 3:18 PM Shaun McCance wrote: > Hi all, > > I just wasted a whole lot of time trying to figure out why I wasn't > seeing GNOME 40 settings in both Rawhide and Tumbleweed, only to > discover that gnome-control-center didn't get an upstream 40.beta > release until a few

Can we enforce beta release for the freeze

2021-02-21 Thread Shaun McCance
Hi all, I just wasted a whole lot of time trying to figure out why I wasn't seeing GNOME 40 settings in both Rawhide and Tumbleweed, only to discover that gnome-control-center didn't get an upstream 40.beta release until a few hours ago today. This is extremely frustrating. For all practical