On Sun, 2013-09-29 at 12:34 -0700, Leslie S Satenstein wrote:
So, we also look at the memory consumption in my 1 gig notebook, and
see that 1/3 of it is to support icon presentation.
On my box it is 1563MiB or RAM (`free --mega`), albeit with Evolution,
Epiphany, and gnome-terminal open.
Le 2013-09-24 19:27, Ray Morris a écrit :
Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com said:
You're making a lot of assumptions here. When this story broke it
was
on the basis of two commits, and had no other background
information.
I've read some of the discussion. The news stories did pick up on
Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote:
There's a pdf document somewhere about gnome design foundations (I can't
find it now, but probably I found it on [2],
You're probably thinking of Jon's old GNOME Shell design doc [1].
where you can read a quote
which states something like
Le 2013-09-30 10:56, Allan Day a écrit :
Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote:
There's a pdf document somewhere about gnome design foundations (I
can't
find it now, but probably I found it on [2],
You're probably thinking of Jon's old GNOME Shell design doc [1].
Yes, that's
Le 2013-09-25 00:31, Allan Day a écrit :
Sticking to the topic of text selections specifically (since general
discussions on mailing lists are the road to hell) - we won't make
changes in this area unless there are clear benefits to users. I
think
there is a compelling case to be made for
Ray Morris webmastersguide2...@yahoo.com wrote:
Not be be a jerk, but can you seriously post that with a straight face? ...
didn't turn up anything about the middle mouse button until last week
and that bugzilla has several people begging that the behavior not be
changed. I don't see how
On 09/26/2013 11:21 AM, Allan Day wrote:
Ray Morris webmastersguide2...@yahoo.com wrote:
Not be be a jerk, but can you seriously post that with a straight face? ...
didn't turn up anything about the middle mouse button until last week
and that bugzilla has several people begging that the
Le 26/09/2013 11:34, Ionut Biru a écrit :
The proposed designed is broken from start. Middle click should
never change its behavior.
Please stop the noise and let this thread die. It has already been said
that there is no proposed design at the moment. Once there's one, the
discussion will take
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:34:49PM +0300, Ionut Biru wrote:
How often do you use this functionality in your daily use of gnome?
please answer honestly and I want a straight answer, don't give me a
marketing answer.
I do regularly mix middle click copy / paste with ctrl+c/v copy / paste.
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On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:34:49PM +0300, Ionut Biru wrote:
How often do you use this functionality in your daily use of gnome?
please answer honestly and I
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 04:44:17AM -0700, Leslie S Satenstein wrote:
As Gnome is emulating the Android interface, you should know that if I
wanted a Android interface to Linux, I would certainly go the Android
route.
This is going highly offtopic. Android?!?
People really care about the
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Ionut Biru io...@archlinux.ro wrote:
Hello Allan,
I'm asking you from the position of being a linux user that had used
middle click for years, 10 or more.
How often do you use this functionality in your daily use of gnome?
please answer honestly and I want
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 04:44 -0700, Leslie S Satenstein wrote:
Gnome is emulating the Android interface
citation needed?
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On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Ray Morris
webmastersguide2...@yahoo.comwrote:
Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com said:
I have read discussion of making things easier for new users, the key
word discoverable
is used more than once on the page about the proposal, etc.
Which page? Which
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl wrote:
You're making an argument about simplification in a thread about
middle-click, but the designs for what might happen to middle-click
have neither been finalised nor publicised. I
On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 12:53 -0700, Dave Johansen wrote:
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl wrote:
You're making an argument about simplification in a thread about
middle-click, but the designs for what might happen to
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Middle click, dumbing down Slashdotted
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Ray Morris webmastersguide2...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com said:
I have read discussion of making things easier for new users, the key word
hi;
On 25 September 2013 20:50, Dave Johansen davejohan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Ray Morris webmastersguide2...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com said:
I have read discussion of making things easier for new users, the key
word discoverable
Middle click got Slashdotted. Some of the comments on Slashdot may be of
interest:
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/09/24/1252243/middle-click-paste-not-for-long
It seems to me that one should be careful of any change that may, in a few
cases, make things simpler for users while they are
Ray Morris webmastersguide2...@yahoo.com wrote:
Middle click got Slashdotted. Some of the comments on Slashdot may be of
interest:
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/09/24/1252243/middle-click-paste-not-for-long
Must be a slow news day. That story is almost a month old.
It seems to me that
On 09/24/2013 11:59 AM, tglman wrote:
Really?? are you removing the middle-click-paste??
please don't do it!! tell me what I've to patch for keep it!! I'm
ready to rewrite all Wayland !!
tnks for all the job you are doing, it's really appreciate, I can say
GNOME 3 is so easy to use that
On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 12:15 -0400, Hashem Nasarat wrote:
tnks for all the job you are doing, it's really appreciate, I can
say
GNOME 3 is so easy to use that also my grandmother can use it!!
Please don't be disparaging to grandmothers who use GNOME.
Le 24/09/2013 18:15, Hashem Nasarat a écrit :
Please don't be disparaging to grandmothers who use GNOME.
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/So_simple,_your_mother_could_do_it
Do you know his grandmother? How do you know she doesn't use GNOME ?
Please people, add real content to the topic, or
Really?? are you removing the middle-click-paste??
please don't do it!! tell me what I've to patch for keep it!! I'm ready
to rewrite all Wayland !!
tnks for all the job you are doing, it's really appreciate, I can say
GNOME 3 is so easy to use that also my grandmother can use it!!
but is
Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com said:
You're making a lot of assumptions here. When this story broke it was
on the basis of two commits, and had no other background information.
I've read some of the discussion. The news stories did pick up on context menu,
making it a non-default setting,
Ray Morris webmastersguide2...@yahoo.com wrote:
Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com said:
You're making a lot of assumptions here. When this story broke it was
on the basis of two commits, and had no other background information.
I've read some of the discussion. The news stories did pick up on
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 07:30:58PM +0100, Allan Day wrote:
You're making an argument about simplification in a thread about
middle-click, but the designs for what might happen to middle-click
have neither been finalised nor publicised. I think it would be better
to wait until the text
hi;
On 24 September 2013 19:49, Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl wrote:
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 07:30:58PM +0100, Allan Day wrote:
You're making an argument about simplification in a thread about
middle-click, but the designs for what might happen to middle-click
have neither been finalised
Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com said:
I have read discussion of making things easier for new users, the key word
discoverable
is used more than once on the page about the proposal, etc.
Which page? Which proposal?
The wiki, for example:
On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 20:00 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
I think ”have not been publicised” is the exact pain point of design
process. Wider community has no insight into design until it's
finished. And it's too late for a meaningful input at that point.
you need a design first, if
Emmanuele Bassi (eba...@gmail.com) said:
you need a design first, if you want to comment on it. also, to dispel
a myth: no design is finished. ever.
there is always time to fix things. there's also a certain amount of
time between design and implementation, and then there's a certain
Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl wrote:
You're making an argument about simplification in a thread about
middle-click, but the designs for what might happen to middle-click
have neither been finalised nor publicised. I think it would be better
to wait until the text selection designs have
Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
Large changes in terms of the interaction paradigm, such as the switch from
GNOME 2 and GNOME 3, can be problematic for users, but by presenting them
with a very different interface, it can essentially 'force' a retraining,
that can be assisted by
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