Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2009-01-07 Thread Ross Burton
On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 20:31 +0200, Natan Yellin wrote: > It's probably best _not_ to handle that in a UI. What's the point in > "automatic" context detection if you need to set a huge list of > settings first? One of the many use cases for Shackleton is "when I'm in the office, set my default prin

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2009-01-07 Thread Calum Benson
On 7 Jan 2009, at 18:09, Ross Burton wrote: And FWIW, it's also what NWAM does (well, will do shortly) in OpenSolaris. Interesting. Is this going to be open source? Sure, knock yourself out:

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2009-01-07 Thread Natan Yellin
2009/1/7 Ross Burton > On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 17:24 +, Calum Benson wrote: > > > On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 19:08 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > > >> Then we can build on top of that to provide locations so you can > > >> switch the usage profile, the proxy configuration, VPN settings and > > >> o

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2009-01-07 Thread Ghee Teo
Ross Burton wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 17:24 +, Calum Benson wrote: On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 19:08 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: Then we can build on top of that to provide locations so you can switch the usage profile, the proxy configuration, VPN settings and other stuff basing o

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2009-01-07 Thread Ross Burton
On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 17:24 +, Calum Benson wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 19:08 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > >> Then we can build on top of that to provide locations so you can > >> switch the usage profile, the proxy configuration, VPN settings and > >> other stuff basing on where you si

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2009-01-07 Thread Calum Benson
On 13 Dec 2008, at 09:22, Ross Burton wrote: On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 19:08 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: Then we can build on top of that to provide locations so you can switch the usage profile, the proxy configuration, VPN settings and other stuff basing on where you sit (and get bonus points

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2008-12-13 Thread Ross Burton
On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 20:15 +0200, natan yellin wrote: > This sounds a lot like Marco Polo for MacOS, which I started > cloning as > Shackleton (http://burtonini.com/bzr/shackleton/). > Thats very neat. Is there a project website or mailing list yet? No, it only just works

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2008-12-13 Thread natan yellin
2008/12/13 Ross Burton > On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 19:08 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > > Then we can build on top of that to provide locations so you can > > switch the usage profile, the proxy configuration, VPN settings and > > other stuff basing on where you sit (and get bonus points for > > det

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2008-12-13 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > Hello, > > Behdad Esfahbod wrote: >> Iain * wrote: >>> But I see that no-one else cares >> >> Or, you are not effectively communicating what you mean. > > Actually, I understand Iain getting annoyed here. He makes a proposal > which has its meri

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2008-12-13 Thread Ross Burton
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 19:08 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > Then we can build on top of that to provide locations so you can > switch the usage profile, the proxy configuration, VPN settings and > other stuff basing on where you sit (and get bonus points for > detecting locations basing on stuff li

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2008-12-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 12.12.08 18:42, Bastien Nocera (had...@hadess.net) wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 18:34 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Fri, 12.12.08 12:19, Ronald S. Bultje (rsbul...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > Heya! > > > > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Patryk Zawadzki

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2008-12-12 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 18:34 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Fri, 12.12.08 12:19, Ronald S. Bultje (rsbul...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > Hi, > > Heya! > > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Patryk Zawadzki > > wrote: > > > Futhermore it's really much easier to open one capplet and be able to

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2008-12-12 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Fri, 12.12.08 12:19, Ronald S. Bultje (rsbul...@gmail.com) wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Patryk Zawadzki >> wrote: >> > Futhermore it's really much easier to open one capplet and be able to >> > mute half of the system

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2008-12-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 12.12.08 18:36, Lennart Poettering (mzta...@0pointer.de) wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Patryk Zawadzki > > wrote: > > > Actually as it was pointed out his proposal is perfectly achievable as > > > a theme with oen sound and 3-4 symlinks for the main notification > > > cate

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2008-12-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 12.12.08 12:20, Ronald S. Bultje (rsbul...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Patryk Zawadzki > wrote: > > Actually as it was pointed out his proposal is perfectly achievable as > > a theme with oen sound and 3-4 symlinks for the main notification > > categories (and n

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2008-12-12 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2008/12/12 Lennart Poettering : > On Fri, 12.12.08 17:43, Dave Neary (dne...@gnome.org) wrote: >> This entire discussion has been symptomatic of a malaise in GNOME >> discussion lists, where obstreperousness has consistently put an end to >> interesting debate and turned it into flamewars. The proj

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2008-12-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 12.12.08 12:19, Ronald S. Bultje (rsbul...@gmail.com) wrote: > Hi, Heya! > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Patryk Zawadzki > wrote: > > Futhermore it's really much easier to open one capplet and be able to > > mute half of the system sounds in just one click when preparing to > > giv

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2008-12-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 12.12.08 17:43, Dave Neary (dne...@gnome.org) wrote: > Iain wonders why there are 125 user-configurable system sounds in GNOME. > He sees that most of the sounds are application-specific, not > system-general, and suggests doing away with most of them, and letting > applications handle app

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2008-12-12 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
Hi, [separate reply, because separate issue] On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > Actually as it was pointed out his proposal is perfectly achievable as > a theme with oen sound and 3-4 symlinks for the main notification > categories (and no sounds for the rest of them). S

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2008-12-12 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
Hi, On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > Futhermore it's really much easier to open one capplet and be able to > mute half of the system sounds in just one click when preparing to > give a presentation Like for power-management, this should be automated. Ronald PS for thi

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2008-12-12 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > Hello, > > Behdad Esfahbod wrote: >> Iain * wrote: >>> But I see that no-one else cares >> >> Or, you are not effectively communicating what you mean. > Actually, I understand Iain getting annoyed here. He makes a proposal > which has its merits

Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2008-12-12 Thread Dave Neary
Hello, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > Iain * wrote: >> But I see that no-one else cares > > Or, you are not effectively communicating what you mean. Actually, I understand Iain getting annoyed here. He makes a proposal which has its merits, and likely has counter-points that have merit. But it's very