El jue, 21-03-2013 a las 14:27 +0100, Maciej Piechotka escribió:
> On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 14:17 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:31:38PM +, Patrick Welche wrote:
> > > More of a Wayland FAQ, but on which OSes does Wayland run?
> >
> > I thought it is not Linux-only, but
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 02:32:51PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> Spring is in the air - things change, people are looking for things to
> try and new goals. I propose that we set ourselves a new goal: port
> GNOME to Wayland
Based on the lack of negative feedback, I've updated
https://live.gnome
On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 14:17 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:31:38PM +, Patrick Welche wrote:
> > More of a Wayland FAQ, but on which OSes does Wayland run?
>
> I thought it is not Linux-only, but I am not sure. Anyone know?
>
Quick Google search shows that at least Fr
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:31:38PM +, Patrick Welche wrote:
> More of a Wayland FAQ, but on which OSes does Wayland run?
I thought it is not Linux-only, but I am not sure. Anyone know?
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"stefan skoglund(agj)" a écrit:
> I dont think Redhat wants
The correct way to write it is Red Hat -- not Redhat, nor RedHat or
whatever.
Thank you for keeping that in mind in your future messages.
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On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:48:40AM +0100, stefan skoglund(agj) wrote:
> The RedHat thing is a really longlived bug in redhats bugzilla about
> gvfs metadata induced overload of NFS servers. That bug is rather bad
> and i think that if it isn't resolved it will make GNOME3 impossible to
> run in NFS
mån 2013-03-18 klockan 09:10 -0700 skrev Sriram Ramkrishna:
>
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 7:58 AM, stefan skoglund(agj)
wrote:
> fre 2013-03-15 klockan 14:32 -0400 skrev Matthias Clasen:
>
>
> I dont think Redhat wants to have the same type of
> conversation
We have a gnome-integration list dedicated to integrating GNOME into
environments. That would be a great place to discuss and figure it out.
I'd like to see if we can make GNOME better in environments like yours.
Login performance is slow even without NFS. Boot up performance to GDM
seems to wor
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 09:50:49AM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
>
> > Hi, just to clarify: For 3.12, you would like to drop support for
> > running gnome-shell or mutter on X directly and only support Wayland?
> > I understand that X apps wi
On Monday, 18 March 2013 at 14:58, stefan skoglund(agj) wrote:
> I wont be able to run wayland on my machine (old nv20-based graphical
> card.) Anyone with a spare agp card with really good support in current
> day X.org (http://X.org) ?
Weston can composite with pixman, you don't need accelerated
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 7:58 AM, stefan skoglund(agj) <
stefan.skogl...@agj.net> wrote:
> fre 2013-03-15 klockan 14:32 -0400 skrev Matthias Clasen:
>
>
> I dont think Redhat wants to have the same type of conversation they had
> with an client about GVFS bad behaviour when running over NFS if an
>
fre 2013-03-15 klockan 14:32 -0400 skrev Matthias Clasen:
> Spring is in the air - things change, people are looking for things to
> try and new goals. I propose that we set ourselves a new goal: port
> GNOME to Wayland
>
> Wayland has reached the 1.0 milestone recently and it has already had
> so
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> Hi, just to clarify: For 3.12, you would like to drop support for
> running gnome-shell or mutter on X directly and only support Wayland?
> I understand that X apps will still run on top of GNOME Shell on
> Wayland.
I'm not sure that we shou
On 18 March 2013 05:10, Martyn Russell wrote:
> Is this likely to cause regressions or be problematic with OpenGL or Wine
> based aps/games running on the GNOME shell desktop? I understand vaguely the
> relationship between GTK+ and Wayland, but not how a raw GL based
> application or how a Wine b
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Tristan Van Berkom wrote:
>
> I'm asking this out of my own curiosity... what kind of porting work
> would be required for an 'application' to be ported to wayland ?
>
> Shouldn't that be transparent for most applications by virtue
> of linking against the new def
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 12:10 +, Martyn Russell wrote:
> What are the benefits of moving to Wayland?
I rather enjoyed the recent talk [1] given by Daniel Stone six weeks ago
at LCA. I'd encourage anyone interested in learning more about Wayland
who doesn't already know everything about it to wat
On 15/03/13 18:32, Matthias Clasen wrote:
For more details about Wayland see: http://wayland.freedesktop.org
For more details about this proposal, see http://live.gnome.org/Wayland
Let me know what you think,
Hi Matthias, I had a few questions to satisfy my own curiosity :)
I am neutral here
hi Tristan;
On 18 March 2013 08:31, Tristan Van Berkom wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 3:32 AM, Matthias Clasen
> wrote:
>> features. Lastly, the GTK+ Wayland backend needs some love to reach
>> parity with the X backend. We will retain the ability to run X
>> applications in a compatibility mo
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 3:32 AM, Matthias Clasen
wrote:
> Spring is in the air - things change, people are looking for things to
> try and new goals. I propose that we set ourselves a new goal: port
> GNOME to Wayland
>
> Wayland has reached the 1.0 milestone recently and it has already had
> some
hi Jeremy;
yes, unported applications still using X11 should be able to run
unmodified under an hybrid X/Wayland compositor. what Matthias was
detailing for the 3.12 cut-off cycle is running GNOME Shell as a
Wayland compositor by default, instead of an X11 one.
ciao,
Emmanuele.
On 15 March 201
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> Hi, just to clarify: For 3.12, you would like to drop support for
> running gnome-shell or mutter on X directly and only support Wayland?
> I understand that X apps will still run on top of GNOME Shell on
> Wayland.
Why you bother to do this?
On 15 March 2013 14:32, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> As far as a roadmap is concerned, I am fairly optimistic that we can
> have gnome-shell work as a Wayland compositor within 6 months. That
> will allow us to have optional Wayland support in GNOME 3.10, while
> still using X by default. Reaching thi
Spring is in the air - things change, people are looking for things to
try and new goals. I propose that we set ourselves a new goal: port
GNOME to Wayland
Wayland has reached the 1.0 milestone recently and it has already had
some good success in the embedded space. Many of us have silently
assume
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