Re: Touchscreen Compatibility [was: Feature proposal: combined system status menu]

2013-04-30 Thread Allan Day
Juanjo Marín juanjomari...@yahoo.es wrote: ... But also some problems has arisen in the effort of being compatible with touch devices.For example, I think that the UI of new applications like Documents are very touch friendly, but it's weird for keyboard + mouse users. It is weird because

Re: Touchscreen Compatibility [was: Feature proposal: combined system status menu]

2013-04-30 Thread Julien Olivier
Hi Allan, The selection pattern has been evolving a bit, and we have a round of design changes planned which we will hopefully happen this cycle. Me and Jakub literally have a list of things that can be done to the selection mode to make it better with a pointer. Once we're done I don't

Re: Touchscreen Compatibility [was: Feature proposal: combined system status menu]

2013-04-30 Thread Matthias Clasen
The selection pattern has been evolving a bit, and we have a round of design changes planned which we will hopefully happen this cycle. Me and Jakub literally have a list of things that can be done to the selection mode to make it better with a pointer. Once we're done I don't think it will

Re: Touchscreen Compatibility [was: Feature proposal: combined system status menu]

2013-04-30 Thread Piñeiro
On 04/30/2013 11:37 AM, Allan Day wrote: It should also be said that this pattern does have benefits when you are using a pointer. An obvious example of this is the difference between single/double click. Not only is double click not exactly ideal on a touchpad, but it is also used

Re: Touchscreen Compatibility [was: Feature proposal: combined system status menu]

2013-04-30 Thread drago01
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Tristan Van Berkom t...@gnome.org wrote: There are two paths I can see which an application can take to be touch friendly: a.) Distribute a completely separate binary designed for touch b.) Try to do what gnome-shell seems to be trying, i.e. detect

Re: Touchscreen Compatibility [was: Feature proposal: combined system status menu]

2013-04-25 Thread Juanjo Marín
De: Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com Para: Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org CC: desktop-devel-list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Enviado: Miércoles 24 de abril de 2013 18:34 Asunto: Re: Touchscreen Compatibility [was: Feature proposal: combined system status

Re: Touchscreen Compatibility [was: Feature proposal: combined system status menu]

2013-04-24 Thread Allan Day
Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: ... we have to question ourselves if this is another trend like the netbook one that is somewhat transient and misleading. ... I'd make a distinction here between transformers (Docable tablet that turns into a laptop+trackpad) that switches between touch

Re: Touchscreen Compatibility [was: Feature proposal: combined system status menu]

2013-04-24 Thread Tomas Frydrych
Hi Allan, On 22/04/13 16:26, Allan Day wrote: Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: I am not sure what the criteria is with this regard and I might have miss a public discussion about it. What are we trying to accomplish with this whole trend towards touch? I haven't seen any successful single

Re: Touchscreen Compatibility [was: Feature proposal: combined system status menu]

2013-04-24 Thread Allan Day
Tomas Frydrych tf+lists.gn...@r-finger.com wrote: ... As a basic, but I think pertinent, example -- if one of the reasons for the current design being touch unfriendly is that certain UI elements are too small (which is the most rudimentary problem any UI moving from pointer to touch faces),

Touchscreen Compatibility [was: Feature proposal: combined system status menu]

2013-04-22 Thread Allan Day
Hi Alberto, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: The main element of the design is to combine the sound, network, bluetooth, power and user menus into a single menu. This will enable us to resolve a number of UX issues we've encountered with the existing design (badness on touch, difficulties

Re: Touchscreen Compatibility [was: Feature proposal: combined system status menu]

2013-04-22 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2013/4/22 Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com: Hi Alberto, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: The main element of the design is to combine the sound, network, bluetooth, power and user menus into a single menu. This will enable us to resolve a number of UX issues we've encountered with the