Mono has been successfully used in embedded systems of different sorts.
Examples? Or are we just talking about some guy who got it working once?
In the particular context of Gnome and Mono, I assumed you were talking
about Maemo which is probably the high profile user of Gnome today on an
On jeu, 2006-07-20 at 23:24 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote:
I totally agree but wouldn't it be better to use native languages that
offer all this like the D language (http://www.digitalmars.com/d/).
It's cool to read about various languages, but really, this is off-topic
on this list. We're in
quote who=Philip Van Hoof
In an opensource setting, we should CRUSH political bullshit and overthrow
it with technical superiority. We are by the way NOT doing that, and in
stead failing TECHNICALLY at the exact same POLITICAL problems companies
are also facing.
Philip,
Firstly, what we are
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 11:23 +0200, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 07:07 +0200, Jürg Billeter wrote:
You might be interested in looking at Vala http://www.paldo.org/vala/ .
It's not ready for production use yet but it's available for testing now
and with feedback [hint ;) ]
Hello,
Mono has been successfully used in embedded systems of different sorts.
Examples? Or are we just talking about some guy who got it working once?
Confidential, paying commercial customers.
All we can say is that the PowerPC port was paid by them.
Maemo are not using Python yet as
On 7/20/06, David Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
tor, 20 07 2006 kl. 23:24 +0100, skrev Jamie McCracken:
The D language offers the best of all worlds IMO *without* compromising
on speed, resource usage or bloat. It would be madness to use a VM instead!
(of course its not as integrated
Hello,
Indeed, I find it ironic that in light of recent moves to expand the
Gnome tent to include Mobile and Embedded devices as at GUADEC this
year, that there is at the same time an effort to push MONO into the
stack. At what price are these moves being made or considered? Like
Havoc
On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 14:46 -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote:
Hello,
Indeed, I find it ironic that in light of recent moves to expand the
Gnome tent to include Mobile and Embedded devices as at GUADEC this
year, that there is at the same time an effort to push MONO into the
stack. At what
On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 23:24 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote:
And this is why GNOME should accept and go for higher programming
languages and modern development techniques.
I totally agree but wouldn't it be better to use native languages that
offer all this like the D language
tor, 20 07 2006 kl. 23:24 +0100, skrev Jamie McCracken:
The D language offers the best of all worlds IMO *without* compromising
on speed, resource usage or bloat. It would be madness to use a VM instead!
(of course its not as integrated into Gnome yet and lacks an IDE but if
someone puts
Philip Van Hoof wrote:
On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 23:24 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote:
And this is why GNOME should accept and go for higher programming
languages and modern development techniques.
I totally agree but wouldn't it be better to use native languages that
offer all this like the
David Nielsen wrote:
tor, 20 07 2006 kl. 23:24 +0100, skrev Jamie McCracken:
The D language offers the best of all worlds IMO *without* compromising
on speed, resource usage or bloat. It would be madness to use a VM instead!
(of course its not as integrated into Gnome yet and lacks an IDE
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 00:03 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote:
Philip Van Hoof wrote:
On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 23:24 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote:
D *easily* beats mono and java in every benchmark so runtime
optimisations count for very little here.
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 00:10 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote:
... in about 10 years, once D exits beta and someone sits down to write
a proper IDE, the bindings, etc..
D is already stable enough - yes its officially still in beta but
nothing has changed there and people are building apps
Cody Russell wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 00:10 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote:
... in about 10 years, once D exits beta and someone sits down to write
a proper IDE, the bindings, etc..
D is already stable enough - yes its officially still in beta but
nothing has changed there and people are
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 00:31 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote:
Cody Russell wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 00:10 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote:
... in about 10 years, once D exits beta and someone sits down to write
a proper IDE, the bindings, etc..
D is already stable enough - yes its
Hi;
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 00:10 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote:
the tools we want, the Mono maintainers care about GNOME and as an added
bonus we get to market GNOME to all the college students who are
currently being trained with .NET in mind.
All too true - its why we need volunteers to
Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
Hi;
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 00:10 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote:
the tools we want, the Mono maintainers care about GNOME and as an added
bonus we get to market GNOME to all the college students who are
currently being trained with .NET in mind.
All too true - its why
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 00:35 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
the rationale for some of their choices is risible (uttons are
there to pass on user events not executing actions? key bindings
and composite widgets anyone?).
I haven't at all investigated DUI. I did look at the D specification.
Hello,
I look forward to Mono development over time. I do think it is an
exciting framework. My experience is from the embedded world. My
engineers don't use Python with Gtk+. We use Gtk+ and Gtkmm. My
concern is for the overall user experience. I come from a world of
our own in-house
The reality in this story is that application developers don't want to
care about this. This is why a lot of them prefer to develop using
virtual machines.
And this is why GNOME should accept and go for higher programming
languages and modern development techniques.
I totally
On Don, 2006-07-20 at 23:24 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote:
I totally agree but wouldn't it be better to use native languages that
offer all this like the D language (http://www.digitalmars.com/d/).
No one has ever justified why we need a VM given all its disadvantages
(speed - especially
Indeed, I find it ironic that in light of recent moves to expand the
Gnome tent to include Mobile and Embedded devices as at GUADEC this
year, that there is at the same time an effort to push MONO into the
stack. At what price are these moves being made or considered? Like
Havoc said, innovation
On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 07:03 -0500, Sean Kelley wrote:
Indeed, I find it ironic that in light of recent moves to expand the
Gnome tent to include Mobile and Embedded devices as at GUADEC this
year, that there is at the same time an effort to push MONO into the
stack. At what price are these
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