Re: yelp a11y for 2.28 (was Who is using WebKit in GNOME 2.28?)

2009-08-30 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 23 août 2009 à 11:54 -0400, Willie Walker a écrit : So...I'd like to appeal to the yelp developers to keep the accessible solution turned on by default for 2.28 while we continue our work towards WebKit a11y for GNOME 3.0. Let me warn you that downstream, we are getting short of

Re: Who is using WebKit in GNOME 2.28?

2009-08-26 Thread Willie Walker
Hi Andre: Distros that think that webkit a11y is not good enough in 2.28 are free to ship older module versions that do not depend on webkit, or (better) put additional manpower on fixing the remaining webkit a11y issues. ;-) I hear you, but this seems to go against the idea that

Re: yelp a11y for 2.28 (was Who is using WebKit in GNOME 2.28?)

2009-08-24 Thread Willie Walker
Hi Shaun: Thanks for sticking with Gecko for 2.28. Very much appreciated and very much the right thing to do IMO. :-) As I mentioned, we'll continue on our WebKit a11y path for GNOME 3.0, but sticking with Gecko for now is a huge relief. For other questions, I think we can move the

yelp a11y for 2.28 (was Who is using WebKit in GNOME 2.28?)

2009-08-23 Thread Willie Walker
Thanks everyone! Based upon the responses, I think the gap that would have no alternative accessible solution would be if yelp chose to ship with a WebKit-only solution. The unfortunate thing about this is that yelp is quite important for our users. Many of them are coming to GNOME for the

Re: yelp a11y for 2.28 (was Who is using WebKit in GNOME 2.28?)

2009-08-23 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 11:54 -0400, Willie Walker wrote: Thanks everyone! Based upon the responses, I think the gap that would have no alternative accessible solution would be if yelp chose to ship with a WebKit-only solution. The unfortunate thing about this is that yelp is quite important

Re: Who is using WebKit in GNOME 2.28?

2009-08-22 Thread Olivier Le Thanh Duong
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Andre Klapperak...@gmx.net wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 20.08.2009, 08:40 -0400 schrieb Willie Walker: Which projects are going to use it According to the jhbuild 2.28 moduleset: devhelp, epiphany, seed, yelp. And under suggests (no hard dependency): anjuta

Who is using WebKit in GNOME 2.28?

2009-08-20 Thread Willie Walker
Hi All: I'm trying to assess the impact WebKit a11y is going to have on GNOME in 2.28. Which projects are going to use it and will there be alternatives for people to use Gecko-based technology if WebKit a11y isn't quite soup yet for 2.28? Note that this is not a slam on the very hard

Re: Who is using WebKit in GNOME 2.28?

2009-08-20 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 20.08.2009, 08:40 -0400 schrieb Willie Walker: Which projects are going to use it According to the jhbuild 2.28 moduleset: devhelp, epiphany, seed, yelp. And under suggests (no hard dependency): anjuta (for devhelp plugin), empathy. and will there be alternatives for people

Re: Who is using WebKit in GNOME 2.28?

2009-08-20 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 16:27 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 20.08.2009, 08:40 -0400 schrieb Willie Walker: Which projects are going to use it According to the jhbuild 2.28 moduleset: devhelp, epiphany, seed, yelp. Hi there. Yelp maintainer here. Who exactly decided to use

Re: Who is using WebKit in GNOME 2.28?

2009-08-20 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Hey, On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 09:21 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: Yelp will not be using WebKit for 2.28, but it will almost certainly use it for 2.30/3.0, unless there are serious problems we can't iron out. That includes accessibility issues. Please keep us posted. Is there any specific

Re: Who is using WebKit in GNOME 2.28?

2009-08-20 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
I'll leave it to the Yelp maintainer to answer that question. But FWIW, it took (what felt like) quite a while to have accessible help for the GNOME desktop -- a topic which was regularly raised on the Orca users list. Now we have it. I think it would be a shame to take this valuable tool away

Re: Who is using WebKit in GNOME 2.28?

2009-08-20 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 11:44 -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: Hey, On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 09:21 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: Yelp will not be using WebKit for 2.28, but it will almost certainly use it for 2.30/3.0, unless there are serious problems we can't iron out. That includes

Re: Who is using WebKit in GNOME 2.28?

2009-08-20 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 20.08.2009, 09:42 -0500 schrieb Shaun McCance: On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 16:27 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: According to the jhbuild 2.28 moduleset: devhelp, epiphany, seed, yelp. Hi there. Yelp maintainer here. Who exactly decided to use the webkit branch in that

Re: Who is using WebKit in GNOME 2.28?

2009-08-20 Thread Frederic Peters
Shaun McCance wrote: This means that anybody running 2.27.x from jhbuild has been unable to use the new Mallard stuff, which is the single most noteworthy thing in Yelp 2.28. The modulesets were using webkit for a while, as it was the easiest way to get webkit support exposed, but switched

Re: Who is using WebKit in GNOME 2.28?

2009-08-20 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 20.08.2009, 09:50 -0500 schrieb Shaun McCance: I was busy working on Mallard support for 2.28, and didn't have time (or make time) to review the WebKit stuff. And now I consider it to be way too late in the release cycle for this kind of change. I agree it's late in the

Re: Who is using WebKit in GNOME 2.28?

2009-08-20 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 09:50 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: I was busy working on Mallard support for 2.28, and didn't have time (or make time) to review the WebKit stuff. And now I consider it to be way too late in the release cycle for this kind of change. I can easily agree with that

Re: Who is using WebKit in GNOME 2.28?

2009-08-20 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 23:29 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeudi 20 août 2009 à 09:50 -0500, Shaun McCance a écrit : Is there any specific reasons why it will not use WebKit for 2.28? I understand we have little time for real world testing, but it would be useful to understand whether