Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
Is this API appropriate for GTK+ and adaptable for use with Windows
and OS X?
OS X could use the bacon backend (that uses Unix domain sockets).
On Windows AF_UNIX is not available, but Windows has named pipes that
are more similar to sockets than to Unix named pipes.
Hi;
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 13:47 +0200, Marco Barisione wrote:
Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
On Windows AF_UNIX is not available, but Windows has named pipes that
are more similar to sockets than to Unix named pipes. However only the
client part of named pipes is supported on Windows 9x/Me.
Hi, list
As an alternative to GUnique, you could do the kind of thing Maemo does
just by using D-Bus.
http://live.gnome.org/DesktopAppsAsDBusServices
(Crappy write-up, but I just haven't had time to sort it out. Sorry!)
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 16:07 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
Hi;
On Sun,
On 9/24/06, Alex Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, list
As an alternative to GUnique, you could do the kind of thing Maemo does
just by using D-Bus.
If just by using D-Bus means what I think it does, then all desktop
apps doing so are broken. You need to handle startup-notification too
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 09:43 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote:
On 9/24/06, Alex Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, list
As an alternative to GUnique, you could do the kind of thing Maemo does
just by using D-Bus.
If just by using D-Bus means what I think it does, then all desktop
apps doing
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 09:43 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote:
(Crappy write-up, but I just haven't had time to sort it out. Sorry!)
GUnique already uses D-Bus (with bacon as a backup). So, how is your
proposal different than GUnique? (Other than startup-notification not
being mentioned in your
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 09:13 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 09:43 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote:
(Crappy write-up, but I just haven't had time to sort it out. Sorry!)
GUnique already uses D-Bus (with bacon as a backup). So, how is your
proposal different than GUnique?
Dom, 2006-09-24 às 16:57 +0100, Alex Jones escreveu:
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 09:43 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote:
GUnique already uses D-Bus (with bacon as a backup). So, how is your
proposal different than GUnique? (Other than startup-notification not
being mentioned in your proposal yet?)
Elijah Newren wrote:
http://live.gnome.org/DesktopAppsAsDBusServices
(Crappy write-up, but I just haven't had time to sort it out. Sorry!)
GUnique already uses D-Bus (with bacon as a backup). So, how is your
proposal different than GUnique? (Other than startup-notification not
being
(Crap, *sends to list this time round*)
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 23:28 +0100, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
Dom, 2006-09-24 às 16:57 +0100, Alex Jones escreveu:
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 09:43 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote:
GUnique already uses D-Bus (with bacon as a backup). So, how is your
On 9/24/06, Alex Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 09:13 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
Is extensible compatible with hiding the gory details of start-up
notification timestamps? I don't know. I don't have a good sense
of what a prototypical D-Bus exporting application looks
On 9/24/06, Alex Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is exactly the situation BMPx is in, too.
It has pretty cool effects for, say, file managers, too. Consider that
gnomevfs.show_uri had the support to read a D-Bus bus-name and object
path from a .desktop file for an application, and instead
On 9/24/06, Havoc Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Though I guess either way, you have essentially zero chance of getting
this right without using libstartup-notification ... which might be the
bigger picture point.
Actually as long as you aren't forking/execing a new process,
Jeff Waugh wrote:
Is this API appropriate for GTK+ and adaptable for use with Windows
and OS X?
OS X could use the bacon backend (that uses Unix domain sockets).
On Windows AF_UNIX is not available, but Windows has named pipes that
are more similar to sockets than to Unix named pipes. However
On Sat, 2006-09-23 at 19:39 +0200, Marco Barisione wrote:
Jeff Waugh wrote:
Is this API appropriate for GTK+ and adaptable for use with Windows
and OS X?
OS X could use the bacon backend (that uses Unix domain sockets).
On Windows AF_UNIX is not available, but Windows has named pipes
Jeff Waugh wrote:
Can we use it as-is (or as well-defined cut'n'paste code) in GNOME 2.18 and
plan towards migrating to a GTK+ 2.12 version in GNOME 2.20? Let's at least
have a plan for it, otherwise we're just adding yet another [as above] with
little active thought for our users,
On 9/23/06, Steve Frécinaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jeff Waugh wrote:
Can we use it as-is (or as well-defined cut'n'paste code) in GNOME 2.18 and
plan towards migrating to a GTK+ 2.12 version in GNOME 2.20? Let's at least
have a plan for it, otherwise we're just adding yet another [as
On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 19:36 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote:
On 9/21/06, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Before recommending that everyone use GUnique, could we define a
migration path for it to enter the platform? We really don't need yet
another
shared library, and yet another module to
quote who=Alexander Larsson
Uhm? Why not use X for IPC?
Because clearly you would be hit by a bus if you considered such outrageous
notions.
- Jeff
--
linux.conf.au 2007: Sydney, Australia http://lca2007.linux.org.au/
Whatcha wanna be when you grow up?
On 9/22/06, Alexander Larsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Uhm? Why not use X for IPC?
*shrug* I remember that we (Matthias, Vytas, and I) discussed D-Bus,
Bonobo, and Bacon (since there were several Gnome applications using
each of those for their single-instance mechanism) and X (which
Matthias
On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 19:36 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote:
I agree that we don't really want another shared library, long term.
Luckily, it should be easy to update apps when GUnique becomes part of
some other library, as the code required to use GUnique is pretty
small. As to how we get there,
On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 02:12 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote:
On 9/22/06, Alexander Larsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Uhm? Why not use X for IPC?
*shrug* I remember that we (Matthias, Vytas, and I) discussed D-Bus,
Bonobo, and Bacon (since there were several Gnome applications using
each of
Hi;
On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 13:49 +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote:
*shrug* I remember that we (Matthias, Vytas, and I) discussed D-Bus,
Bonobo, and Bacon (since there were several Gnome applications using
each of those for their single-instance mechanism) and X (which
Matthias brought up
Alexander Larsson wrote:
One advantage of using X would be that it works for remote X clients
too.
I think it'd be a mistake to start using X for all ipc for that reason -
you'd end up never using dbus, and X is kind of a sucky IPC.
To solve this for dbus there are two basic approaches, one
On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 02:12 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote:
On 9/22/06, Alexander Larsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Uhm? Why not use X for IPC?
*shrug* I remember that we (Matthias, Vytas, and I) discussed D-Bus,
Bonobo, and Bacon (since there were several Gnome applications using
each of
On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 05:49 -0400, Richard Hughes wrote:
So I propose, tell maintainers to link against linguniqueapp (as it's
more sane that what we have already[1]) and then depreciate it in a
couple of years time when we've decided where it belongs. This means
maintainers like me get
On 9/4/06, Emmanuele Bassi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Plans for the 2.17/2.18 cycle (many recycled from the 2.15/2.16 cycle):
snip
* If available, add single instance support to the Dictionary
using the GUnique library;
Note that the GUnique library depends on a patch not yet merged into
On 9/21/06, Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/4/06, Emmanuele Bassi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Plans for the 2.17/2.18 cycle (many recycled from the 2.15/2.16 cycle):
snip
* If available, add single instance support to the Dictionary
using the GUnique library;
Note that the
Third time's a charm, or so I hope...
On 9/21/06, Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
2) gnome-power-manager has an example of how to use libguniqueapp in
gnome-power-manager/src/gpm-prefs.c, which is a relatively short file.
(See bug 357128 first, though!). Other examples can be
quote who=Elijah Newren
Um, oops... Richard just pointed out to me how I had forgotten that Vytas
had done a very good job making the GUnique library work as well as
possible with gtk+-2.10. So, you can still implement it this cycle. Some
notes:
1) Richard has imported the GUnique
On 9/21/06, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Before recommending that everyone use GUnique, could we define a
migration path for it to enter the platform? We really don't need yet another
shared library, and yet another module to release, and yet another separate
API to learn. Is this API
On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Bryan Clark wrote:
The first, obvious transition is to a save dialog window with the same
behaviour of the GtkFileChooserDialog, to use the tab completion + full
path editing of the destination file; the currently used layout (preview
+ save stuff + (save, cancel,
På Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:41:03AM -0400, JP Rosevear skrev:
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 13:17 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 12:22 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
Hi Jeff;
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 21:01 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Emmanuele Bassi
At the moment,
Wouter Bolsterlee wrote:
På Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:41:03AM -0400, JP Rosevear skrev:
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 13:17 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 12:22 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
Hi Jeff;
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 21:01 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
Hi Bryan;
On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 11:49 -0400, Bryan Clark wrote:
That would be a welcome addition, yes. However, please make it a global
option in the dialog instead of the double timeout widgets in Gimp's 2.2
series...
Wow, it's gnome-utils branch deja vu all over again! [1] :)
Indeed.
Hi;
On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 15:59 -0400, Bryan Clark wrote:
Last time the thread died out pretty quickly, and since I had to push
back the UI work on the screenshot app, I'd like to nail it down for
real this time.
The first, obvious transition is to a save dialog window with the same
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 21:50 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Alan Cox
Xv from fifteen years ago except for the lassoo.
I didn't want to rub it in.
We could even integrate video screencast creating tools into the default
screenshot tool (such as Byzanz, Istanbul, or a combination
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 13:17 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 12:22 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
Hi Jeff;
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 21:01 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Emmanuele Bassi
At the moment, it is fairly difficult to do a window selection unless you
know
Forgot to Cc: some people
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 11:13 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
Hi all;
I've just branched gnome-utils for the stable cycle. The branch is
called gnome-2-16; all new development will happen on HEAD.
Plans for the 2.17/2.18 cycle (many recycled from the 2.15/2.16 cycle):
Hi Jeff;
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 21:01 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Emmanuele Bassi
* Switch Screenshot to a full GtkFileChooser dialog and provide
the UI it as a shared library for other applications to use;
Have you seen the Windows Vista screenshot tool? The basic UI is
quote who=Emmanuele Bassi
At the moment, it is fairly difficult to do a window selection unless
you know the secret password (key combo or CLI parameters). An optional
two step process (made optional by defaulting to full screen as it works
now) would help with that.
The problem is
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 21:01 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Emmanuele Bassi
* Switch Screenshot to a full GtkFileChooser dialog and provide
the UI it as a shared library for other applications to use;
Have you seen the Windows Vista screenshot tool? The basic UI is pants, but
Ar Llu, 2006-09-04 am 21:01 +1000, ysgrifennodd Jeff Waugh:
Have you seen the Windows Vista screenshot tool? The basic UI is pants, but
it offers some cool features that we could swipe:
* Full screen
* Window selection (click to choose)
* Rectangular selection
* Lassoo selection
quote who=Alan Cox
Xv from fifteen years ago except for the lassoo.
I didn't want to rub it in.
We could even integrate video screencast creating tools into the default
screenshot tool (such as Byzanz, Istanbul, or a combination of the two
so we can do GIF and GStreamer video codecs).
On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 09:33:29PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Emmanuele Bassi
At the moment, it is fairly difficult to do a window selection unless
you know the secret password (key combo or CLI parameters). An optional
two step process (made optional by defaulting to full
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 11:50 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
Forgot to Cc: some people
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 11:13 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
Hi all;
I've just branched gnome-utils for the stable cycle. The branch is
called gnome-2-16; all new development will happen on HEAD.
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 21:01 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
* Full screen
* Window selection (click to choose)
* Rectangular selection
We had these in GNOME 1 didn't we? Along with the ability to set a
timer. I think that bringing up a dialog to offer the user the choice is
fairly acceptable. We
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 14:38, Rob Bradford wrote:
Can't we just have a UI like the GIMP acquire dialog? How about this for
a suggestions:
* Print Screen key just acts as before
* Same re Alt-PrntScr (wow I didn't know that existed...)
* Shift-PrntScr brings up dialog
I can never remember
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 14:48 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote:
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 14:38, Rob Bradford wrote:
Can't we just have a UI like the GIMP acquire dialog? How about this for
a suggestions:
* Print Screen key just acts as before
* Same re Alt-PrntScr (wow I didn't know that
quote who=Emmanuele Bassi
I had planned the UI change during 2.15, but between work, moving between
countries and the wedding I could not get around and finish it.
Meanwhile, and interesting comment:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alextrafford/233711798/
:-)
- Jeff
--
linux.conf.au 2007:
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 13:36 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 11:50 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
Forgot to Cc: some people
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 11:13 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
Hi all;
I've just branched gnome-utils for the stable cycle. The branch is
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 12:22 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
Hi Jeff;
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 21:01 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Emmanuele Bassi
At the moment, it is fairly difficult to do a window selection unless you
know the secret password (key combo or CLI parameters). An optional
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 13:17 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
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