hello!
i will begin this mail with a warning:
**
this topic is highly dangerous, it could result in flame-wars,
holy-wars, suicide, death or murdering. so please be kind and nobody
will get hurt (even not your cat or your hamster) and vincent may gets
an ice
Am Freitag 09 November 2007 12:27:42 schrieb daniel g. siegel:
autofoo is checking if i have installed the gnu fortran 77 compiler.
This is actually a bug in libtool.m4. The macro AC_PROG_LIBTOOL runs
conditional checks for Java (GCJ), but unconditional ones for C++ and
Fortran. Most of the
On Nov 9, 2007 12:27 PM, daniel g. siegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so richard hughes and ali sabil told me about waf
(http://code.google.com/p/waf/) as a build system replace for toc2,
which would support translations nicely. has anyone used this tool?
The XMMS2 project uses Waf and we are
On 09/11/2007, daniel g. siegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hello!
i will begin this mail with a warning:
**
this topic is highly dangerous, it could result in flame-wars,
holy-wars, suicide, death or murdering. so please be kind and nobody
will get hurt
Hi all,
How comes I feel that everybody will propose his own favorite
build-system scheme where autotools (far from being perfect) are widely
accepted as a 'standard' and known (and sometimes understood) by
numerous people.
IMHO, Autotools are broken but it's the best trade-off for now.
Regards
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 12:27 +0100, daniel g. siegel wrote:
hello!
i will begin this mail with a warning:
**
this topic is highly dangerous, it could result in flame-wars,
holy-wars, suicide, death or murdering. so please be kind and nobody
will get hurt
On 9/14/07, Pascal Terjan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I had reported the bug on vte
(http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476726) but I actually face
it in other modules (just tested gedit) and a lot may have the same
problem.
[...]
So, the fix I proposed is to add
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 15:23:40 +0100,
Pascal Terjan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
[...]
So, the fix I proposed is to add AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR(.) in
configure.ac
After 2 months it looks like nobody is interested in this issue...
What should I do ? Open a bug on each module and hope most
2007/11/9, daniel g. siegel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
hello!
toc2 instead
toc2 instead was really nice, i can edit most of it using bash or
makefiles. its fast as hell and does what i want:
* fast: it doesnt open a shell for each executed command, which
allows to be
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 13:52 +0100, Daniel Svensson wrote:
waf runs in two steps, first configure,
then build. And I cannot stress enough how fast it is. Zooom! Also it
has a very nice looks ;)
Yes, I evaluated waf a few months ago. It's a very nice internal design,
and very pluggable.
2007/11/9, Dodji Seketeli [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 15:23:40 +0100,
Pascal Terjan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
[...]
So, the fix I proposed is to add AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR(.) in
configure.ac
After 2 months it looks like nobody is interested in this issue...
What should I do
Hi,
daniel g. siegel wrote:
snip
please understand, i dont want to bring up a autotools is bad and it
should die-thread, i just want to use my time to code and not to use
that time and effort on a build system. i also know, that i have stabbed
into a beehive, so please be kind lets keep
Richard Hughes wrote:
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 13:52 +0100, Daniel Svensson wrote:
waf runs in two steps, first configure,
then build. And I cannot stress enough how fast it is. Zooom! Also it
has a very nice looks ;)
Yes, I evaluated waf a few months ago. It's a very nice internal design,
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007, Pascal Terjan wrote:
So, the fix I proposed is to add AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR(.) in configure.ac
This looks like a workaround; I'm sorry if I missed that part but can't
intltool be fixed to work in this case?
--
Loïc Minier
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On 11/9/07, Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007, Pascal Terjan wrote:
So, the fix I proposed is to add AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR(.) in configure.ac
This looks like a workaround; I'm sorry if I missed that part but can't
intltool be fixed to work in this case?
intltool is
On 11/9/07, Pascal Terjan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/9/07, Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007, Pascal Terjan wrote:
So, the fix I proposed is to add AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR(.) in configure.ac
This looks like a workaround; I'm sorry if I missed that part but can't
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 15:40 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
That said, there is one concern which trumps all others when choosing
a
build system: how easy is it for someone with a plain vanilla
distribution to compile install your software? ./configure make
make install is about as hard as it
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 12:27 +0100, daniel g. siegel wrote:
though my biggest concern about toc2 at the moment is translation
handling, which is not supported by itself and therefore has to be done
manually with xgettext and msgmerge.
What are you doing with documentation? A lot of work was
Il giorno ven, 09/11/2007 alle 15.51 +0100, Emmanuel Fleury ha scritto:
Richard Hughes wrote:
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 13:52 +0100, Daniel Svensson wrote:
waf runs in two steps, first configure,
then build. And I cannot stress enough how fast it is. Zooom! Also it
has a very nice looks ;)
On Nov 9, 2007 2:51 PM, Emmanuel Fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard Hughes wrote:
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 13:52 +0100, Daniel Svensson wrote:
waf runs in two steps, first configure,
then build. And I cannot stress enough how fast it is. Zooom! Also it
has a very nice looks ;)
Yes,
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 18:38 +, BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
I created an initially simple configuration system for SCons and wrote
SConstruct files for building Richard Hughes gnome-power-manager. It
turned out to be a pretty good exercise because g-p-m has many
optional dependencies, such as
On Nov 9, 2007 8:01 PM, Richard Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 18:38 +, BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
I created an initially simple configuration system for SCons and wrote
SConstruct files for building Richard Hughes gnome-power-manager. It
turned out to be a pretty
Hi,
2007/11/9, Ali Sabil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Nov 9, 2007 8:01 PM, Richard Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 18:38 +, BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
I created an initially simple configuration system for SCons and wrote
SConstruct files for building Richard Hughes
On 11/9/07, Lucas Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't want to comment about any specific build system. I have a
couple of more fundamental questions about this topic though:
- What's the *problem* that needs to be solved that really demands us
to choose another build system?
I think
Richard Hughes wrote:
- Are the current drawbacks of using autotools in GNOME so so so
annoying that it would be really worth the effort of migrating to
something else?
Well, I just copy and paste chunks of code in configure.ac from other
projects, changing the names of constants where
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 00:37 +0200, Lucas Rocha wrote:
- What's the *problem* that needs to be solved that really demands us
to choose another build system?
The problem is the initial step; I only started coding open source stuff
a few years ago, and the biggest hurdle was just making stuff
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 23:03 +, Alp Toker wrote:
Richard Hughes wrote:
- Are the current drawbacks of using autotools in GNOME so so so
annoying that it would be really worth the effort of migrating to
something else?
Well, I just copy and paste chunks of code in configure.ac from
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 10:45:19PM +0100, Ali Sabil wrote:
I have usd waf quite a lot, it basically just blows off autotools,
anyway, I am afraid the whole discussion will become pointless, as
long as people criticize things without even giving them a try, just
for the sake of criticizing...
Il giorno ven, 09/11/2007 alle 16.58 -0600, Jonathon Jongsma ha scritto:
On 11/9/07, Lucas Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Are the current drawbacks of using autotools in GNOME so so so
annoying that it would be really worth the effort of migrating to
something else?
The only reason I
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 00:32 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
In this case there is an easy solution. Convert a few GNOME projects
to the new build system and show the result.
Good plan. I've got an old branch of gnome-power-manager building with
waf, and I indend on having waf a build method for
Hello,
On 11/9/07, Rob Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(...)
One problem I find rather endemic in gnome is a) 'forced' usage of older
automake/autoconf versions (why AM 1.7? why?!) and a lot of very
confusing and messy autotools usage (I'll make a list if people want..).
Maybe it'd be better
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