GConf --makefile-uninstall-rule is incompatible with packaging systems

2006-01-10 Thread Stanislav Brabec
Hallo. I want to discuss a design problem of GConf --makefile-uninstall-rule. I have been searching for the reason, why GConf database contains obsolete keys after correct package update. I found that it is a concept problem, which affects many packaging systems: GConf expects following update

gnome-media branched

2006-01-10 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
gnome-media was branched for 2.12 (I think Ronald did this recently but it looks like no mail was sent out to announce it). All bug fixes for 2.12 releases should go on the gnome-2-12 branch. HEAD will now start merging patches for UI changes and GStreamer 0.10 integration. Thomas Dave/Dina :

string freeze explanation on the wiki

2006-01-10 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Frustrated by my inability to easily find a string freeze explanation, I created http://live.gnome.org/MaintainersCorner_2fStringFreeze based on a mail from Christian Rose during the 2.9 cycle. Feel free to further change the page or suggest places in the wiki to link from to this page. Thomas

Re: string freeze explanation on the wiki

2006-01-10 Thread Elijah Newren
On 1/10/06, Thomas Vander Stichele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frustrated by my inability to easily find a string freeze explanation, I created http://live.gnome.org/MaintainersCorner_2fStringFreeze based on a mail from Christian Rose during the 2.9 cycle. Feel free to further change the page or

Re: GConf --makefile-uninstall-rule is incompatible with packaging systems

2006-01-10 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 12:49 +0100, Stanislav Brabec wrote: 4. Enhance GConf: The right fix IMO is that apps should parse the schema files client-side, and don't install them to the gconf source at all. See: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/plans.html This has a bunch of advantages,

Re: GConf --makefile-uninstall-rule is incompatible with packaging systems

2006-01-10 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 09:53 -0500, Havoc Pennington wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 12:49 +0100, Stanislav Brabec wrote: 4. Enhance GConf: The right fix IMO is that apps should parse the schema files client-side, and don't install them to the gconf source at all. See:

Re: Adaptive mode (Was: Re: Browser Mode by Default)

2006-01-10 Thread Calum Benson
On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 19:35 -0500, William Lovaton wrote: Hi, I was reading this thread without much interest but I really have to say something: List View in Nautilus have been improving a lot and I like the new developments so far, but it is very annoying when you select a list item and it

Re: GConf --makefile-uninstall-rule is incompatible with packaging systems

2006-01-10 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 12:49 +0100, Stanislav Brabec wrote: I have been searching for the reason, why GConf database contains obsolete keys after correct package update. I found that it is a concept problem, which affects many packaging systems: GConf expects following update process: -

Re: GConf --makefile-uninstall-rule is incompatible with packaging systems

2006-01-10 Thread Ross Burton
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 18:50 +0100, Jan de Groot wrote: (ever wondered why debian waits such a long time when installing a -data package? It's because of the DB regeneration which fetches the DTD files from sourceforge). Small point but Sarge has an XML catalogue so the DTD used is a local

Re: GConf --makefile-uninstall-rule is incompatible with packaging systems

2006-01-10 Thread Loïc Minier
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006, Rodney Dawes wrote: I'm not sure what the best method for dpkg or other systems would be though. Hopefully less nasty. As I commented in the BTS, I don't think Debian or Ubuntu are affected. -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Earth status: NOT DESTROYED

Re: GConf --makefile-uninstall-rule is incompatible with packaging systems

2006-01-10 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 10 janvier 2006 à 11:23 -0500, Rodney Dawes a écrit : According to the RPM documentation, the way to handle this currently, is unfortunately, to do the --makefile-uninstall-rule in the %pre of the new package, if it's an upgrade, or in the %preun of the package, in the event of

Re: GConf --makefile-uninstall-rule is incompatible with packaging systems

2006-01-10 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 17:46 +0100, Mark Rosenstand wrote: See: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/plans.html This has a bunch of advantages, among them simplifying packaging. Looks good. Does this mean that I should close my bug on the subject?