Re: Will porting to GIO fix trash bugs? (Was Re: Please can we get a consistent desktop neutral trash behaviour.)

2007-10-10 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 14:43 +1000, Lex Hider wrote: On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:46:05 +0100 Emmanuele Bassi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 22:52 +1000, Lex Hider wrote: From what I could understand, the answer was that gnome isn't compatible with the freedesktop trash

Re: Pulseaudio

2007-10-10 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 10:52:14AM +0100, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: Is there any good reason why Pulse Audio explicitly locks the audio device, unlike any other normal ALSA client? And no, making every app use Pulse Audio by force, just because you can, is not a good reason. If

Re: Pulseaudio

2007-10-10 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
On Ter, 2007-10-09 at 09:49 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On 10/9/07, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not saying Pulse Audio has these problems. I simply don't know That can easily be helped. Just try gnome 2.20 with pulseaudio in Fedora 8. It works beautifully.

Re: Pulseaudio

2007-10-10 Thread Matteo Settenvini
Il giorno mer, 10/10/2007 alle 14.00 +0100, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro ha scritto: I tried and I'm still not convinced. Unless there are some special kernel patches in fedora making a big difference, I still hate sound routed through a userspace daemon. I would willingly tolerate it for

Re: Pulseaudio

2007-10-10 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
Hi, On 10/10/07, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: I tried and I'm still not convinced. Unless there are some special kernel patches in fedora making a big difference, I still hate sound routed through a userspace daemon. I would willingly tolerate it for sound coming from network

Re: Pulseaudio

2007-10-10 Thread Evandro Fernandes Giovanini
Em Ter, 2007-10-09 às 15:47 +0100, Bastien Nocera escreveu: On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 10:09 +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 10:04 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: GNOME seems like it's far too high in the stack to include a sound server API - shouldn't we simply depend

Re: Pulseaudio

2007-10-10 Thread Marc-André Lureau
Hi! On 10/10/07, Ronald S. Bultje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's an alternative, crazy idea that some may consider, just for the sake of the argument. If Linux really is 90% of our userbase, which it most likely is, and people are doing all this effort to make sound daemons with configurable

linuxMint's gnome-menu

2007-10-10 Thread Benjamin Gramlich
Hey all, In reference the our earlier discussion of the gnome-panel rethink, I'd like to draw attention to linuxMint's version of the gnome menu. It's an excellent design and a direction I think the official gnome-menu should head. I have the source code for it if anyone would like a copy. You

Re: Pulseaudio

2007-10-10 Thread Nickolay V. Shmyrev
You're not the bad guy. The point is: are you the *only* guy, even if very vocal? I'd like to hear some more opinions from other people that *don't* like Pulseaudio. Others are too patient and avoid /me too but if you like, let me state that I also don't like Pulseaudio for exactly same

Re: linuxMint's gnome-menu

2007-10-10 Thread Josh Sled
Benjamin Gramlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In reference the our earlier discussion of the gnome-panel rethink, I'd like to draw attention to linuxMint's version of the gnome menu. It's an excellent design and a direction I think the official gnome-menu should head. I have the source code for

Re: linuxMint's gnome-menu

2007-10-10 Thread Ken VanDine
Can you send a link to the source? I would love to take it for a spin. Thanks, --Ken On 10/10/07, Benjamin Gramlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, In reference the our earlier discussion of the gnome-panel rethink, I'd like to draw attention to linuxMint's version of the gnome menu. It's

Re: linuxMint's gnome-menu

2007-10-10 Thread Benjamin Gramlich
Do you mean the one pictured http://linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/celena/mintmenu.png? Yeah, that's the one. Sorry I wasn't more clear and didn't attach a link to a picture. It's not a drop-in replacement for the current gnome-menu, but it has some excellent features: 1) The search field

Re: linuxMint's gnome-menu

2007-10-10 Thread Denis Washington
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 12:43 -0500, Benjamin Gramlich wrote: Do you mean the one pictured http://linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/celena/mintmenu.png? Yeah, that's the one. Sorry I wasn't more clear and didn't attach a link to a picture. It's not a drop-in replacement for the current

Re: linuxMint's gnome-menu

2007-10-10 Thread Benjamin Gramlich
single menu quickly tends to get pretty big (see also the SLED menu or even the windows xp/vista menu). this is the coolest thing about the mintMenu: it takes up a static amount of space, both horizontally and vertically. if the submenu that you mouseover is taller than the window for the menu

Re: linuxMint's gnome-menu

2007-10-10 Thread Matteo Settenvini
Il giorno mer, 10/10/2007 alle 12.43 -0500, Benjamin Gramlich ha scritto: Do you mean the one pictured http://linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/celena/mintmenu.png? Yeah, that's the one. Sorry I wasn't more clear and didn't attach a link to a picture. It's not a drop-in replacement for

Re: Pulseaudio

2007-10-10 Thread Martin Meyer
I disagree with your assertion that userspace audio services are wrong. How about userspace USB drivers or scanner drivers? Is SANE completely the wrong approach to scanning? Gnome has ambitions of being cross-desktop. It can NEVER do that if apps are connecting directly to Alsa, just like apps