Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-02-22, 05:26 GMT, Peter Gordon wrote: For what it's worth, when Mono stuff was packaged for Fedora around the FC5 timeframe, it went through a lot of debate with Red Hat's legal team. They are extremely good at what they do, and very careful about licensing issues for Fedora. If

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Xavier Bestel
Hi Mark, On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 21:07 -0500, Mark Fink wrote: [...] sticky notes needs to replace Tomboy as the official GNOME notes program because it is stupid to allow MONO into GNOME. MONO programs CANNOT be allowed to be in GNOME! This only helps M$ destroy Linux! Don't you see!? You are

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:07 AM, Mark Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Curtis Hovey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 20:41 -0500, Mark Fink wrote: I've just started a replacement for Tomboy. I think it (or another notes program if there

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi, Just rewrite sticky note using Vala, you will make some users happy rather than poisoning d-d-l with flames. :) Étienne. -- E Ultreïa ! ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 11:36 +0100, Étienne Bersac wrote: Hi, Just rewrite sticky note using Vala, you will make some users happy rather than poisoning d-d-l with flames. :) +1 ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 05:34 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 11:24 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: Hilarious. We can't also let Knuth poison GNOME with his algorithms and datatypes. I guess it's the same for Ritchie or Kernighan with their C.

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 11:24 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: Hilarious. We can't also let Knuth poison GNOME with his algorithms and datatypes. I guess it's the same for Ritchie or Kernighan with their C. __ / \ / Please

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Luis Villa
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Étienne Bersac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just rewrite sticky note using Vala, you will make some users happy rather than poisoning d-d-l with flames. :) Don't port sticky notes. It's so 1980s. Tomboy is teh awesome. Seriously, I am very suprised that no

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Étienne Bersac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just rewrite sticky note using Vala, you will make some users happy rather than poisoning d-d-l with flames. :) Don't port sticky

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Luis Villa
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Patryk Zawadzki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Étienne Bersac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just rewrite sticky note using Vala, you will make some

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 09:26:55PM -0800, Peter Gordon wrote: Using childlish references (such as M$ and Microvell) is immature and does nothing to further your point. Likewise, name-calling will always strongly discredit your argument, irrelevant to whether or not you are correct. Actually,

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Mark Fink
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:24 AM, Patryk Zawadzki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:07 AM, Mark Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Curtis Hovey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 20:41 -0500, Mark Fink wrote: I've just started

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Mark Fink
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Sandy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/2/21 Mark Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've never written a program before so I also need some help. Also I need a place to put it on the web. SourceForge and Google Code provide free open source project hosting.

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:19:12AM -0500, Mark Fink wrote: Is it because you sold out to M$ and Novell!? I bet so. From http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct: 'Be respectful and considerate' It seems you ignored the various requests to change your tone and my warning. You will be unsubscribed

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Iain
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Mark Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (which begs the question, why was Tomboy started if sticky notes already existed? To poison GNOME with MONO? Hmmm?) Damn, he's on to us lads, quick burn the secret documents, cash your shares and we'll all meet up at the

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Mark Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Sandy Armstrong As for programming help, Google again is your friend. There are also bound to be great books published for your chosen language, and the Foundations of GTK+ book

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Mikael Hallendal
22 feb 2008 kl. 16.22 skrev Mark Fink: Hi, I'll see if my library has a copy or something. I'll probably try taking a lick at the sticky notes program someone already mentioned. No sense starting a new project when one already exists (which begs the question, why was Tomboy started if sticky

Spanish team reaches 100% translation of the plaftorm documentation

2008-02-22 Thread Jorge González González
Hi, the Spanish translation team has reached 100% translation of the platform documentation, I just want to point it out un case you think it's interesting for the release notes. Unless there are huge updates I think we can have it 100% done for the release.

Re: GNOME's testing strategy for GUIs

2008-02-22 Thread Qi-Bo Paul Mei
Hi Brad, I got this mail from Willima Walker, maybe it is late reply. I am in Sun as the QE/RE manager for desktop team. My team has done lots of testing for gnome applications, actually we are finding ways how to do the automation testing. The principle for automation tools we are using is

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Sven Herzberg
Hi Mark, Am Freitag, den 22.02.2008, 10:19 -0500 schrieb Mark Fink: M$ and Novell are taking away our freedoms through GNOME, this has got to stop! As long as they don't take away the freedom to replace mono-based tools, you're still free to develop you alternative project. Maybe it will even

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Ross Burton
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 15:15 +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 09:26:55PM -0800, Peter Gordon wrote: Using childlish references (such as M$ and Microvell) is immature and does nothing to further your point. Likewise, name-calling will always strongly discredit

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 10:19 -0500, Mark Fink wrote: Yes, that requires about... 5 lines in Python. Why do you insist on belittling me? I'm doing more to protect your software freedoms than anyone else here who are all speaking about how MONO is fine. NO IT'S NOT!! Talk is cheap. Show

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 03:39:57PM +, Ross Burton wrote: On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 15:15 +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 09:26:55PM -0800, Peter Gordon wrote: Using childlish references (such as M$ and Microvell) is immature and does nothing to further your

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:33 AM, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Patryk Zawadzki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Étienne Bersac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 15:42 +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 03:39:57PM +, Ross Burton wrote: On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 15:15 +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 09:26:55PM -0800, Peter Gordon wrote: Using childlish references (such

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:46:12AM -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: Now we've used up our share of Friday bulls*** on d-d-l before it's even noon... Back to work everyone :). Strongly agree! :) -- P'tang! Today is Pungenday, the 53rd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do,

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 10:19 -0500, Mark Fink wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:24 AM, Patryk Zawadzki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:07 AM, Mark Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've already gotten it so you can type stuff in a text field, so it already almost has

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Luis Villa
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Sandy Armstrong Don't port sticky notes. It's so 1980s. Tomboy is teh awesome. Seriously, I am very suprised that no one from the less central languages has tried to port Tomboy to their suggested language of choice (hello,

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Dan Winship
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 03:39:57PM +, Ross Burton wrote: On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 15:15 +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 09:26:55PM -0800, Peter Gordon wrote: Using childlish references (such as M$ and Microvell) is immature and

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Joe Shaw
Hi, On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Mark Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you insist on belittling me? I'm doing more to protect your software freedoms than anyone else here who are all speaking about how MONO is fine. NO IT'S NOT!! Where did you get your law degree? How much

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Joe Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I can't believe this is the thread that is going to cause me to unsubscribe from d-d-l. Mark was unsubscribed from the list due to his behavior. Isn't that sufficient? Sandy

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2008/2/22, Sandy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Joe Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I can't believe this is the thread that is going to cause me to unsubscribe from d-d-l. Mark was unsubscribed from the list due to his behavior. Isn't that

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:20:01AM -0500, Joe Shaw wrote: Anyway, I can't believe this is the thread that is going to cause me to unsubscribe from d-d-l. Didn't I deal with it correctly[1]? Complaints about bad mailing list behaviour is always welcome at [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] /

Re: GNOME's testing strategy for GUIs

2008-02-22 Thread Nagappan A
Hi Paul, LDTP team has made 2 releases after the version it has been compared in the chart ! FYI. Accessing noname, can be achieved with the type and an index. For example to access text area in gedit application you can use txt0 for the first page tab and txt1 for the second page tab. Its been

Re: Reintroducing critical warnings?

2008-02-22 Thread Jonh Wendell
Em Ter, 2008-02-19 às 22:05 -0500, Havoc Pennington escreveu: I don't see why a distribution would turn off fatal warnings for an unstable release. The point of an unstable release is to find bugs. So if there's a bug, crashing to invoke bug-buddy and encourage fixage makes sense. If a

Re: Reintroducing critical warnings?

2008-02-22 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 22:05 -0500, Havoc Pennington wrote: Hi, On Feb 19, 2008 6:31 PM, Bastien Nocera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 00:25 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Le mardi 19 février 2008, à 23:46 +0100, Wouter Bolsterlee a écrit : 2008-02-19 klockan 21:20 skrev

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread John McCutchan
I disagree that tomboy should replace the gnome desktop given market adaptability in the caucasus and the microsoft fabrics used in khaki pants. Chrome monogamy has led to reduced rates of venereal disease. --- John McCutchan [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Feb 21, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Mark Fink [EMAIL