Re: Killing bug-buddy?

2011-09-01 Thread Milan Crha
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 09:46 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: I guess you want to kill bug-buddy for regular users only, as you was talking about bugzilla connection, because ABRT is unusable for developers, as it silently ignores crashes in applications which are not packaged, furthermore, if

Re: Confused about the release

2011-09-01 Thread Martyn Russell
On 31/08/11 22:26, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 15:24 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote: Hey Federico, I noticed that we have Contacts, Documents, and Sushi in the apps moduleset. gnome-documents worries me because of its dependency on Tracker. As far as I can tell, g-d

Re: Confused about the release

2011-09-01 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 16:26 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: (FindingAndReminding is even marked obsolete! For clarification: This just refers to its status for 3.2, it does not necessarily refer to future GNOME releases. andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed

Re: Confused about the release

2011-09-01 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi again! Anyway we're late, and I'll ask you for two more days of patience, so that we have the time to meet and give you a proper answer on the practical questions you have; and we will make sure this gets improved in the future. So we had our release team meeting yesterday evening, Shaun

Re: GNOME 3.1.90 beta released!

2011-09-01 Thread Denis Washington
Am 01.09.2011 11:34, schrieb Frederic Peters: Hello all, This is 3.1.90, and it's out! It's the first beta of what will be GNOME 3.2, enjoy it while it's time, the next beta (3.1.91) will arrive next week. I saw this in the release notes of gnome-control-center: Power: - Remove power and

Re: GNOME 3.1.90 beta released!

2011-09-01 Thread Allan Day
Hey Denis! On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Denis Washington den...@online.de wrote: Am 01.09.2011 11:34, schrieb Frederic Peters: Hello all, This is 3.1.90, and it's out! It's the first beta of what will be GNOME 3.2, enjoy it while it's time, the next beta (3.1.91) will arrive next week.

Re: Confused about the release

2011-09-01 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 11:25 +0200, Frederic Peters wrote: Shaun wrote: I noticed that we have Contacts, Documents, and Sushi in the apps moduleset. If shipped, all of these are just core parts of the desktop experience, so I want to document them in the desktop help. But I'm wary of doing

Re: Confused about the release

2011-09-01 Thread Cosimo Cecchi
Hi Federico, On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 16:26 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: With the inclusion of gnome-documents, we are validating Tracker as *the* metadata store for Gnome. Kind of yeah; Tracker is pretty much an unique technology in the platform though and I don't see many alternatives.

Re: Confused about the release

2011-09-01 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 09:22 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 11:25 +0200, Frederic Peters wrote: Shaun wrote: I noticed that we have Contacts, Documents, and Sushi in the apps moduleset. If shipped, all of these are just core parts of the desktop experience, so I want

Re: GNOME 3.1.90 beta released!

2011-09-01 Thread Denis Washington
Am 01.09.2011 15:22, schrieb Allan Day: Hey Denis! On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Denis Washingtonden...@online.de wrote: Am 01.09.2011 11:34, schrieb Frederic Peters: Hello all, This is 3.1.90, and it's out! It's the first beta of what will be GNOME 3.2, enjoy it while it's time, the

Re: Confused about the release

2011-09-01 Thread Martyn Russell
On 01/09/11 14:41, Cosimo Cecchi wrote: Hi Federico, Hi Cosimo, On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 16:26 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: Can we please think about it as does Tracker allow me to implement an innovative application that wasn't possible before rather than is Tracker useful for Gnome?

Re: GNOME 3.1.90 beta released!

2011-09-01 Thread Rui Tiago Cação Matos
On 1 September 2011 15:05, Denis Washington den...@online.de wrote: Sounds interesting, though there is still the discoverability issue: you would have to know that a long button press powers off, and that pressing the power button gives you a shutdown method not accessible from the shell. (In

Re: GNOME 3.1.90 beta released!

2011-09-01 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 14:22 +0100, Allan Day wrote: Hey Denis! On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Denis Washington den...@online.de wrote: Am 01.09.2011 11:34, schrieb Frederic Peters: Hello all, This is 3.1.90, and it's out! It's the first beta of what will be GNOME 3.2, enjoy it

Re: GNOME 3.1.90 beta released!

2011-09-01 Thread Dan Winship
On 09/01/2011 11:06 AM, Shaun McCance wrote: I just want to be clear for the docs. What is the behavior of each of these two buttons? And doing something on long-press is just the goal, but not actually implemented for 3.2? Long-press on power button immediately cuts power to the machine, and

GNOME 3.2 Blocker Report for week 35

2011-09-01 Thread Andre Klapper
Data taken from Bugzilla (bug reports with GNOME Target field set): https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDbug_status=NEEDINFOcf_gnome_target=3.2 Total number: 15 bugs. Comments (e.g. important issues that are missing in

Re: GNOME 3.2 Blocker Report for week 35

2011-09-01 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 18:50 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: Data taken from Bugzilla (bug reports with GNOME Target field set): https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDbug_status=NEEDINFOcf_gnome_target=3.2 Total number: 15

Re: GNOME 3.2 Blocker Report for week 35

2011-09-01 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 17:56 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: gnome-control-center: Network: custom connections don't show up in the list https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645094 There is an old patch by hadess available. There isn't. Oops, true. Sorry, I think that refered to

Re: GNOME 3.1.90 beta released!

2011-09-01 Thread Dodji Seketeli
Denis Washington den...@online.de a écrit: True. As I said, I'm not looking for configurability, but for an overall solution that allows to both suspend and power down. And to hibernate, please. -- Dodji ___ desktop-devel-list

Re: GNOME 3.2 Blocker Report for week 35

2011-09-01 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 01 septembre 2011, à 18:50 +0200, Andre Klapper a écrit : gnome-menus: Tools to perform system administration should be available in the menus somehow https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645061 Patches available in the report. (Note that the tools are available in the Other

Re: Confused about the release

2011-09-01 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 11:25 +0200, Frederic Peters wrote: Documents will just be a preview release, it shows the direction, nothing more, nothing less, I don't think it's worth including it in the desktop help for 3.2. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657520 Documents is on the dash

Re: GNOME 3.2 Blocker Report for week 35

2011-09-01 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 19:01 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 17:56 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: gnome-control-center: Network: custom connections don't show up in the list https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645094 There is an old patch by hadess available.

Re: Confused about the release

2011-09-01 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: (Side note: I'm mildly bemused that we don't include our official web browser in the favorites list of our showcase software.) https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=650616 ___

Re: GNOME 3.1.90 beta released!

2011-09-01 Thread Evandro Giovanini
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 11:17 -0400, Dan Winship wrote: On 09/01/2011 11:06 AM, Shaun McCance wrote: I just want to be clear for the docs. What is the behavior of each of these two buttons? And doing something on

Re: GNOME 3.2 Blocker Report for week 35

2011-09-01 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
libgnomekbd: layout indicator issues https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=642703 Patch available awaiting review. Actually that patch was committed long ago. Will close the bug now. Sergey ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Re: Notes on extensions.gnome.org security

2011-09-01 Thread Owen Taylor
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 17:16 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: [...] On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote: The idea of a GNOME Shell extension is to let the GNOME community build on top of the GNOME Shell code base, to tweak, to customize, and to prototype new

Re: Notes on extensions.gnome.org security

2011-09-01 Thread Alan Cox
A) Make the plugin only tell the downloader what to download and not to download it from. You still need a key - even if the https:// authentication for gnome.org itself to prove the connection is to the correct site. B) Sign extension dowloads with a gnome.org private key. A) is

Re: Notes on extensions.gnome.org security

2011-09-01 Thread Owen Taylor
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 22:35 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: Of course, Linux users run unsandboxed code with arbitary capabilities every day - applications, for example. So the security question with GNOME Shell extensions is not how we can do the almost impossible job of sandboxing them, but how

Re: Rethinking GnomeGoals

2011-09-01 Thread Luis Menina
Le 21/08/2011 18:53, Djohn Heist a écrit : I redid the template file and made it into an matrix so all modules and goals share the same page. It is inspired by http://people.gnome.org/~fpeters/299.html you can have a look at it on https://live.gnome.org/DjohnHeist I'm not sure this would be a

Re: GNOME 3.1.90 beta released!

2011-09-01 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Evandro Giovanini efgiovan...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657496 I hope we get some hardware that's a bit more advanced than this 1990's behaviour in

Re: GNOME 3.1.90 beta released!

2011-09-01 Thread Alan Cox
See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657496 I hope we get some hardware that's a bit more advanced than this 1990's behaviour in the future. Unlikely. Users like a way to get their system back into sane order. Another reason a software option to power off is useful - it cleans up

Re: GNOME 3.1.90 beta released!

2011-09-01 Thread Germán Póo-Caamaño
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 00:18 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Evandro Giovanini efgiovan...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657496 I hope we get some

Re: GNOME 3.1.90 beta released!

2011-09-01 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Germán Póo-Caamaño g...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 00:18 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On my laptop, I encounter enough hard lockups while testing software that the long-press behaviour of the power button is essential for me. I don't want to have