Support both gstreamer 0.10 and 1.0 for GNOME 3.6?

2012-07-28 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hey, I've been talking to some people at GUADEC about the gstreamer 0.10 to 1.0 transition and the issues it creates (especially for distributors), one of the outcome of those discussions is that it might be a good idea to ease the transition by supporting both versions for one cycle ... so

Re: Support both gstreamer 0.10 and 1.0 for GNOME 3.6?

2012-07-28 Thread Bastien Nocera
Hello Sébastien, Em Sat, 2012-07-28 às 10:20 +0200, Sebastien Bacher escreveu: Hey, I've been talking to some people at GUADEC about the gstreamer 0.10 to 1.0 transition and the issues it creates (especially for distributors), one of the outcome of those discussions is that it might be a

Re: compiler warnings, -Werror, etc.

2012-07-28 Thread Benjamin Otte
12345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890 Colin Walters walters at verbum.org writes: First, compiler warnings range widely in how important they are. Some of them, like -Wmissing-prototypes, are pretty much always indicative of a serious problem in

Re: popup menu

2012-07-28 Thread Luis Menina
Hi Jarett, Le 24/07/2012 17:17, Jarrett Chisholm a écrit : I'm looking to add a popup-menu to the frippery Bottom Panel extension. I want to have right-click open up a popup-menu (similar to how it would with menu panel items that are along the top of the screen). However, I'm having

Re: Support both gstreamer 0.10 and 1.0 for GNOME 3.6?

2012-07-28 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le 28/07/2012 14:15, Bastien Nocera a écrit : Hello Sébastien, Hey Bastien, The API changes are minimal, but: - The build changes are rather bigger, and adding options means more likely to break - The code will get harder to understand by the sheer number of tiny API changes, see for example:

Re: compiler warnings, -Werror, etc.

2012-07-28 Thread Colin Walters
Hi Benjamin, Thanks for responding! The reason I structured my original email as a question/proposal because I was interested in (ideally constructive) individual maintainer feedback. On Sat, 2012-07-28 at 12:58 +, Benjamin Otte wrote: I think the general consensus is that code that

Re: compiler warnings, -Werror, etc.

2012-07-28 Thread Dan Winship
On 07/28/2012 08:58 AM, Benjamin Otte wrote: Second, I don't think you are the right person to determine which warnings are or are not important. Apparently the GCC developers think otherwise and I frankly trust them more than I trust you. By that logic, you should never pass any extra -W

Re: compiler warnings, -Werror, etc.

2012-07-28 Thread David King
On 2012-07-27 21:18, Philip Withnall phi...@tecnocode.co.uk wrote: Furthermore, is there any reason why modules shouldn't be using GNOME_COMPILE_WARNINGS? It would be great if we could standardise on using it so that we can guarantee that the classes of bugs it detects are highlighted (and

Re: Support both gstreamer 0.10 and 1.0 for GNOME 3.6?

2012-07-28 Thread Tim-Philipp Müller
On Sat, 2012-07-28 at 14:15 +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote: Hi, The only big user is Empathy, and that's the only blocker really. (...) Backtracking now would probably be more costly, but might be necessary if Empathy cannot be ported. For what it's worth, Olivier says he'll look into that

Re: popup menu

2012-07-28 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Jarrett Chisholm jchish...@icebreakersent.com wrote: hi everyone, I'm looking to add a popup-menu to the frippery Bottom Panel extension. I want to have right-click open up a popup-menu (similar to how it would with menu panel items that are along the top of

Re: compiler warnings, -Werror, etc.

2012-07-28 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, 2012-07-28 at 16:16 +0100, David King wrote: On 2012-07-27 21:18, Philip Withnall phi...@tecnocode.co.uk wrote: Furthermore, is there any reason why modules shouldn't be using GNOME_COMPILE_WARNINGS? It would be great if we could standardise on using it so that we can guarantee that

Re: compiler warnings, -Werror, etc.

2012-07-28 Thread Benjamin Otte
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Dan Winship d...@gnome.org wrote: By that logic, you should never pass any extra -W options beyond -Wall either, since those warnings apparently aren't important. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_implication_%28rule_of_inference%29 is not invertible like

Re: compiler warnings, -Werror, etc.

2012-07-28 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 01:24:39PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: Not everything uses GNOME_COMPILE_WARNINGS, but that's not a big deal - my main goal here is to in order: 1) Convince module maintainers not to use -Wall -Werror In Mageia we either file bugs for -Werror, or the -Werror is