Re: Switching from Autotools to CMake for core evolution products

[Sébastien Wilmet]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 12:45:50PM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 12:57 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
> > Can you propose what the necessary change would be to:
> > 
> >  https://people.gnome.org/~walters/build-api/build-api.md
> 
> Well that document is Autotools-specific.

The build API is basically a subset of the GNU Coding Standards:
https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/index.html

(see chapter 7 The Release Process)

For downstreams, as Michael Biebl already said, it's much easier if all
modules can be built the same way. GNU has written a standard, but new
build systems don't follow it…

The GNU Coding Standards (GCS) has several decades of experience, the
standards are well established, and we can trust the GNU hackers for
having well conceived them. Those that don't follow them are devoted to
reinvent the wheel: they will be faced sooner or later by the same
problems already solved by the GCS and the Autotools.

--
Sébastien
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Re: Problems regarding jhbuild

[Michael Catanzaro]

On Tue, 2016-10-11 at 02:52 +0200, Jürg Billeter wrote:
> For bootstrapping, the dependency should be on valac, not on libvala.
> I'm not very familiar with jhbuild but what's the issue with a valac
> sysdep such as the following, similar to how the C compiler sysdep is
> handled?
> 
> 

Hi Jürg,

You're right, that should work fine. I'll add a bootstrap dependency.

Still, I discourage these regular .pc version bumps. If the API/ABI is
really completely unstable (which I doubt) then it would be better to
use soname versioning to manage that instead.

Michael
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Re: Which version of GTK+ for GNOME 3.24?

[Matthias Clasen]

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Jeremy Bicha  wrote:
> Will GNOME 3.24 target GTK+ 3.22 only or can we expect some modules to
> require the new GTK+ 3.90?

Speaking with my GTK+ maintainer hat on, we hope that at least some of
the core GNOME modules will use 3.90. We need the code to be used and
tested.
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Which version of GTK+ for GNOME 3.24?

[Jeremy Bicha]

Will GNOME 3.24 target GTK+ 3.22 only or can we expect some modules to
require the new GTK+ 3.90?

Thanks,
Jeremy Bicha
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Re: gnome-settings-daemon now split up

[Sasa Ostrouska]

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Bastien Nocera  wrote:

> Hey,
>
> gnome-settings-daemon 3.23.2 is now released. The major change is that
> instead of launching a single big daemon, gnome-session will now launch
> a number of smaller daemons.
>
> Eventually, those daemons will be started as needed (through timers, or
> D-Bus autostart) via systemd --user, as announced last cycle. For now,
> the changes should be safe to deploy on Linux and non-Linux platforms.
>
> Will it be pssible to use GSD without systemd ?

Rgds
Saxa


> Note that gnome-settings-daemon 3.23.2 requires gnome-session 3.23.2
> and is incompatible with older releases. The GNOME Classic session file
> has not been updated yet:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=772736
>
> Cheers
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Re: gnome-settings-daemon now split up

[Florian Müllner]

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Bastien Nocera  wrote:
>The GNOME Classic session file has not been updated yet

It has been updated on master now.
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gnome-settings-daemon now split up

[Bastien Nocera]

Hey,

gnome-settings-daemon 3.23.2 is now released. The major change is that
instead of launching a single big daemon, gnome-session will now launch
a number of smaller daemons.

Eventually, those daemons will be started as needed (through timers, or
D-Bus autostart) via systemd --user, as announced last cycle. For now,
the changes should be safe to deploy on Linux and non-Linux platforms.

Note that gnome-settings-daemon 3.23.2 requires gnome-session 3.23.2
and is incompatible with older releases. The GNOME Classic session file
has not been updated yet:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=772736

Cheers
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