Re: Dropping fallback mode in 3.8

2012-11-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On 21/11/12 20:11, David King wrote: However llvmpipe doesn't currently work on some architectures (ppc, s390, arm?--ARM (hf) works-shawnl) Debian is perhaps a useful source here, since we have more architectures than most (any?) other distributions. It seems we currently only build the

Re: Is gnome fully compliant with freedesktop sepc? Any know issues?

2013-01-18 Thread Simon McVittie
On 18/01/13 11:37, jupiter wrote: [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Version=1.0 Type=Application Terminal=false Exec=$HOME/MyApp Name=My Application Icon=$HOME/Icons/MyIcon.png As others have noted, the desktop-file spec doesn't have any special handling for $ in keys. It could be argued

Re: Announcement/RFC: jhbuild continuous integration testing -- mystery of recent flood of failures solved

2013-02-19 Thread Simon McVittie
On 18/02/13 22:34, Martin Pitt wrote: Please note that there is no system D-BUS and no default session D-BUS running. If you need those, then the tests should start dbus-launch or use GTestDBus. dbus-launch is not particularly suitable for regression tests: if you use it, you have to kill the

Re: Announcement/RFC: jhbuild continuous integration testing -- mystery of recent flood of failures solved

2013-02-19 Thread Simon McVittie
On 19/02/13 13:54, Tristan Van Berkom wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Simon McVittie simon.mcvit...@collabora.co.uk wrote: GTestDBus is IMO ideal for regression testing (or in-tree unit tests), I made a short write-up on this not long ago in my blog[0]. GTestDBus combines

Re: jhbuild continuous integration testing: status and plans

2013-03-08 Thread Simon McVittie
On 08/03/13 14:45, Colin Walters wrote: This gets back to something I want to figure out how to do, which is standardize metadata for tests (e.g. this test requires a public Internet connection, this test requires a logged in desktop session, this test requires root, etc.). It might be worth

Re: jhbuild continuous integration testing: status and plans

2013-03-11 Thread Simon McVittie
On 08/03/13 18:44, Colin Walters wrote: On Fri, 2013-03-08 at 18:02 +, Simon McVittie wrote: On 08/03/13 14:45, Colin Walters wrote: This gets back to something I want to figure out how to do, which is standardize metadata for tests (e.g. this test requires a public Internet connection

Re: New GnomeGoal proposal: InstalledTests

2013-04-25 Thread Simon McVittie
On 25/04/13 15:45, Colin Walters wrote: Though you've got me thinking: maybe instead of the /usr/bin/foo-installed-test naming scheme, we should have /usr/share/installed-tests/foo.desktop. Desktop files by their nature already: 1) Are what we use to launch binaries 2) Have metadata I

Re: New GnomeGoal proposal: InstalledTests

2013-04-26 Thread Simon McVittie
On 26/04/13 15:12, Colin Walters wrote: On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 08:46 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: You are not going to get me to buy eagerly into a new installed tests scheme for glib if it means that I have to give up make check. I think it's worth having both, with the majority of tests

Re: New GnomeGoal proposal: InstalledTests

2013-04-26 Thread Simon McVittie
On 26/04/13 18:26, Tristan Van Berkom wrote: Not to mention, build mechanisms generally use tarballs and prefer them If the tarballs produced by cgit become the recommended thing for tarball-based build systems to consume - perhaps by having a branch off to one side that does contain the

Re: non-local D-Bus (was: New libgtop maintainer)

2013-08-19 Thread Simon McVittie
On 11/08/13 12:46, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: I think we've said that remote DBus is possible, but would take a considerable amount of work to actually get working. Cross-posting to dbus@ for this reply since I don't think we've really written this down anywhere. Here is my opinion on remote

Re: New libgtop maintainer

2013-08-19 Thread Simon McVittie
On 11/08/13 13:20, Maciej Piechotka wrote: As a question - what about timeouts? Usually gnome-system-monitor is useful when there is heavy I/O, CPU usage or swapping and in such cases dbus timeouts can and do happen. During system bus service activation (the first time the system service is

Re: GNOME keyring unlocking

2013-10-10 Thread Simon McVittie
On 10/10/13 11:13, p10 wrote: autologin doesn't unlock the keyring . I think I understand more or less why that's happening The reason is: libpam-gnome-keyring needs your password to decrypt the keyring. Without your password, it just doesn't have enough information. Now my first question is

Re: GNOME keyring unlocking

2013-10-10 Thread Simon McVittie
On 10/10/13 18:12, p10 wrote: That's my current security setup - a user account that I use for everything , and 'su' into root with a password I don't keep stored anywhere If you type your root password into a gnome-terminal running with user privileges, a shell running with user privileges,

Re: 3.12 feature: polari

2013-10-11 Thread Simon McVittie
On 11/10/13 10:25, Ross Burton wrote: On 11 October 2013 10:21, David Woodhouse dw...@infradead.org mailto:dw...@infradead.org wrote: Why stop at IRC? Given that the engine is Telepathy, we could use it for named rooms on any protocol, like XMPP MUCs for instance. Is there

Re: DBus session services and logging

2013-11-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On 21/11/13 20:18, Colin Walters wrote: Since https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68559 ... which is in D-Bus 1.7.x, the development branch, but not in 1.6.x, the stable branch. This might be a good time to say: if you are shipping that branch in something that will become a stable

Re: Hooking up gnome-session with dbus/kdbus/systemd

2014-01-21 Thread Simon McVittie
On 21/01/14 19:22, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 21.01.14 19:49, Giovanni Campagna (scampa.giova...@gmail.com) wrote: This won't work, because the Exec line from .service has a different purpose than the Exec line from .desktop: the first runs the service, the second activates the

Re: Fix wrong FSF's address in in source files

2014-01-31 Thread Simon McVittie
On 31/01/14 15:19, Daniel Mustieles García wrote: Sorry for the broken patches. They have been auto-generated and was suposed not to break files. If you're considering a patch, please look at the diff (e.g. git show --color, or commit using git gui or something) before sending it anywhere, and

Re: system dbus and Desktop notifications

2014-06-23 Thread Simon McVittie
On 22/06/14 19:31, Rolf Fokkens wrote: For a udev driven backup script (connect the USB the disk, and the backup starts) I'd like to have desktop notifications that say when the backup starts and when the backup is finished so users can disconnect the USB disk. Consider, for instance: *

Re: system Desktop notifications

2014-06-24 Thread Simon McVittie
On 23/06/14 22:10, Rolf Fokkens wrote: Let me refrase my question: Wouldn't it be useful that some system related messages (backups, SMART...) are presented to whom it concerns? I'm sure it would, and I don't oppose someone designing and implementing it; but I don't think the D-Bus session bus

Re: Standardizing the way licenses information is shipped in tarballs

2014-09-02 Thread Simon McVittie
On 02/09/14 16:15, Pacho Ramos wrote: We agree that would be really useful to standardize a place where downstreams can check for the LICENSES of files shipped in tarball to prevent confusions and to ensure all downstreams have proper licensing information What do you think? My experience

Re: Gnome / systemd

2015-01-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On 12/01/15 17:14, Patrick Erdmann wrote: I don't say logind is bad. If logind would be useable withoud systemd it would be ok for me. It is. https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/systemd-shim (I don't think systemd-shim is necessarily a good idea; but it exists, it works, and current Ubuntu relies

Re: Discouraging use of sync APIs

2015-02-11 Thread Simon McVittie
(and I don't think directories are either). -- Simon McVittie Collabora Ltd. http://www.collabora.com/ ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Installing DBus interface files for services

2015-01-13 Thread Simon McVittie
On 13/01/15 08:08, Philip Withnall wrote: On Tue, 2015-01-13 at 10:43 +0800, Cosimo Cecchi wrote: I was wondering if there's any reason we typically don't install on the system DBus XML interface files for services. On my system, I can see a bunch of definitions in

Re: How do you hack on GNOME? How can we do better?

2015-07-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On 21/07/15 19:45, Owen Taylor wrote: On Tue, 2015-07-21 at 12:22 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: VMs do have the advantage that they are definitely a trust boundary: running a branch of some component in a VM does not require you to trust that branch with all your data, credentials and so

Re: How do you hack on GNOME? How can we do better?

2015-07-21 Thread Simon McVittie
limitations that make it unsuitable for many GNOME developers, though: I'm lucky in that I mostly work on plumbing and OS-building rather than hardware integration. -- Simon McVittie Collabora Ltd. http://www.collabora.com/ ___ desktop-devel-list mailing

Re: GNOME 3.20 targetting grilo 0.3 (master)

2015-10-26 Thread Simon McVittie
edesktop.org Bugzilla. I know that it can compile and work with Python 3, because Debian's packaging for dbus-python provides Python 2 and 3 binaries (python-dbus and python3-dbus respectively). -- Simon McVittie Collabora Ltd. <http://www.collabora.com/>

Re: Changing gnome-love to newcomers

2015-09-08 Thread Simon McVittie
y no means GNOME-specific. -- Simon McVittie Collabora Ltd. <http://www.collabora.com/> ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Application id, XDG App, and you.

2016-02-04 Thread Simon McVittie
mething like: > > [Desktop Entry] > AliasFor=org.gnome.clocks.desktop Or maybe org.gnome.clocks.desktop could grow a key Aliases=gnome-clocks.desktop; or something? This seems like something to take to the xdg (not -app) mailing list and the main Desktop Entry Specification document

Re: Build sheriffs for GNOME

2016-01-22 Thread Simon McVittie
query=adt-virt-qemu -- Simon McVittie Collabora Ltd. <http://www.collabora.com/> ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Application id, XDG App, and you.

2016-02-02 Thread Simon McVittie
t for application IDs or D-Bus names, they should probably be called something like com.example.awesome_apps.MyApp. -- Simon McVittie Collabora Ltd. <http://www.collabora.com/> ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org htt

Re: Including content ratings in games

2016-03-09 Thread Simon McVittie
On 09/03/16 13:57, Richard Hughes wrote: > Sorry for the potentially off-topic posting. I've been working on a > new content rating system called OARS. Here's an earlier attempt at the same thing, which if I remember correctly was led by Miriam Ruiz of the Debian games team:

Re: Collaboration on standard Wayland protocol extensions

2016-03-31 Thread Simon McVittie
re specifically designed to do this. A Wayland equivalent of D-Bus' GetConnectionCredentials() would probably be useful. S -- Simon McVittie Collabora Ltd. <http://www.collabora.com/> ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel

Re: gnome-session logging

2016-05-20 Thread Simon McVittie
start application started by gnome-session.) > additionally the logs in the journal are > filed under two different "tags", one is "gnome-session" and another is > "gnome-session-binary". Anything in the GNOME session that opens its own logging stream will get a sep

Re: Clarification on license of gdbus-codegen generated code

2017-03-27 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 at 20:52:45 +0200, Jens Georg wrote: > * Generated by gdbus-codegen %s. DO NOT EDIT. > * > * The license of this code is the same as for the source it was derived > from. > > I'm looking for a clarification on the term "source" here. Is it the > XML D-Bus interface

Re: GNOME Logo Licensing

2017-03-13 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 at 00:52:25 +, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > There has been many instances of us protecting our brand by asking people to > stop using our logo for commercial purposes, CC-BY-SA/LGPLv3 does grant > precisely the right to use it commercially. There are two things a third party

Re: GNOME goal candidates

2017-03-01 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 01 Mar 2017 at 10:22:56 +, Philip Withnall wrote: > • installed-tests allows reverse-dependency testing: find test > failures from new versions of libraries your project depends on, > without having to rebuild your project (useful in a CI environment) This is particularly interesting

Re: Application name strings consistency

2017-09-04 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 02 Sep 2017 at 12:01:32 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > This has annoyed me for a while. > > On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Alexandre Franke wrote: > > * Maps appears as GNOME Maps in Software, Maps in about dialog > > * Clocks appears as GNOME Clocks in Software,

Re: GitHub mirror creates contribution problems

2017-09-05 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 at 13:33:44 +, Alberto Fanjul Alonso wrote: > Anyway a README.md is available in our projects and is the default for github > (and people used to github). Maybe a simple automatic rebase on master po f a > README.md (and if you want a mirror-master branch as tip on github)

Re: Google Hangouts support

2017-10-18 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 at 11:42:40 +0300, pec...@gmail.com wrote: > Is there any interest/desire to see Google Hangouts support in Empathy and > Telepathy? Or as Telepathy is on it's way out it is no interest? Telepathy can't have Google Hangouts support unless someone reverse-engineers the protocol

Re: Google Hangouts support

2017-10-18 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 at 08:52:55 -0700, Diane Trout wrote: > > The general migration of user-base from open protocols (XMPP, SIP) > > to proprietary protocols with no good open-source implementation, but > > broad enough browser support that nobody has a very compelling reason > > to do the

Re: All stable flatpak builds moved to flathub

2017-11-13 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 at 12:11:04 +0100, Alexandre Franke wrote: > On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Alexander Larsson wrote: > > The goal of flathub (https://flathub.org/) is to be a single location > > where you can find builds of the latest stable version of linux desktop > >

Re: gjs 1.51.2

2017-11-14 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 at 03:20:12 +, philip.chime...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:41 AM Michael Catanzaro > wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Philip Chimento > wrote: > > From now on we'll be

Re: evolution-data-server D-Bus service version change in 3.29.3

2018-06-08 Thread Simon McVittie
On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 at 09:03:26 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > this is a little heads-up that evolution-data-server 3.29.3 release > will contain a D-Bus service version change, specifically >org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Sources5 > changes to >org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Sources6 > >

Re: Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-15 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 at 10:39:39 +, Bob Ham wrote: > My colleague François Téchené recently wrote a blog post³ proposing a > unified UX using a "feature"-based approach rather than an > application-based approach. This proposal comes from the ideas of > Ethical Design⁴. The technological

Re: Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-19 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 at 12:18:30 +, Bob Ham wrote: > On 15/03/18 19:13, Simon McVittie wrote: > > the hard division between one-to-one > > messages and chatrooms in XMPP is unlike the variable-number-of-users > > "switchboards" in the now-defunct MSNP.) >

Re: Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-21 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 at 11:43:09 +, Bob Ham wrote: > On 19/03/18 13:27, Simon McVittie wrote: > > There's no way we could have designed this correctly in Telepathy without > > being aware of protocol quirks like these, and indeed this API wasn't > > present in our first a

Re: Python 2 support in GNOME build tools

2018-07-12 Thread Simon McVittie via desktop-devel-list
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 at 09:29:26 +0200, Christoph Reiter via desktop-devel-list wrote: > we currently do support Python 2 and 3 for things like gobject-introspection > and glib scripts etc. and while I don't see any problem with continuing that > support I'd like to know why we still need to

Re: Deprecating nautilus-sendto

2019-04-19 Thread Simon McVittie via desktop-devel-list
On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 13:56:10 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > You could but I would not recommend using xdg-email if your application > will be used outside of a Flatpak because it will end up running this > code: > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-utils/blob/master/scripts/xdg-email.in >

Re: GJS Docs now Hosted on gnome.org

2019-07-22 Thread Simon McVittie via desktop-devel-list
On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 at 12:21:32 +0300, Anastasios Lisgaras via desktop-devel-list wrote: > I have tried these commands ( on my system > - Debian GNU/Linux 9.9 (stretch), GNOME Shell 3.22.3 - ) and I do not > get any results : > ``` > gjs -v > Failed to open file '-v': No such file or directory >

Re: How to detect a gtk desktop programmatically

2020-04-30 Thread Simon McVittie via desktop-devel-list
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 at 15:27:02 -0400, Tres Finocchiaro via desktop-devel-list wrote: > For reference, the commit which introduced this change: > [1]https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-session/commit/ > 00e0e6226371d53f651cc881e74c0543192c94a8# > 5b3005b925ed5c2612a9604ad3c756b1f9472165 > >