Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2020-06-16 Thread Frederic Peters
Bastien Nocera wrote: > I haven't looked at library-web because I have a whole bunch of work > that I'd need to do with it, but not the bandwidth... I pushed an untested minimal change. Fred ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Re: How to manually update https://help.gnome.org/users/$PROJECT?

2019-10-02 Thread Frederic Peters
Milan Crha wrote: > I'm not sure whether this is the right list for this, thus I'm sorry if > it's not. Feel free to redirect me to the right place. gnome-doc-list@ would be the right place, especially as there are plans to redo help.gnome.org. (ditto for developer.gnome.org). > I'd like to

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-06 Thread Frederic Peters
Bastien Nocera wrote: > - How? > > It is possible to rename the "master" branch in git. It's also possible > to add a "link" of sorts so that software that specifically references > "master" can be made to work with the new name[5]. I checked and there is an hardcoded reference (git) master

Re: Let's kill gnome-common!

2018-02-13 Thread Frederic Peters
Milan Crha wrote: > On Tue, 2018-02-13 at 11:19 +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > > Work is in progress to let maintainers upload tarballs with the > > generate API reference for developer.gnome.org > > Hi, > okay, how is that supposed to work in general? As Meson builds out of > the source

Re: Let's kill gnome-common!

2018-02-13 Thread Frederic Peters
Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > > I do not want to steal the thread, but when talking about ports to > > Meson, would it make sense to finally fix the infrastructure to work > > with other than automake files too [1]? It's when generating the > > content for developer.|help.gnome.org. Considering that

Re: developer.gnome.org and meson

2017-08-09 Thread Frederic Peters
mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > developer.gnome.org is going to have some problems because for meson modules > 'ninja dist' does not include generated gtk-doc files in the tarball. At > least one maintainer is working around this by manually generating tarballs > with gtk-doc included instead of

GNOME 3.21.90 beta tarballs

2016-08-15 Thread Frederic Peters
Hello all, This is still GUADEC but we'd really like to have 3.21.90 tarballs this week, the earlier the better, especially since a notable serie of modules didn't get 3.21.x releases yet. Thanks, Fred ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Re: Keep shipping also generated gtk-doc html/ folder?

2016-06-23 Thread Frederic Peters
Milan Crha wrote: > On Thu, 2016-06-23 at 09:55 +0100, Philip Withnall wrote: > > If I remember correctly, it’s so that the tarballs can be unpacked to > > give documentation on developer.gnome.org without having to build > > anything. Actually gtk-doc did ship the generated files in the

GNOME 3.19.2 released

2015-11-27 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi! The second snapshot of GNOME 3.19 is now available, it incorporates updates from 3.18.2 as well as quite a serie of edgier modules. To compile GNOME 3.19.2, you can use the jhbuild [1] modulesets [2] (which use the exact tarball versions from the official release). [1]

Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]

2015-11-26 Thread Frederic Peters
Philip Withnall wrote: > > This was mostly done manually (at least as far I am concerned), but > > here is an experiment, > >   https://people.gnome.org/~fpeters/health/wanted-releases.html > > > > And the red modules are first targets. > > > > (this has been generated from my local clones,

Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]

2015-11-25 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi, Philip Withnall wrote: > On Wed, 2015-11-25 at 11:07 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote: > > I'm a bit surprised by 1) but we could certainly automatically > > produce > > a list of maintainers / modules/ time/commits since last release, if > > that could be useful. >

Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]

2015-11-25 Thread Frederic Peters
Bastien Nocera wrote: > > It's been some months we have those reminder emails sent to > > devel-announce-list.  Maintainers, make sure you are subscribed. > > > > Maintainers (bis), please do try to respect the Monday 23:59 UTC > > deadline, it's really not fun to chase maintainers for days

Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]

2015-11-24 Thread Frederic Peters
Shaun McCance wrote: > Question: If I don't intend to make a release because there haven't been > any changes, do you want me to send an email saying so? Nope, that's already something we check before chasing people :) And while it's important to get stable releases out when the only changes

Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]

2015-11-24 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi! > Tarballs are due on 2015-11-23 before 23:59 UTC for the GNOME 3.19.2 > unstable release, which will be delivered on Wednesday. Modules which > were proposed for inclusion should try to follow the unstable schedule > so everyone can test them. Please make sure that your tarballs will > be

GNOME 3.17.92 Release Candidate

2015-09-17 Thread Frederic Peters
Hello all, Here we are, this is the end of this development cycle and here comes a release candidate for you to download, build, and test. Enjoy it as fast as you can, the final release is scheduled next Wednesday. To compile GNOME 3.17.92, you can use the jhbuild modulesets published by the

Re: How do you hack on GNOME? How can we do better?

2015-07-22 Thread Frederic Peters
Michael Catanzaro wrote: 3) Hacking on session level components (gnome-session, gnome-shell, gnome-settings-daemon), and the libraries they use (gnome-desktop, clutter) [...] Do you log into a jhbuild session? as yourself? as a test user? I used to do 3 on rare occasions, but

GNOME 3.17.3 released

2015-06-25 Thread Frederic Peters
Hey all, The development of the next GNOME release, 3.17, is going on and a new snapshot, 3.17.3, is now available. Give it a shot! Some of us will gather in San Francisco next week for the West Coast Summit 2015, and a month later we will all gather for GUADEC in Gothenburg, Sweden (no

Re: GNOME Software and fwupd

2015-04-20 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi Richard Richard Hughes wrote: I've just merged a patch to gnome-software which adds an optional (but default enabled) dependency on fwupd[1]. The fwupd project just provides a DBus interface for applying low-level firmware to various types of devices. I don't know if this makes sense

TARBALLS DUE: 3.16.1

2015-04-13 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi! You've all seen the automated mail posted to devel-announce-list@, here's another one to remind you that tarballs for 3.16.1 are due today. Thanks! Fred ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org

Re: GNOME 3.15.92 Release Candidate

2015-03-18 Thread Frederic Peters
Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org wrote: Hello all, We have now reached the end of the development cycle and here comes a release candidate for you to download, build, and test. Enjoy it as fast as you can, the final release

GNOME 3.15.92 Release Candidate

2015-03-18 Thread Frederic Peters
Hello all, We have now reached the end of the development cycle and here comes a release candidate for you to download, build, and test. Enjoy it as fast as you can, the final release is scheduled next Wednesday. To compile GNOME 3.15.92, you can use the jhbuild modulesets published by the

TARBALLS DUE: 3.15.92

2015-03-16 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi! Tarballs are due on 2015-03-16 before 23:59 UTC for the GNOME 3.15.92 rc release, which will be delivered on Wednesday. [...] Please do your best to keep this Monday deadline, it really helps the work of the release team. Thank you all! Fred

Re: Canonical jhbuild documentation

2015-02-12 Thread Frederic Peters
Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote: https://wiki.gnome.org/HowDoI/Jhbuild is the one that seems to be preferred by most docs newcomers and team members so from my point of view it would be good that the final result resembles it and works just as well. Also jhbuild has been absorbing good practices

Re: Canonical jhbuild documentation

2015-02-11 Thread Frederic Peters
Germán Poo-Caamaño wrote: IMHO, the jhbuild documentation is more like a reference manual, whereas the information for newcomers is like a tutorial (or expected to be). Indeed it's mostly like that at the moment. Maybe both could be in the same documentation/place, but the separation

Re: Canonical jhbuild documentation

2015-02-11 Thread Frederic Peters
Allan Day wrote: It would be nice if somebody could contact the authors: James Henstridge james at jamesh.id.au C.J. Adams-Collier cjcollier at colliertech.org Frederic Peters (ok, done) David Turner (Cillian64, from GHOP, back in 2007/2008, I can't find

Re: Canonical jhbuild documentation

2015-02-10 Thread Frederic Peters
Frederic Peters (ok, done) David Turner (Cillian64, from GHOP, back in 2007/2008, I can't find an email) Btw the draft integration/conversion is still available at: https://people.gnome.org/~fpeters/jhbuild-mallard/ Fred

Re: Canonical jhbuild documentation

2015-02-10 Thread Frederic Peters
Sébastien Wilmet wrote: Hi, On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:27:11AM -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Problem: we have many pages on jhbuild documentation Let's list them: 1. https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Jhbuild 2. https://developer.gnome.org/jhbuild/unstable/ 3.

Tarballs for GNOME 3.15.4

2015-01-18 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi! We are releasing 3.15.4 this week, deadline for tarballs is today, please get them uploaded on time so we can correctly prepare the first release of the year. If you cannot make it, please send a mail to the release team to discuss delays or find someone to roll a tarball. Thanks!

Re: System services jhbuild

2014-09-08 Thread Frederic Peters
Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) zeesha...@gnome.org wrote: Unless someone has plans on fixing this (somehow) soon, I would suggest we either kick out all system services from jhbuild all together or at least remove them from dependency list

Re: Developer Docs Roadmap [was Re: Glade release to include GtkHeaderBar?]

2014-09-06 Thread Frederic Peters
I wrote: There are a few outstanding bugs (old development versions are pruned from the index files but not from the server, and are getting indexed by Google), [...] That particular bug has now been fixed, old development versions are now properly removed from the server; however I don't

Re: Merge eBooks support in gnome-documents (was Re: New feature proposals period start)

2014-09-06 Thread Frederic Peters
Bastien Nocera wrote: Here goes with a first proposal, I'd like to be able to merge: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=704316 This would add a new application to the GNOME release. It's all dependent on Marta providing a viewer widget, though the libgepub[1] maintainer is

Re: Developer Docs Roadmap [was Re: Glade release to include GtkHeaderBar?]

2014-09-05 Thread Frederic Peters
Allan Day wrote: One of the reasons why I wanted to have this conversation is to find out if there are any third party solutions that we could use, rather than having to write and maintain our own site from scratch? Is Read the Docs [1] an option? It's a first look from that perspective,

Re: Developer Docs Roadmap [was Re: Glade release to include GtkHeaderBar?]

2014-09-05 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi Shaun, How much maintenance burden is there for the general infrastructure of library-web, versus the burden of the various converters and such that we'd have to deal with anyway if plugging them into another system? There's not much maintenance required, for example new modules are

Re: Developer Docs Roadmap [was Re: Glade release to include GtkHeaderBar?]

2014-09-04 Thread Frederic Peters
Allan Day wrote: However, before we go down that route, it seems like we should at least discuss whether library-web is the best option going forward. It I would tend to put goals before technical details, but library-web as it is nowadays is certainly not the best option; I addressed a few of

Re: Developer Docs Roadmap [was Re: Glade release to include GtkHeaderBar?]

2014-09-04 Thread Frederic Peters
Jasper St. Pierre wrote: While I'm sure a dynamic site would be a great idea in the far future, are there any small, actionable goals we can make for this? We all dream of a great docs scenario, but we never properly plan for it. What small wins can we get today, right now, to improve the

TARBALLS DUE: 3.13.2.

2014-05-26 Thread Frederic Peters
Hello all, Maybe this went unnoticed but we (release team) published the schedule for 3.13 a few weeks ago, it's at https://wiki.gnome.org/Schedule. And guess what? We expect tarballs today; in the words of our usual emails: Tarballs are due on 2014-05-26 before 23:59 UTC for the GNOME

TARBALLS DUE: 3.12.2

2014-05-11 Thread Frederic Peters
Hello all, Now is the time for a new update to our stable release, this is 3.12.2. Tarballs are due on 2014-05-12 before 23:59 UTC for the GNOME 3.12.2 stable release, which will be delivered on Wednesday. Modules which were proposed for inclusion should try to follow the unstable

TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 3.12.1

2014-04-11 Thread Frederic Peters
Hello all, Isn't running 3.12 sweet? Did you see the comments? Christian Schaller collected some, full of superlatives, have a look: http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2014/04/02/gnome-3-12-release-comments/ But it doesn't end there, the new step is the 3.12.1 update release, and we need tarballs

TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 3.12.0

2014-03-22 Thread Frederic Peters
Hello all, With 3.11.92 out, it's time for 3.12.0 tarballs. Let the translations flow into your modules then get your tarballs out. Tarballs are due on 2014-03-24 before 23:59 UTC for the GNOME 3.12.0 newstable release, which will be delivered on Wednesday. Modules which were proposed for

TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 3.11.92 release candidate + HARD CODE FREEZE

2014-03-14 Thread Frederic Peters
Hey all, Here comes the 3.11.92 release candidate, last stop before 3.12. Tarballs are expected on Monday, this is the last chance to get your fixes in, we will then enter the hard code freeze, and you will need a big bunch of approvals to get changes in. Let's repeat, tarballs are due on

Re: Python Docs (was Re: Coordination for developer documentations)

2014-03-10 Thread Frederic Peters
Stefan Sauer wrote: On 03/08/2014 06:15 PM, Christoph Reiter wrote: I've tried the devhelp export and it seemed to work quite well for the all in one API docs. But I'm not sure how linking between different Sphinx builds would work with devhelp. (but I have no idea how devhelp does it

Re: Announce: Gjs documentation almost ready!

2014-03-04 Thread Frederic Peters
Giovanni Campagna wrote: 1) are there plans to get this into devhelp? We need to figure a namespace scheme for binding docs. The devhelp app itself already understands different languages. All we need is a index file like the ones gtk-doc generates. No, there are no plans to get this

Coordination for developer documentations

2014-03-04 Thread Frederic Peters
Hey, It's been proved again in recent hackfests, we have a really great team writing user documentations, and thanks have to be given to Shaun, and now Kat, for coordinating the effort. On the other hand we have absolutely no coordination for developer docs, I maintain developer.gnome.org with

Re: Coordination for developer documentations

2014-03-04 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi Allan, Allan Day wrote: So, are you interested? It would help to know a bit more about what you think this coordination role would involve. Are you concerned with keeping technical changes in step, for example, or is it more the content in our hand written documentation that we need to

TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 3.11.5

2014-02-01 Thread Frederic Peters
Hello all, It's FOSDEM weekend, if you're there, come and say hi! to the GNOME booth. Tomorrow, after you safely got home, it will be time to roll some tarballs for 3.11.5. You know the drill: Tarballs are due on 2014-02-03 before 23:59 UTC for the GNOME 3.11.5 unstable release, which will

Re: Fix wrong FSF's address in in source files

2014-01-29 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi Daniel, devhelp I didn't find a bug report for this one, please do file one and I'll have a look. jhbuild https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721532 feel free to attach a patch and it will be quickly reviewed. Fred ___

TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 3.11.4 due on Monday January 13th

2014-01-11 Thread Frederic Peters
Hello all, The work towards 3.12 continues in 2014, this is the first call for tarballs this year, happy new year! Tarballs are due on 2014-01-13 before 23:59 UTC for the GNOME 3.11.4 unstable release, which will be delivered on Wednesday. Modules which were proposed for inclusion should try to

GNOME 3.12 Schedule and 3.11.1 tarballs call

2013-10-25 Thread Frederic Peters
Hello all, I just published our schedule for 3.11/3.12 on our wiki, it's available at: https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointEleven, tarballs for next release, the opening of the 3.11 cycle, are expected on Monday. Fred [An ics file is also available:

3.10.1 coming up!

2013-10-15 Thread Frederic Peters
Hey all, It was not announced with the usual template but we need your tarballs for 3.10.1, Matthias Clasen wrote: After catching our breath for a while, and enjoying 3.10.0, now it is time to put out a 3.10.1 release to fix annoyances and bugs that have come up since 3.10.0. I have marked a

Re: Opening the 3.12 cycle

2013-09-24 Thread Frederic Peters
Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: But apparently its the only free OS worth caring about. I think Jasper was asking about distros as I'm pretty sure he is well aware that systemd doesn't run on an archaic OSs, such as FreeBSD. No need to be insulting. Fred

Re: Opening the 3.12 cycle

2013-09-23 Thread Frederic Peters
Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 09:09 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: I think that would be a great idea - could you set up the goal wiki page and link it from the gnome-software feature ? The goal should include that all appdata is marked for translation. This could also come

Re: Passive resistance [was: Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror]

2013-08-16 Thread Frederic Peters
Jasper St. Pierre wrote: If you're not happy with that, we can certainly bring it up to the board and talk about it, but from how I see things, I don't think we'll remove GNOME Online Accounts integration or stop our Twitter marketing campaigns. So, I'm saying that if you're not happy with

Re: A first look at 3.10 blockers

2013-08-13 Thread Frederic Peters
Thanks Matthias for starting this. Related to system status rework: - 705647 gnome-shell New System Status design lost the ability to suspend 705733 gnome-shell Make new system status implementation respect the always-show-universal-access-status

Re: git submodules vs translators

2013-06-28 Thread Frederic Peters
Colin Walters wrote: Any other thoughts? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=599066 is the request by translators to be able to auto-commit files from damned lies, from 2009. It would help here. Fred ___ desktop-devel-list mailing

Re: jhbuild: better defaults

2013-05-23 Thread Frederic Peters
Thomas H.P. Andersen wrote: Are there non-bikeshed reasons not to do this? Are there things that will break so bad that the cost outweigh the benefit? Patch welcome; but do mind this comment: The only slightly tricky thing about this I see is detecting the case where the user was actually

Re: GNOME goal for 3.8: Python 3 -- impact for pygobject itself

2012-11-05 Thread Frederic Peters
Colin Walters wrote: The whole thing is just so horrible...Python upstream should have just accepted they made a different (but closely related) programming language and said python is always python2, and python3 is 3, or they should have made a python2 symlink upstream for the old branch, so

Re: Requiring systemd for the gnome-settings-daemon power plugin

2012-10-24 Thread Frederic Peters
William Jon McCann wrote: I agree with you that we need to have a motive to change and that costs should be weighed carefully. We can make the case. The objection Colin expressed was about the method; and on that matter, frankly, we are making a good job in alienating active members of our

Re: Requiring systemd for the gnome-settings-daemon power plugin

2012-10-22 Thread Frederic Peters
Bastien Nocera wrote: Additionally, and separately, support for ConsoleKit usage for session-tracking will be removed. This is now pushed to master for 3.7.1. Well, this all happened a few days before the release deadline, this is not easy matter, we have a release team meeting this

Re: Blocker bug status

2012-09-17 Thread Frederic Peters
Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: 683354 Port to new documentation infrastructure AFAIK, there is a fair concern on this because of the potential impact on translations: shaunm I'm tempted to just say push it, and if there's anything wrong I'll catch it making a release shaunm but I'm a little

GNOME 3.6 Blocker Report (T-16d)

2012-09-08 Thread Frederic Peters
Hello all, We are now well frozen, it's more than time for a new blocker report; have a look at the list below and do note the list below is not necessarily complete. Feedback, updates, help from packagers, developers, maintainers, contributors, etc. is welcome. Please do speak up if some

String Freeze

2012-09-05 Thread Frederic Peters
Hello all, The string freeze has set in, no string changes may be made without confirmation from the i18n team and notification to release team, translation team, and documentation team. From this point, developers should concentrate on stability and bug-fixing. Translators can work without

Re: jhbuild update required

2012-09-05 Thread Frederic Peters
Colin Walters wrote: On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 15:13 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Could we get a new jhbuild release then? Some distributions (Debian, Ubuntu, openSUSE) have jhbuild packaged in their repositories.

Re: Recommended office suite?

2012-09-03 Thread Frederic Peters
Mattias Eriksson wrote: I noticed that the Gnome Ubuntu flavor will not ship libreoffice, but instead only ship Abiword and Gnumeric. I was surprised by this, since I think libreoffice is the best office suite for linux and it has quite good gnome integration. The motivation for this is that

relative URLs for git submodules

2012-08-29 Thread Frederic Peters
Hello, Several GNOME modules have started using git submodules, for example there is empathy, using egg-list-box: [submodule libempathy-gtk/egg-list-box] path = libempathy-gtk/egg-list-box url = git://git.gnome.org/egg-list-box This works fine, with proper calls to git submodule init

Re: compiler warnings, -Werror, etc.

2012-07-27 Thread Frederic Peters
Colin Walters wrote: For compiler warning defaults, I think something similar what Dan Winship has in libsoup is what we should replicate across more GNOME modules: http://git.gnome.org/browse/libsoup/tree/configure.ac?id=f5902fce98ae0314f0d9ca6e544895548c94a456#n339 It's better than the

Re: libsecret migration

2012-06-27 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi Stef, On 06/27/2012 06:56 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 06:49:13PM +0200, Stef Walter wrote: http://people.gnome.org/~stefw/libsecret-docs/c-examples.html Please have that put on http://library.gnome.org. Yes, that's something I need to do. Do you know where I

Re: 3.6 Feature: IBus/XKB integration

2012-05-13 Thread Frederic Peters
Tomas Frydrych wrote: Rather a long discussion over IBus, but it seems to more or less boil down to two voices and this: Gnome developers: we want tighter IM integration and simpler UI in the name of better UX, and are looking at IBus as the underlying technology, Users: IBus has poor

Re: 3.6 Feature: IBus/XKB integration

2012-05-12 Thread Frederic Peters
Jasper St. Pierre wrote: We only have the development resources to ship one input method. It's going to need special code to integrate with Clutter and the St toolkit. If IBus is bad right now, we need to fix it. Or use fcitx instead of IBus? I honestly do not know the topic, but I read the

Re: 3.6 Feature: IBus/XKB integration

2012-04-25 Thread Frederic Peters
Bastien Nocera wrote: I don't know of a physical keyboard layout that has a Compose key. So are we just deciding that one of the keys will always behave differently than the printed keycap? I suppose if you use a modifier key (R_Alt seems popular) then it can still function as a

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-25 Thread Frederic Peters
Seif Lotfy wrote: So I would still like to have my question answered. How is the policy on using Zeitgeist for non-feature and non-UX related optimization and maintenance distribution? Do note this was not discussed by the release team, we'll have a meeting soon and we can add that to the

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Frederic Peters
Shaun McCance wrote: Your previous email seems to indicate that the features for 3.6 are already a foregone conclusion, and that Zeitgeist doesn't fit into that. But that just can't be, because WE the GNOME community decide what's in the next version right here on d-d-l during the proposal

Re: Prevent screen from going to sleep

2012-03-01 Thread Frederic Peters
Emmanuele Bassi wrote: On 1 March 2012 09:24, Marco net...@lavabit.com wrote: Any application which e.g. plays a movie can block the screen from turning off. When I  watch movies in VLC  the screen is still  switched off after ten minutes. Preferences → Advanced  → “Inhibit the power

Re: udisks2 [WAS: Re: datetime: Remove datetime D-Bus mechanism]

2012-01-23 Thread Frederic Peters
David Zeuthen wrote: @David: could you confirm this? And do you have any ETA for a udisks2 tarball? There is one at http://udisks.freedesktop.org/releases/ http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/udisks still points to http://hal.freedesktop.org/releases/, could you update that page?

Re: [gnome-settings-daemon] datetime: Remove datetime D-Bus mechanism

2012-01-23 Thread Frederic Peters
Bastien Nocera wrote: And have a Provides: systemd-services in the systemd RPM. The problem isn't exactly insurmontable. Of course it's not insurmontable, but this thread came to be more about proper communication than technical solutions. So far we had 1) the update of the portability

udisks2 [WAS: Re: datetime: Remove datetime D-Bus mechanism]

2012-01-21 Thread Frederic Peters
Johannes Schmid wrote: Short note: I removed the udisks and upower rows as they don't follow the system of showing the part of GNOME using some technologie. Instead those are referred to by the gnome-disk-utility and gnome-control-center/power rows which is IMHO the correct way. Speaking of

Re: libwacom dep

2011-12-16 Thread Frederic Peters
Hey Bastien, FYI, moved the git repo to be under the linuxwacom project in sourceforge (one of the few still there I guess, updated in ), and made a tarball release: https://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxwacom/files/libwacom/ It's (technically) required for modules that are defined as coming

Re: Boxes and 3.4

2011-12-01 Thread Frederic Peters
Jason D. Clinton wrote: When did this happen? I admit I've been a bit disconnected for a few months but even if the Featured Apps didn't get updated, it was never intended to be an exhaustive list. In fact, I explicitly stated in the announcement (with blessing from the Release Team) that

Re: Boxes (was Re: 3.4 Features, final round)

2011-11-07 Thread Frederic Peters
Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Le dimanche 06 novembre 2011, à 17:06 +0100, Frederic Peters a écrit : + Boxes   https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/Features/Boxes   → many commits, mclasen will push the developers

3.4 Features, final round

2011-11-06 Thread Frederic Peters
Hello all, It's about time to decide on the major features we'll track for 3.4. Actually the release team already met yesterday and did a quick round up of the proposed features, here's a summary (title/url) of them as well a a quick release team note. If you feel that something important hasn't

Re: Attention anyone uploading binaries to ftp.gnome.org/pub/binaries - understand the GPL

2011-10-04 Thread Frederic Peters
Colin Walters wrote: Just a reminder - 2.5 weeks away now. On Wed, 2011-09-21 at 11:10 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: Also, just to move things along, I plan to remove any binary which does not have a corresponding SOURCES file in say one month from now.

Re: GNOME 3.3 Schedule Draft

2011-09-28 Thread Frederic Peters
Shaun McCance wrote: On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 14:42 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: A draft for the GNOME 3.3 schedule is available at https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree#Schedule Comments are welcome; Silence means compliance. I notice there's no longer a feature freeze. I

Re: GNOME 3.3 Schedule Draft

2011-09-28 Thread Frederic Peters
Shaun McCance wrote: The release team decides on big new features that span the desktop. Individual module maintainers still add features as they like. Let's say the Evince developers decided to add support for a new document format. It's not really a UI change in the sense we've

From here to apps

2011-09-26 Thread Frederic Peters
Hey, New apps are being designed on https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/ and it's really nice, we are getting Contacts and Documents on our computers in 3.2. Those days I am wondering about apps that are in domain spaces where we already have good applications, this is prompted by a comment from

Re: Splitting gnome-utils for 3.4

2011-09-21 Thread Frederic Peters
Emmanuele Bassi wrote: Cosimo: the only issue I can think of when splitting up the repo are the translations; currently, everything is translated into the same domain, so we'll need the i18n teams to perform some surgery. we can probably do it during the split (probably at the cost of the

Re: Features-oriented releases

2011-09-11 Thread Frederic Peters
Hello Alexandre, We will soon have 3.2 released, and it's quite time to discuss things for 3.4, and as I said previously, while the features focused process is something we really want, the way it happened for 3.2 was suboptimal. Let's work on this, here are some thoughts. My goal for features

Re: Switch of GNOME tarball compression format: tar.xz only

2011-09-11 Thread Frederic Peters
Vincent Untz wrote: Le dimanche 11 septembre 2011, à 13:41 +0200, Olav Vitters a écrit : If you have concerns, I'd like to hear about it. I've set the reply-to to desktop-devel-list and distributor-list. With a few other (non-gnome) tarballs switching to xz-only, one thing I realized is

Re: Confused about the release

2011-09-01 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi again! Anyway we're late, and I'll ask you for two more days of patience, so that we have the time to meet and give you a proper answer on the practical questions you have; and we will make sure this gets improved in the future. So we had our release team meeting yesterday evening, Shaun

Re: Confused about the release

2011-08-30 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi Shaun, The lack of module discussions overall is making it difficult for me to keep track of what the docs team needs to work on. I used to be able to send a documentation status report for each module before the decisions were made. Now it just seems like a black box. Sorry about that,

Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 3.1.90 beta release, and freezes

2011-08-28 Thread Frederic Peters
Richard Hughes wrote: On 28 August 2011 08:18, Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org wrote: We pushed it back to make it rock, so we count on you to deliver your tarballs on time, this is before Monday 23:59 UTC. Thanks! Monday is a bank holiday in the UK, so I have to work on my day off

Re: Update GnuTLS minimum dependency to 2.12.0?

2011-08-26 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi Stef, In order to complete the GIO TLS Database work [1] for smart cards and other PKCS#11 databases (like gnome-keyring), it looks like I'll need to update the GnuTLS dependency [2] to 2.12.0 or later. Any objections to doing this? Are we too late in the release cycle? It looks really

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-01 Thread Frederic Peters
Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:38, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote: Pretty good list of examples. All of these projects are mostly driven by Red Hat full-time employees (which isn't a bad thing in general). It happens to be the same company employing big parts of

Re: systemd as external dependency

2011-05-18 Thread Frederic Peters
Lennart Poettering wrote: I'd like to propose systemd (GPL2+, http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd) as blessed external dependency for GNOME 3.2. There actually isn't a module proposal period anymore. We are using feature or design proposals now. But the process for external

Re: New module proposal: LightDM

2011-05-17 Thread Frederic Peters
Shaun McCance wrote: I think that's the idea behind the Apps moduleset, but not Core. Core is the operating system. Apps are some things we think you might like to install on top of it. At least, that's my understanding. That's correct. Fred

Re: Firewall configuration [was Re: no external panels for gnome-control-center]

2011-05-13 Thread Frederic Peters
Bastien Nocera wrote: Feel free to follow the discussions about firewalls on the fedora-desktop list. (...) Shouldn't we try to have an appropriate @gnome.org list to discuss such things (os level), if we consider that *desktop*-devel is not the right venue? (like we #gnome-os on irc)

Re: New module proposal: LightDM

2011-05-13 Thread Frederic Peters
Ray Strode wrote: 2) Giving GDM a more of a GNOME 3 look and feel (as per the mockups you already mentioned elsewhere in the thread) The other points are also important, and could certainly be added to the feature page, but this one is explicitely cited (see

Re: dropping generation of old devhelp format in gtk-doc

2011-05-11 Thread Frederic Peters
Stefan Kost wrote: In 2005 we created a new format for devhelp index files that contains more details. It is supported since devhelp-0.11 (18.Dec.2005). The next release of gtk-doc will not generate the old devhelp files anymore. This speeds up the builds a bit and saves some bytes on your

Re: GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup

2011-05-10 Thread Frederic Peters
Bastien Nocera wrote: Rawhide and will be in Ubuntu Oneiric once we land the GNOME 3 control center. That won't work for long. Once we've move the Bluetooth panel directly in the control-center, we'll be removing the external API from the control-center. It was only added for

Re: Orca's external dependencies

2011-04-21 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi Joanmarie, Looking at the 2.91 External Dependencies list [1], I see neither Speech Dispatcher nor OpenTTS. OpenTTS got approved for the prior cycle. [2] But they've since re-merged (unforked?) with Speech Dispatcher. So Do I need to propose Speech Dispatcher as an external dependency

Re: Contributions

2011-04-20 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi Erik, a few days ago I read about the platform-wide feature proposal period of gnome 3.2 and I want to know how can someone using gnome not gnome developer propose something to get included into gnome ? I have some ideas, and I want to discuss those with gnome developers, how do I do

Re: Online Accounts panel for 3.2

2011-04-19 Thread Frederic Peters
David Zeuthen wrote: I would imagine Telepathy/Empathy to use GOA to get the Chat accounts that is configured in GOA (in the above example, it would be Google Talk from zeut...@gmail.com and Facebook Chat for davidz25). I would use an Empathy specific preferences window (not appearing in

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