Re: Sound Juicer support and/or EoL

2020-09-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Dec 03, 2019 at 11:14:15PM +0100, Kevin Degeling wrote: ps. First time ever on a mailing list, so please let me know if I'm way to formal or if I make a very Dutch impression. As far as I know, there's nothing wrong with making a very Dutch impression! -- Regards, Olav

Re: Missing releases and state of 3.33.90

2019-08-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 02:40:19PM -0400, Ray Strode via desktop-devel-list wrote: > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 2:24 PM Olav Vitters wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I had various issues packaging GNOME 3.33.90. It seems that there's > > various modules which haven't made

Missing releases and state of 3.33.90

2019-08-13 Thread Olav Vitters
Hi, I had various issues packaging GNOME 3.33.90. It seems that there's various modules which haven't made a release, e.g.: - no gdm 3.33.90 - no gnome-session 3.33.90 Further, gnome-shell 3.33.90 incorporates an gnome-desktop API/ABI (?) change, but it doesn't actually check that gnome-desktop

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-06 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 12:09:11PM +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Thu, 2019-04-25 at 11:46 +1000, Michael Gratton wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'd like to formally propose as a GNOME Goal that GNOME modules > > replace references to the terms "master" and "slave". [...] The scope > > would be to

Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-05-01 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 02:02:43PM +0200, jtojnar--- via desktop-devel-list wrote: > On Thu, 25 Apr, 2019 at 11:21 AM, Daniel Playfair Cal via desktop-devel-list > wrote: > > "master/slave" -> "leader/follower" > > Please note that leader/follower terms are commonly associated with >

Re: This video is dedicated to all of you

2018-10-30 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:25:56PM +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 21:52 +0000, Olav Vitters wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 06:32:44PM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi via > > desktop-devel-list wrote: > > > On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 18:30, Bas

Re: This video is dedicated to all of you

2018-10-17 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 06:32:44PM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list wrote: > On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 18:30, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 19:24 +0200, Alberto Salvia Novella via desktop- > > devel-list wrote: > > > https://youtu.be/ > > > > How is this person

Re: [GitLab] Projects moved, tips of the week and question of the week

2018-02-08 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 04:34:24PM +0200, Alberts Muktupāvels wrote: > It is not only script, right? Because repositories.txt does not exist under > gitlab.gnome.org. Please cut down on the excessive quoting. I assume Gitlab has some API to show the available repositories. As such, script is

Re: [GitLab] Projects moved, tips of the week and question of the week

2018-02-07 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 03:41:03PM +0200, Alberts Muktupāvels wrote: > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:33 PM, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > > > Hello Alberts, > > > > I believe the hooks for emails are still installed, so there will be no > > regressions in this regard regardless of the web

Re: GitLab migration status and roadmap

2017-08-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 08:48:34PM +0200, Carlos Soriano wrote: > Bugs can be migrated with https://gitlab.com/aruiz/gitlab-gnome-tools, is > up to the maintainer what to do with them. Note that this script has a lot of things it does NOT handle. As agreed with Alberto I'm going to fork this into

GNOME hackers (developers) group on Telegram

2017-03-13 Thread Olav Vitters
Hello, Since last GUADEC we've created a hidden GNOME hackers group on Telegram. The members are people going to GNOME hackfests, GUADEC, etc. Telegram is NOT free software (IIRC) and its encryption is iffy at best. If you'd like to be added and you fit above description please send an email to

Re: Switching from Autotools to CMake for core evolution products

2016-10-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 07:54:02AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > This is fine from a release team perspective, as we're already set up > to handle CMake modules. Just make sure to update the JHbuild > moduselets and Continuous manifest at the same time you make the > change. There are already

Reminder: editbugs+canconfirm on Bugzilla

2016-04-02 Thread Olav Vitters
It's been announced quite a while ago, but seems good to remind everyone: - If you're a developer you can add/remove other developers from your product - any developer can hand out canconfirm+editbugs permissions and please feel free to do so easily -- Regards, Olav

Fwd: Thank's for Gnome

2016-03-30 Thread Olav Vitters
FYI -- Regards, Olav --- Begin Message --- Hello I want to say Thank You to all people who work on Gnome 3 Project. I love that calm and peace when i start working on my Fedora. I love where there is nothing on my Desktop, and I only think about my work and what i must do. Gnome 3 help me to do

Re: Collaboration on standard Wayland protocol extensions

2016-03-29 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 10:50:23PM +0300, Martin Peres wrote: > We thus wanted to let distros take care of most of the policies (which > does not amount to much and will likely come with the application > anyway). However, some distros or devices come with a system > that already defines security

Re: Design & Development

2016-03-29 Thread Olav Vitters
Accidentally approved this one. Please ignore -- Regards, Olav ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Remembering Thomas Wood

2016-02-13 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 03:34:00PM +, Allan Day wrote: > As some of you might have heard, Thomas Wood passed away last month. This > is extremely sad news for those of us who knew him: he was a great guy, who > was always supportive of the GNOME project. :-( -- Regards, Olav

Re: [Builder] Developer experience (DX) hackfest 2016

2015-12-28 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 10:03:55AM -0300, Hugo Alejandro wrote: > http://rtcquickstart.org/ > > Daniel Pocock Daniel has always offered their help in creating and improving > communications through opensource protocols. That's pretty far off from what we're looking for. Above describes how to

Re: 3.16 Release Notes

2015-02-17 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 02:24:56PM +, Allan Day wrote: The release notes wiki page is still missing a lot of detail. Please take a minute to check it over - we'll be starting to write them up soon. I'll go over everything again once .90 is out. I added a bunch of stuff using the combined

Re: Killing off UNCONFIRMED in Bugzilla

2015-02-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:07:50AM +0100, Sébastien Wilmet wrote: On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 10:12:22PM +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: So triage incoming bug reports and set proper expectations by setting status RESOLVED WONTFIX for such tickets right away, instead of spending the approx. same

Killing off UNCONFIRMED in Bugzilla

2015-02-13 Thread Olav Vitters
With Bugzilla 4.4 we can disable UNCONFIRMED on a per-product basis. With that option available, I suggest to kill off the UNCONFIRMED status for all products except whomever wants it. I think we had this discussion before, but couldn't easily find that. Reasoning to kill unconfirmed: Unconfirmed

Re: Killing off UNCONFIRMED in Bugzilla

2015-02-13 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 06:39:29PM +0100, Rick Opper wrote: OK... So they just stay new then... I'm not sure that would give the original reporter the impression that something is being done, but as long as the bugs do get confirmed, sorted, whatever then any simplification may be helpful...

Re: Killing off UNCONFIRMED in Bugzilla

2015-02-13 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 04:51:58PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: Action required: IF YOU WANT TO KEEP UNCONFIRMED FOR YOUR PRODUCT PLEASE SPEAK UP!! I'm keeping track of opt-outs at https://wiki.gnome.org/BugzillaMaintainers/NoUnconfirmed Feel free to edit, though would appreciate a comment why

Re: Commit auto-links in bugzilla comments

2015-02-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 08:38:39AM +0100, Milan Crha wrote: Is there a way to tell the comment parser that the commit itself belongs to another product than the one the bug is filled for? I could add support for something like: module $FOO commit $BAR Just as now you can do: comment 13

Re: OUTAGE: bugzilla.gnome.org, 09th February (09:00 CET) - 10th February (22:00 CET)

2015-02-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 09:58:49AM +0100, Alexandre Franke wrote: As I already told Sri on IRC yesterday, if anything is wrong with our current bugzilla, you should start by filing bugs. Then we can start looking for solutions and someone to implement them. Otherwise we can't guess what you

Re: Anyone going to be using ConsoleKit for 3.16 ?

2015-02-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 03:36:36PM -0500, Ray Strode wrote: Hi, On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: Can't we hide it behind a --this-is-going-away-in-3.18 configure switch? That was certainly a possibility, but, what's the advantage of doing it? The bug

Re: Anyone going to be using ConsoleKit for 3.16 ?

2015-02-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 09:48:19AM -0500, Ray Strode wrote: On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:24 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: Having a configure option would not mean it is suddenly gone (if they miss this email, they'd also not know about the patch), but it clearly tells them it'll

Re: Anyone going to be using ConsoleKit for 3.16 ?

2015-02-03 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 10:54:12AM -0500, Ray Strode wrote: [..] I'm wondering if there are distros/platforms that are planning on using 3.16 and ConsoleKit together. [..] I would not mind removing such support for 3.16 if and only if reverting the removal is easy and not too intrusive.

Re: Feedback from downstreams presentation from DX hackfest 2015

2015-02-02 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 08:05:00AM +, Philip Withnall wrote: It was suggested that I send the presentation to DDL, since it might be of general interest. I haven’t modified it from the hackfest version, so please let me know if you have any questions. Can we assume that most still needs to

Re: Feedback from downstreams presentation from DX hackfest 2015

2015-02-02 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 02:37:32PM +, Philip Withnall wrote: What do you mean by reaching out to the advisory board? Reaching out for further feedback from them as downstreams, or reaching out for resources to fix such issues? I think the former would be interesting. I’m not sure the

Re: Gnome / systemd

2015-01-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 09:50:49AM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: I assume you're contacting us because you're considering GNOME for your default desktop environment. That's something that I would like to encourage. :) I also assume you've already willing to reimplement the various D-Bus

Re: Gnome / systemd

2015-01-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 08:25:26AM -0800, Sri Ramkrishna wrote: Internet. The greatest way of changing minds and hearts is to be calm and coherent on what we're trying to do. That said, this thread and its replies are a perfect example of how we should approach issues. If we want to gain

Re: Announce release of non-official module

2014-08-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:49:49AM +0200, Juan Rafael García Blanco wrote: So my question is, should I wait a bit more because moderators are busy? Or did I do wrong sending an announcement to gnome-announce-list? I think we need more moderators. I cleared the queue now. I think we usually

Re: git.gnome.org changes and new doap file requirements

2014-08-03 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 08:05:21AM +0200, scl wrote: What am I doing wrong? Needs the git hook to be fixed? Right, instead of testing that it gives an error, I should also have tested that it works as intended. I fixed about 3 bugs now, please try again. :-P -- Regards, Olav

Re: Announce release of non-official module

2014-08-03 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 04:41:26PM +0200, Juan R. Garcia Blanco wrote: So my question is: could I send an announcement to gnome-announce-list without submitting a tarball, just tagging the repo? If you announce a release, distributions will want to download a tarball from somewhere. So you'd

git.gnome.org changes and new doap file requirements

2014-08-02 Thread Olav Vitters
[ Please reply to desktop-devel-list@gnome.org ] André Klapper suggested we should make more use of the doap files. As a result of that together with GUADEC, the following changes have been made on git.gnome.org: 1. New categories: Core, Core Apps, Apps Note: Not every module has been put

Re: Translation commits pushed when rolling a tarball

2014-08-01 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 05:24:55PM +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote: I think there is no equivalent of 'svn lock' for git, so sending a mail is a solution. I think we could add something as equivalent to svn lock. It takes a bit of time to setup though, and damned lies (l10n.gnome.org) would have

Re: Archived git modules

2014-07-31 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 05:12:53PM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: The following git modules have been archived: - clutter-gstreamermm - divifund - drgeo - firestarter - gimmie - gnome-docker - gnome-launch-box - gnome-mime-data - gnome-python-extras - guikachu - hipo - jana - jumpnbumpmenu - libgail

Archived git modules

2014-07-30 Thread Olav Vitters
The following git modules have been archived: - sabayon - nanny - gnome-python - gtk-theme-engine-clearlooks - drivel - annum - at-poke - docbook-dtds - pygtkglext - java-gobject-introspection - model-examples - j5tester - pyorbit - podsleuth - perl-Champlain - perl-Gtk2-Champlain

Re: GNOME 3.13.2

2014-05-30 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 01:33:11PM -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: I have made systemd optional in mutter: https://git.gnome.org/browse/mutter/commit/?id=806a66695077672c6848dd14c6a55781c27ba0e6 This disables the build of our native backend based on KMS, but Wayland support is still there

Offtopic: Git workflow with external repository and git.gnome.org

2014-04-15 Thread Olav Vitters
Hi, Bugzilla converted their repository into git. I'd like to host the changes compared to upstream on git.gnome.org. But at the same time easily merge the changes from upstream. Further, I'd like to somehow be able to also move between versions. E.g. from v4.4 to 4.6. I've asked below to the

Re: 3.12 feature: polari

2013-10-11 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 06:32:04PM +0200, Florian Müllner wrote: Polari is a simple IRC client designed for GNOME 3. Tentative designs have been around for a while, but hacking only started around Guadec. It is obviously not end-user ready at that point, but I'm confident that it can be in

Re: 3.12 feature: polari

2013-10-11 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 01:08:11PM +0100, Allan Day wrote: Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 06:32:04PM +0200, Florian Müllner wrote: Polari is a simple IRC client designed for GNOME 3. Tentative designs have been around for a while, but hacking only started around

Re: Middle click, dumbing down Slashdotted

2013-09-26 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 04:44:17AM -0700, Leslie S Satenstein wrote: As Gnome is emulating the Android interface, you should know that if I wanted a Android interface to Linux, I would certainly go the Android route.    This is going highly offtopic. Android?!? People really care about the

Re: 3.12 feature: GNOME Software

2013-09-24 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 02:46:14PM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: - On some distributions, we have basic fonts previews in the addon category - On some distributions, we have input methods in the addon category Is there anything a distribution should do? I noticed you wanted something changed

Re: Correct .doap file syntax for the name tag

2013-08-22 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:15:32AM +0200, Andrea Veri wrote: 2. many other scripts are relying on name matching the exact repository-name. Which ones? No script that I am aware of uses this to figure out the repository name. It uses https://git.gnome.org/repositories.doap, and that contains the

Re: Correct .doap file syntax for the name tag

2013-08-22 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:28:43PM +0200, Andrea Veri wrote: No, sorry for not pointing that out on my previous email, you can use a name tag of your choice but it would be simply awesome to have all the GitRepositories tags in place. GitRepositories is really not needed. A script adds that,

Re: Correct .doap file syntax for the name tag

2013-08-22 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:11:11PM +0100, David King wrote: However, it is a minor thing, and the current mirror script works without it. None of the current sysadmin scripts use the GitRepository property, other than injecting it into repositories.doap. You missed handle-ldap-modules. --

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-19 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 05:08:06PM +0200, Mathieu Stumpf wrote: Le 2013-08-18 23:13, Olav Vitters a écrit : On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 01:14:47PM -0400, Super Bisquit wrote: Since when did you become a Dr without having an actual doctorate- honorary ones don't mean shit? Since when

Re: Passive resistance [was: Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror]

2013-08-18 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:00:38AM +0200, Matteo Settenvini wrote: If there's interest, we could draft a paragraph or two, so that a bit of uniformity in communicating our ideals takes the form of a wider protest. I recommend not doing this. The code is published under the GPL. If you don't

Re: Passive resistance [was: Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror]

2013-08-18 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 04:50:14PM +0200, Matteo Settenvini wrote: In the end, I might just do so, if everyone turns out to be uninterested in the fundamental values of free software. For once, I might start by canceling my monthly donations. And with me, others — fewer than you would gain by

Re: Passive resistance [was: Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror]

2013-08-18 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:20:31PM +0300, fr33domlover wrote: Therefore, by turning off mirroring for a module, you don't block anything or stop anything - you just avoid pointing to a proprietary service, which is legitimate in my opinion. git.gnome.org is also available on Google. It indexes

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-18 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 01:14:47PM -0400, Super Bisquit wrote: Since when did you become a Dr without having an actual doctorate- honorary ones don't mean shit? Since when is such behaviour socially acceptable? Anyway, you're banned from both lists, bye. -- Regards, Olav

Re: loomio

2013-04-17 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:08:31PM +0100, Marco Scannadinari wrote: So you want to have random people suddenly join, be of the decision and have equal say? I find that a little bit weird. As opposed to the method that we have now which is..? People who are part of the team.

Re: loomio

2013-04-17 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:06:51PM +0100, Marco Scannadinari wrote: If someone posts a proposal on gnome-devel, for example, it would not be efficient or easy for each user to give their approval: Yeah I love Here you clearly assume that it will be used for software development. If you want to

Re: loomio

2013-04-17 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 05:34:55PM +0100, Marco Scannadinari wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:06:51PM +0100, Marco Scannadinari wrote: If someone posts a proposal on gnome-devel, for example, it would not be efficient or easy for each user to give their approval:

Re: loomio

2013-04-16 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 05:21:15PM +0100, Marco Scannadinari wrote: [0] (Restricted in that users do not know that it exists, or that they are allowed to participate. And if they do, they may not be notified of a decision meeting when it occurs.) I don't get this at all. This implies that

Re: loomio

2013-04-16 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 01:49:48PM -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 05:21:15PM +0100, Marco Scannadinari wrote: [0] (Restricted in that users do not know that it exists, or that they are allowed

Re: loomio

2013-04-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 11:36:54AM +0300, אנטולי קרסנר wrote: What do you think? How are you involved in this? I get the impression that you're involved and will use GNOME in your marketing material. Initial impressions: - lacks silent thinking ideas - surveys should not be public during voting

Re: loomio

2013-04-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 03:33:06PM +0300, אנטולי קרסנר wrote: So I'm not attacking the relevance of existing tools. I'm suggesting a tool which may be better for some use cases. Maybe it can, maybe it can't, but don't judge so quickly. It just seems some basics are missing. What is missing

Re: How long should it take to fix a obvious memory leak?

2013-04-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 10:44:22PM +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote: Are suggesting that GNOME are maintained by a group of hobbyist? How to prove your seriousness about your distributed software? sarcasm I am a hobbyist. I am aware that there is something wrong with that, for which I apologize. Where I

Re: How long should it take to fix a obvious memory leak?

2013-04-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 11:51:50PM +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote: I understand it's good to ask nicely. But for this bug, such job is done by other people already. Are you really saying that you're out to be annoying? Not sure how you expect to get things done with such an attitude (in this project).

Re: How long should it take to fix a obvious memory leak?

2013-04-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 11:19:49PM +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote: On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: And? No need to further rant how you tend to make excuses of bugs rather than try hard to fix them. Every software has bugs. GNOME has loads. We have Bugzilla to

Re: How long should it take to fix a obvious memory leak?

2013-04-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 11:16:21PM +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote: On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: Community dynamics are an important part of how GNOME functions generally and all discussion here should be mindful of that fact. Harsh and negative tone

Re: How long should it take to fix a obvious memory leak?

2013-04-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 12:36:09AM +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote: This is nice answer. But people didn't answer the OP question honestly. They just try to prove that I was rude and try to make excuses of the OP bug. You already got an answer that pygtk is not maintained, and that gobject

Re: GNOME Love flyer and help

2013-04-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 02:55:58PM -0400, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: Thanks to design and edits by Fabiana Simões and Andreas Nilsson and edits by Flavia Weisghizzi, Karen Sandler, and me, we now have a GNOME Love flyer! Please bring it to any conference or event where you can encourage

Re: Fix check for systemd in modules that talk to logind

2013-03-21 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 07:03:24AM +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: This affects the following GNOME modules: gnome-shell gnome-session gnome-screensaver gdm gnome-system-monitor and the following software around/beneath GNOME: pulseaudio accountsservice upower udisks dbus I will file

Re: Porting GNOME to Wayland

2013-03-21 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:31:38PM +, Patrick Welche wrote: More of a Wayland FAQ, but on which OSes does Wayland run? I thought it is not Linux-only, but I am not sure. Anyone know? -- Regards, Olav ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Re: Porting GNOME to Wayland

2013-03-21 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 02:32:51PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: Spring is in the air - things change, people are looking for things to try and new goals. I propose that we set ourselves a new goal: port GNOME to Wayland Based on the lack of negative feedback, I've updated

Re: Porting GNOME to Wayland NFS performance in GNOME 3

2013-03-19 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:48:40AM +0100, stefan skoglund(agj) wrote: The RedHat thing is a really longlived bug in redhats bugzilla about gvfs metadata induced overload of NFS servers. That bug is rather bad and i think that if it isn't resolved it will make GNOME3 impossible to run in

Re: Bijiben

2013-03-13 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 06:44:24PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Luyten wrote: I'm requesting a new module inclusion : Bijiben It's another note taking application [1] - goal is to implement Notes design [2] Shown as a preview app in 3.8 release notes:

Re: Announcement/RFC: jhbuild continuous integration testing

2013-02-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 07:12:10AM +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: That is indeed the long-term plan, but there's still some work to be done before we can do that. The machine we are running this on has 64 2.7 GHz cores and 64 GB of RAM, that really isn't a bottleneck right now. The main two

Re: Announcement/RFC: jhbuild continuous integration testing

2013-02-13 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 06:53:17AM +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: Travis Reitter [2013-02-12 13:21 -0800]: On Tue, 2013-02-12 at 07:43 +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: To make this really useful, we can't rely on developers checking this every hour or every day, of course; instead we need push

Re: Announcement/RFC: jhbuild continuous integration testing

2013-02-13 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:23:52AM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Wed, 2013-02-13 at 10:59 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 06:53:17AM +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: The main issue that I see with this is that it's much harder to filter away/opt out, so it requires some

Re: Gnome shell is really awesome

2013-02-07 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 10:47:04AM -0800, Christopher Wortman wrote: I hear that you are adding Gnome 2 features, and I have sat and thought and pondered this for a long time. It is still under development, but you can see some non-even alpha quality screenshots:

Re: [PATCH] rename session-save to -quit in man page

2013-02-07 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 11:50:18PM -0500, nick black wrote: The gnome-session-properties(1) man page references gnome-session-save, which has been renamed to gnome-session-quit. Trivial patch. Please apply. This patch originated in development for SprezzOS 1.0.0. Please attach it to Bugzilla.

configure.in

2012-12-29 Thread Olav Vitters
I saw a plan that auto* is planning to drop support for configure.in, and only support configure.ac. Should we do a GNOME goal to ensure everyone uses configure.ac or is this an easy 'waiting for champagne @ 24.00' task? -- Regards, Olav ___

Re: gnome goals for 3.6

2012-12-17 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:44:32AM +0100, Daniel Mustieles García wrote: Just a quick question about this topic. Which is the attribute equivalent to small? I'm migrating gnome-terminal and I need to change this value. $ python Python 2.7.3 (default, Aug 5 2012, 23:17:03) [GCC 4.7.1] on

Re: Bugzilla upgrade work

2012-12-17 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:03:39AM +0100, Milan Crha wrote: thanks a lot for that. I'm wondering, will you cover also bugs targeted to Bugzilla 4.2, say those with patches? [1] Some looks harder, some simpler, on the first look, and I thought it'll be good to get rid of them together with the

Re: Bugzilla upgrade work

2012-12-17 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 11:06:03AM -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Is there some way we could make these extensions and patches we can put in a puppet install? I realize the database portion is going to be the manual stuff, but it seems that it would be easier to be able to automate it. Of

Bugzilla upgrade work

2012-12-14 Thread Olav Vitters
If anyone wants to join, I'll work on Bugzilla during Dec 22 - Dec 30 together with Andrea. Recommended to know: - Bugzilla - GNOME Bugzilla (it is not standard :P) see https://launchpad.net/bugzilla.gnome.org for the code and instructions to see the diff vs vanilla 3.4) - Perl - read

Re: Bugzilla upgrade? [was: Re: GNOME Bugmail: Gmail threading finally working!]

2012-12-13 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 06:33:17PM +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 18:10 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: That is why there is a GNOME extension as well. Then there's likely missing documentation about dependencies. Currently no README file in the Browse extension would even

Re: GNOME Bugmail: Gmail threading finally working!

2012-12-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 02:15:30PM +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: I introduced a little fix yesterday night that will modify how bugmail's subjects appear, that for Gmail's threading to work properly. (as you may know Gmail doesn't look for the In-Reply-To: header but for the subject instead)

Re: Bugzilla upgrade? [was: Re: GNOME Bugmail: Gmail threading finally working!]

2012-12-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 04:48:43PM +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: Thanks for bringing this up Andre. I can try to work on the upgrade but I never touched Bugzilla before since Olav was used to manage it. I've searched around for the upgrade documentation [1] and it doesn't look like an hard

Re: Bugzilla upgrade? [was: Re: GNOME Bugmail: Gmail threading finally working!]

2012-12-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 04:58:48PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: Do *NOT* touch Bugzilla. As mentioned before, there are *load* and with the not touching I meant in case of an intended action of just upgrading to a new vanilla upstream version. -- Regards, Olav

Re: Bugzilla upgrade? [was: Re: GNOME Bugmail: Gmail threading finally working!]

2012-12-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 05:17:54PM +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 16:48 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: Thanks for bringing this up Andre. I can try to work on the upgrade but I never touched Bugzilla before since Olav was used to manage it. I've searched around for the upgrade

Re: Bugzilla upgrade? [was: Re: GNOME Bugmail: Gmail threading finally working!]

2012-12-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 05:42:16PM +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 17:24 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: Would be helpful if Olav could outline that, yes. There's a raw codedump of some stuff at http://bzr.mozilla.org/bugzilla/extensions/ which is untested and non-working

Re: Gnome-main-menu maintainership goes to MATE

2012-11-28 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 04:03:38PM -0600, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: Both Nelson and Stefano have requested git.gnome.org accounts; the code will still live there. I'll take care of giving them Bugzilla privileges. Note that if you want anyone else in the MATE project to have git accounts,

Re: Dropping fallback mode in 3.8

2012-11-22 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 06:47:35PM -0600, Ma Xiaojun wrote: Though it seems hopeless to change the decision, I find some tendency annoying. You missed the obvious answer: - Need to ensure that the driver supports what the hardware is capable of. 2. Folks can use LLVMpipe. llvmpipe is not

Re: Fallback mode is going away - what now ?

2012-11-21 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 08:17:16AM -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: We haven't made a final decision yet on how to let users turn on this 'classic mode' - it may be a switch in gnome-tweak-tool or something else. I'm wondering if we cannot just change the fallback mode switch into a traditional

Re: GNOME goal for 3.8: Python 3 -- impact for pygobject itself

2012-11-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 10:28:35AM +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: Should I just change the default to python3, so that jhbuild will from now on build for py3 unless you explicitly configure for python2? That would go along with that goal, but would break modules which expect pygobject for py2. The

Re: GNOME goal for 3.8: Python 3 -- impact for pygobject itself

2012-11-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 06:45:04AM -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: I prefer a jhbuild hack as it seems easier. Any distribution likely already dealt with this. For Fedora, we have a python3-gobject package. I think

Re: GNOME goal for 3.8: Python 3 -- impact for pygobject itself

2012-11-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 08:04:50AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: Longer answer: The Python3 porting should really be focused along runtime/devel lines first. What I mean by this is that ideally for a If someone could add some priority to the modules I'd appreciate. The Python3 porting is one of

Re: Blocker bug status

2012-09-17 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:32:41PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: Em Mon, 2012-09-17 às 12:37 +0200, Andre Klapper escreveu: On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 12:19 +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote: I can't reproduce the problem, and nobody spent time root-causing it, so I can't do anything. Any

Re: High Resolution Gnome

2012-09-07 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 06:06:12AM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: From my quick reading, the shell should pick up the same cursor theme as gtk applications, but I could missing something... Jason: Please file a bug on this against gnome-shell. Maybe we need a tracker bug to fix all the cases

Re: Support both gstreamer 0.10 and 1.0 for GNOME 3.6?

2012-08-01 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 04:45:14PM +0200, Marc-André Lureau wrote: I think gnome-media should be moved to a deprecated read-only directory (or something similar), and we focus on Florent effort to build a better recorder for gnome. But I can imagine some people would prefer to have the current

Re: compiler warnings, -Werror, etc.

2012-07-28 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 01:24:39PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: Not everything uses GNOME_COMPILE_WARNINGS, but that's not a big deal - my main goal here is to in order: 1) Convince module maintainers not to use -Wall -Werror In Mageia we either file bugs for -Werror, or the -Werror is

Re: Again: please clarify the decision on IBus integration

2012-07-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:55:53PM +0800, Aron Xu wrote: You actually don't know. Do you use input method everyday? If you do, then I'm wrong; if not, then you are wrong. This is simple to understand. Please be modest when talking about techinical stuff, you are not an expert of inputing

Re: Again: please clarify the decision on IBus integration

2012-07-09 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 10:45:34AM +0800, Aron Xu wrote: I would like to get your clarification about what's your decision on IBus integration because all of us haven't reached to an agreement on the whole thing. While I feel that you'll do it regardless of From what I understood, you can

Re: GNOME and high-DPI screens

2012-07-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 11:34:04PM -0700, Brion Vibber wrote: What can regular users and casual developers do to help today? Should we report things that don't scale as expected, or wait for something to get into place before we start? For starters, bugs should be filed. There is one Gtk+ bug

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