Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
Hi Thomas! Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2007, 12:50 + schrieb Thomas Wood: I suggest we give MacSlow (CC'ed) till the end of the week to come up with something uber sexy. I'll give it a lame try if he doesn't. I thought this was GNOME we're talking about. We do professional software, not pointless eye-candy, right? I'm not saying professional looking software has to be boring, but there seems to be a tendency to go over the top with GL effects on the desktop at the moment. The plan is to stick to pure gtk+/cairo for any effect-work. This is two-fold: 1.) The spread of GL-capable systems with proper drivers is still minimal I would guess. Even more so for the composited case looking at the state of X.org and OSS-drivers. 2.) gtk+/cairo are two core technologies of the GNOME-platform. It is a good idea to provide end-users, interested 3rd-party developers a nice single spot to see what power (graphics-wise) resides in the system they are sitting in front of. Something like gnome-about is far better suited for this than the average utility- or helper-program of GNOME. Furthermore I hope to get some design input from folks from gnome-art and/or the tango-project. It would help me with the work on this as I don't have much spare-time slots left unallocated :) BTW, please don't fall to the false assumption that a possible use of OpenGL would equal to over-the-top-polygons-in-your-face like some beryl videos on the net suggest :) Best regards... Mirco MacSlow Müller -- email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] www - http://macslow.thepimp.net lowfat - http://macslow.thepimp.net/sponsor-it ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 01:06 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 12:58 +, Iain * wrote: Seeing as this is the only real reason for having this (I mean, who else has ever run the about program and looked at all the names in it) I'm not sure what the purpose of this message of you was, but anyway, I've done that a few times. Mostly when I was not maintaining anything in GNOME. So yes, there are people who do that (and yes, they are probably all geeks). So what are we going to do? Add 1000 new names? Where to put the cut? A simpler solution is to remove it. Another one is put it them only members of GNOME Foundation. It supposed to be integrated by active members in the last two years (4 releases). Also, as a geek thing, it could encourage(?) to contributors to being part of the foundation. Regards, -- Germán Poó Caamaño Concepción - Chile ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
tor, 08.03.2007 kl. 01.06 -0500, skrev Behdad Esfahbod: On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 12:58 +, Iain * wrote: Seeing as this is the only real reason for having this (I mean, who else has ever run the about program and looked at all the names in it) I'm not sure what the purpose of this message of you was, but anyway, I've done that a few times. Mostly when I was not maintaining anything in GNOME. So yes, there are people who do that (and yes, they are probably all geeks). So what are we going to do? Add 1000 new names? Where to put the cut? A simpler solution is to remove it. Or make it a pointer to a webpage somewhere on @gnome.org where this is maintained by whoever is in charge of the list of active contributors, cvs account holders, foundation members and so on. Cheers Kjartan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 08:39 -0300, Germán Poó Caamaño wrote: On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 01:06 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 12:58 +, Iain * wrote: Seeing as this is the only real reason for having this (I mean, who else has ever run the about program and looked at all the names in it) I'm not sure what the purpose of this message of you was, but anyway, I've done that a few times. Mostly when I was not maintaining anything in GNOME. So yes, there are people who do that (and yes, they are probably all geeks). So what are we going to do? Add 1000 new names? Where to put the cut? A simpler solution is to remove it. Please no. Personal recognition is an important hallmark of free software development. Another one is put it them only members of GNOME Foundation. It supposed to be integrated by active members in the last two years (4 releases). Also, as a geek thing, it could encourage(?) to contributors to being part of the foundation. I think it would be a shame to drop the credits for our past contributors. We're standing on the shoulder of giants. -- Shaun ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 11:20 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote: Another one is put it them only members of GNOME Foundation. It supposed to be integrated by active members in the last two years (4 releases). Also, as a geek thing, it could encourage(?) to contributors to being part of the foundation. I think it would be a shame to drop the credits for our past contributors. We're standing on the shoulder of giants. What about something like a f-spot-like timeline of foundation members ? ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
I think it would be a shame to drop the credits for our past contributors. We're standing on the shoulder of giants. The giants are not the ones it matters to, they have their names tattooed over everything. You are standing on the shoulders of a small army of minor contributors, who probably are not recognized elsewhere or known anyway, their names should stay IMHO. It also avoids the question of appropriate copyright notice (GPL clause 1) and compliance with various national laws that protect authors rights to be acknowledged for their authorship. I'd be for putting the older contributors at the bottom of the list and the current ones at the top. It'll put me right down the bottom but thats only fair. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 12:50 +, Thomas Wood wrote: I thought this was GNOME we're talking about. We do professional software, not pointless eye-candy, right? I'm not saying professional looking software has to be boring, but there seems to be a tendency to go over the top with GL effects on the desktop at the moment. Most professional software doesn't have a list of contributors. Are you suggesting that we remove it? I'm fine with that, but if we are going to keep it, we may as well have some fun and make it look nice. It's a useless piece of dialog otherwise. We may as well use it to show off some cool things you can do with GNOME technology. -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 08:39 -0300, Germán Poó Caamaño wrote: On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 01:06 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 12:58 +, Iain * wrote: Seeing as this is the only real reason for having this (I mean, who else has ever run the about program and looked at all the names in it) I'm not sure what the purpose of this message of you was, but anyway, I've done that a few times. Mostly when I was not maintaining anything in GNOME. So yes, there are people who do that (and yes, they are probably all geeks). So what are we going to do? Add 1000 new names? Where to put the cut? A simpler solution is to remove it. Another one is put it them only members of GNOME Foundation. It supposed to be integrated by active members in the last two years (4 releases). Foundation members makes a lot of sense to me. I'm all for it. Keep the old list, don't remove them. Just from now on, add new Foundation members. Easy and deterministic. If anyone cares to be there, they should also care about becoming a member. Also, as a geek thing, it could encourage(?) to contributors to being part of the foundation. Regards, -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
Le mardi 06 mars 2007 à 17:01 -0500, Luis Villa a écrit : On 3/6/07, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Do you all remember that we list our contributors in About GNOME? The list of GNOME contributors is probably outdated: many people contributed a lot of stuff in recent years and are not there. It's a shame to not thank them, so we have to fix this! It would be really great if all maintainers could take 10 minutes and check that all of their main contributors are listed in there. To do so, open this URL and look for the name of your contributors: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-desktop/trunk/gnome-about/contributors.h?view=markup If there are some missing contributors, send me a private reply with the names of those contributors. I'll make sure to add them before 2.18.0. It'd be great to have the non-ascii characters in hexa, so for example: Mariano Su\xc3\xa1rez-Alvarez instead of Mariano Suárez-Alvarez. I'll ask for a hard code freeze break to get this in (yes, this is code ;-)). And I'll buy a $BEVERAGE_OF_CHOICE for anyone who makes the dang thing sexy and less slow in 2.19.0. This is 2007; if our about box doesn't optionally utilize GL, surely we've failed. :) Of course, what would be great would be to integrate the mosaic part of your GUADEC We are GNOME presentation in GNOME About.. -- Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandriva ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
On 3/7/07, Ronald S. Bultje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not in it. :-). Looking through the past few series and seeing which more-than-once contributors are not in the list, I guess you'd have to add (Including me): Hi :) Though I'm still learning the ropes, I've contributed a few patches to the Evolution project many keymaps for m17n-db project (though its not a part of Gnome). http://bugzilla.gnome.org/describeuser.cgi?login=mayank.gnu%40gmail.com I'd be very happy to see my name in the contributors list. Please add me as Mayank Jain (Makuchaku) - http://www.makuchaku.info/blog - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Makuchaku ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 22:31 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Hi, [...] It would be really great if all maintainers could take 10 minutes and check that all of their main contributors are listed in there. To do so, open this URL and look for the name of your contributors: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-desktop/trunk/gnome-about/contributors.h?view=markup If there are some missing contributors, send me a private reply with the names of those contributors. I'll make sure to add them before 2.18.0. If we really must have a gnome-about dialog, shouldn't the contributors list be kept up to date automatically? If it has to be updated manually then it's only going to go out of date again for the next release. Perhaps all svn account holders and foundation members (past and present?) should be automatically added to the list? This would also encourage people to become foundation members. It also has the benefit that each of the names would have been verified as having made a significant contribution. On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 17:01 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: And I'll buy a $BEVERAGE_OF_CHOICE for anyone who makes the dang thing sexy and less slow in 2.19.0. This is 2007; if our about box doesn't optionally utilize GL, surely we've failed. :) I suggest we give MacSlow (CC'ed) till the end of the week to come up with something uber sexy. I'll give it a lame try if he doesn't. I thought this was GNOME we're talking about. We do professional software, not pointless eye-candy, right? I'm not saying professional looking software has to be boring, but there seems to be a tendency to go over the top with GL effects on the desktop at the moment. -Thomas ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
On 3/6/07, Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could make it whiz through and get to any specific name I wanted (e.g. mine) rather quickly. Seeing as this is the only real reason for having this (I mean, who else has ever run the about program and looked at all the names in it) I propose that we just replace it with a dialog that says GNOME Version $(VERSION) Written by Me that'll solve all the problems and you can show off to your hearts content. iain ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 17:01 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: And I'll buy a $BEVERAGE_OF_CHOICE for anyone who makes the dang thing sexy and less slow in 2.19.0. This is 2007; if our about box doesn't optionally utilize GL, surely we've failed. :) Bonus points for making it take less than, ya know, about a million hours to go through the whole list :) Making it accessible would be rather nice too... it hasn't worked well with high contrast themes for years[1], and I'm guessing screenreaders can't do much with it either. Cheeri, Calum. [1] Incomplete patch here that's been rotting for three years or so: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125295 -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
On 3/7/07, Thomas Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we really must have a gnome-about dialog, shouldn't the contributors list be kept up to date automatically? If it has to be updated manually then it's only going to go out of date again for the next release. We could use Tracker to get the list of contributors if we mark them with GNOME Foundation member metadata and it could update the list in real time... iain ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 12:50 +, Thomas Wood wrote: ... On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 17:01 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: And I'll buy a $BEVERAGE_OF_CHOICE for anyone who makes the dang thing sexy and less slow in 2.19.0. This is 2007; if our about box doesn't optionally utilize GL, surely we've failed. :) I suggest we give MacSlow (CC'ed) till the end of the week to come up with something uber sexy. I'll give it a lame try if he doesn't. I thought this was GNOME we're talking about. We do professional software, not pointless eye-candy, right? I'm not saying professional looking software has to be boring, but there seems to be a tendency to go over the top with GL effects on the desktop at the moment. This also have issues with magnificaction... You can see it by running glxgears and running the magnifier in full-screen mode (using COMPOSITE). I don't know the cause exactly, but probably is due direct rendering use in the OpenGL app. -Thomas ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list ___ Yahoo! Mail - Sempre a melhor opção para você! Experimente já e veja as novidades. http://br.yahoo.com/mailbeta/tudonovo/ ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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Hi: Making it accessible would be rather nice too... it hasn't worked well with high contrast themes for years[1], and I'm guessing screenreaders can't do much with it either. Thanks for bringing this up, Calum! Orca definitely has issues with it: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355524 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359635 Ideally, the user could have access to all the content. Some of the nice stuff to have, however, is the ability to navigate to some of the more important stuff (version, build date, etc.) so the user can cut/paste it in bug reports. There is a workaround (gnome-about --gnome-version), but access to the same GUI everyone else uses is always desirable. Thanks again! Will ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
On 3/7/07, Thomas Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we really must have a gnome-about dialog, shouldn't the contributors list be kept up to date automatically? If it has to be updated manually then it's only going to go out of date again for the next release. Perhaps all svn account holders and foundation members (past and present?) should be automatically added to the list? This would also encourage people to become foundation members. It also has the benefit that each of the names would have been verified as having made a significant contribution. On a more serious note (i know, I'm in shock too) why don't we just have a web page with everyone's names? that way its easy to update, we can make it pretty, and put photos and biographies and what have you on it. iain ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 14:09 +, Iain * wrote: On a more serious note (i know, I'm in shock too) why don't we just have a web page with everyone's names? that way its easy to update, we can make it pretty, and put photos and biographies and what have you on it. I think making each particular version of the about dialog look 'dated' is part of the charm. - Look, this is GNOME about dialog from 1894 ! - Yes, I was already there ! Xav - not there ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 12:58 +, Iain * wrote: Seeing as this is the only real reason for having this (I mean, who else has ever run the about program and looked at all the names in it) I'm not sure what the purpose of this message of you was, but anyway, I've done that a few times. Mostly when I was not maintaining anything in GNOME. So yes, there are people who do that (and yes, they are probably all geeks). So what are we going to do? Add 1000 new names? Where to put the cut? A simpler solution is to remove it. -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
Hi Vincent, I'm not in it. :-). Looking through the past few series and seeing which more-than-once contributors are not in the list, I guess you'd have to add (Including me): Ronald S. Bultje Sebastien Bacher Tim-Philipp Muller - I don't know how to do a u-umlaut Jens Granseuer Wouter Bolsterlee Madhan Raj M. Nirmal Kumar Alan Horkan Thanks, Ronald On Mar 6, 2007, at 4:31 PM, Vincent Untz wrote: Hi, Do you all remember that we list our contributors in About GNOME? The list of GNOME contributors is probably outdated: many people contributed a lot of stuff in recent years and are not there. It's a shame to not thank them, so we have to fix this! It would be really great if all maintainers could take 10 minutes and check that all of their main contributors are listed in there. To do so, open this URL and look for the name of your contributors: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-desktop/trunk/gnome-about/ contributors.h?view=markup If there are some missing contributors, send me a private reply with the names of those contributors. I'll make sure to add them before 2.18.0. It'd be great to have the non-ascii characters in hexa, so for example: Mariano Su\xc3\xa1rez-Alvarez instead of Mariano Suárez-Alvarez. I'll ask for a hard code freeze break to get this in (yes, this is code ;-)). Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- devel-announce-list mailing list devel-announce-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce-list ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
On 3/6/07, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Do you all remember that we list our contributors in About GNOME? The list of GNOME contributors is probably outdated: many people contributed a lot of stuff in recent years and are not there. It's a shame to not thank them, so we have to fix this! It would be really great if all maintainers could take 10 minutes and check that all of their main contributors are listed in there. To do so, open this URL and look for the name of your contributors: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-desktop/trunk/gnome-about/contributors.h?view=markup If there are some missing contributors, send me a private reply with the names of those contributors. I'll make sure to add them before 2.18.0. It'd be great to have the non-ascii characters in hexa, so for example: Mariano Su\xc3\xa1rez-Alvarez instead of Mariano Suárez-Alvarez. I'll ask for a hard code freeze break to get this in (yes, this is code ;-)). And I'll buy a $BEVERAGE_OF_CHOICE for anyone who makes the dang thing sexy and less slow in 2.19.0. This is 2007; if our about box doesn't optionally utilize GL, surely we've failed. :) Bonus points for making it take less than, ya know, about a million hours to go through the whole list :) [And a full case of $BEVERAGE_OF_CHOICE to whoever goes through the list of top bugsquad contributors and makes sure they are all in there for 2.18.0. Unsung heroes and all that.] Luis ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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Hi Vincent: I've never been included in the Gnome contributors' list. I reckon it's about time! Bill Haneman also Carlos Eduardo Rodrigues Di\xf3genes Li Yuan Harry Lu David Bolter Padraig O'Briain and if Will doesn't send these himself: Will Walker Mike Pedersen Thanks Vincent! - Bill Vincent Untz wrote: Hi, Do you all remember that we list our contributors in About GNOME? The list of GNOME contributors is probably outdated: many people contributed a lot of stuff in recent years and are not there. It's a shame to not thank them, so we have to fix this! It would be really great if all maintainers could take 10 minutes and check that all of their main contributors are listed in there. To do so, open this URL and look for the name of your contributors: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-desktop/trunk/gnome-about/contributors.h?view=markup If there are some missing contributors, send me a private reply with the names of those contributors. I'll make sure to add them before 2.18.0. It'd be great to have the non-ascii characters in hexa, so for example: Mariano Su\xc3\xa1rez-Alvarez instead of Mariano Suárez-Alvarez. I'll ask for a hard code freeze break to get this in (yes, this is code ;-)). Thanks, Vincent ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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Hi all [shame on lips], I swear I thought that the reply-to was already set to Vincent, I'm humbly sorry for spamming your inbox - and even more so with this apology message. Please ignore me for the rest for the rest of the week as punishment. Ronald On Mar 6, 2007, at 5:00 PM, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: Hi Vincent, I'm not in it. :-). Looking through the past few series and seeing which more-than-once contributors are not in the list, I guess you'd have to add (Including me): Ronald S. Bultje Sebastien Bacher Tim-Philipp Muller - I don't know how to do a u-umlaut Jens Granseuer Wouter Bolsterlee Madhan Raj M. Nirmal Kumar Alan Horkan Thanks, Ronald On Mar 6, 2007, at 4:31 PM, Vincent Untz wrote: Hi, Do you all remember that we list our contributors in About GNOME? The list of GNOME contributors is probably outdated: many people contributed a lot of stuff in recent years and are not there. It's a shame to not thank them, so we have to fix this! It would be really great if all maintainers could take 10 minutes and check that all of their main contributors are listed in there. To do so, open this URL and look for the name of your contributors: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-desktop/trunk/gnome-about/ contributors.h?view=markup If there are some missing contributors, send me a private reply with the names of those contributors. I'll make sure to add them before 2.18.0. It'd be great to have the non-ascii characters in hexa, so for example: Mariano Su\xc3\xa1rez-Alvarez instead of Mariano Suárez-Alvarez. I'll ask for a hard code freeze break to get this in (yes, this is code ;-)). Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- devel-announce-list mailing list devel-announce-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce-list ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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Sure and: Rich Burridge Joanmarie Diggs Lynn Monsanto Thanks! Will Bill Haneman wrote: Hi Vincent: I've never been included in the Gnome contributors' list. I reckon it's about time! Bill Haneman also Carlos Eduardo Rodrigues Di\xf3genes Li Yuan Harry Lu David Bolter Padraig O'Briain and if Will doesn't send these himself: Will Walker Mike Pedersen Thanks Vincent! - Bill Vincent Untz wrote: Hi, Do you all remember that we list our contributors in About GNOME? The list of GNOME contributors is probably outdated: many people contributed a lot of stuff in recent years and are not there. It's a shame to not thank them, so we have to fix this! It would be really great if all maintainers could take 10 minutes and check that all of their main contributors are listed in there. To do so, open this URL and look for the name of your contributors: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-desktop/trunk/gnome-about/contributors.h?view=markup If there are some missing contributors, send me a private reply with the names of those contributors. I'll make sure to add them before 2.18.0. It'd be great to have the non-ascii characters in hexa, so for example: Mariano Su\xc3\xa1rez-Alvarez instead of Mariano Suárez-Alvarez. I'll ask for a hard code freeze break to get this in (yes, this is code ;-)). Thanks, Vincent ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 22:31 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Hi, Do you all remember that we list our contributors in About GNOME? The list of GNOME contributors is probably outdated: many people contributed a lot of stuff in recent years and are not there. It's a shame to not thank them, so we have to fix this! Haha, neat meme you started. Want to get wild? Post it on planet! (please don't) It would be really great if all maintainers could take 10 minutes and check that all of their main contributors are listed in there. To do so, open this URL and look for the name of your contributors: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-desktop/trunk/gnome-about/contributors.h?view=markup If there are some missing contributors, send me a private reply with the names of those contributors. I'll make sure to add them before 2.18.0. It'd be great to have the non-ascii characters in hexa, so for example: Mariano Su\xc3\xa1rez-Alvarez instead of Mariano Suárez-Alvarez. Any reason for hex encoding? That's ugly, and we should handle UTF-8 just fine. I'll ask for a hard code freeze break to get this in (yes, this is code ;-)). And maybe it's time to make it data instead of code? Thanks, Vincent On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 17:01 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: And I'll buy a $BEVERAGE_OF_CHOICE for anyone who makes the dang thing sexy and less slow in 2.19.0. This is 2007; if our about box doesn't optionally utilize GL, surely we've failed. :) I suggest we give MacSlow (CC'ed) till the end of the week to come up with something uber sexy. I'll give it a lame try if he doesn't. Bonus points for making it take less than, ya know, about a million hours to go through the whole list :) Yeah, one-by-one alphabetical order doesn't sound very friendly. /me remembers the old Win95 contributors easter egg... [And a full case of $BEVERAGE_OF_CHOICE to whoever goes through the list of top bugsquad contributors and makes sure they are all in there for 2.18.0. Unsung heroes and all that.] Others not to forget: - Quim Gil - Carl Worth - The new vte uber-hacker, Chris Wilson Luis behdad, who is not in the list ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
Le mardi 06 mars 2007, à 17:31, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit : On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 22:31 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: It'd be great to have the non-ascii characters in hexa, so for example: Mariano Su\xc3\xa1rez-Alvarez instead of Mariano Suárez-Alvarez. Any reason for hex encoding? That's ugly, and we should handle UTF-8 just fine. Because it's a C string, and we're not using UTF-8 in our source code, I believe. Old policy, or something like this. I'll ask for a hard code freeze break to get this in (yes, this is code ;-)). And maybe it's time to make it data instead of code? Bastien suggested this, and wanted to open a bug. It's not too late if you want to open the bug before he does! Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 17:31 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: snip And maybe it's time to make it data instead of code? I had the same comment: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415516 -- Bastien Nocera [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 00:01 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Le mardi 06 mars 2007, à 17:31, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit : On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 22:31 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: It'd be great to have the non-ascii characters in hexa, so for example: Mariano Su\xc3\xa1rez-Alvarez instead of Mariano Suárez-Alvarez. Any reason for hex encoding? That's ugly, and we should handle UTF-8 just fine. Because it's a C string, and we're not using UTF-8 in our source code, I believe. Old policy, or something like this. We do in cairo, and it's a lot of fun :). I'll ask for a hard code freeze break to get this in (yes, this is code ;-)). And maybe it's time to make it data instead of code? Bastien suggested this, and wanted to open a bug. It's not too late if you want to open the bug before he does! I was too late by 3 bug numbers (or two mins): http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415519 at least I dupped it myself, so got a point for closing a bug, if not for opening one :-D. Vincent -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 12:01:28AM +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Le mardi 06 mars 2007, ? 17:31, Behdad Esfahbod a ?crit : On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 22:31 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: It'd be great to have the non-ascii characters in hexa, so for example: Mariano Su\xc3\xa1rez-Alvarez instead of Mariano Su?rez-Alvarez. Any reason for hex encoding? That's ugly, and we should handle UTF-8 just fine. Because it's a C string, and we're not using UTF-8 in our source code, I believe. Old policy, or something like this. It's a good policy. Nothing worse than having someone accidently get the wrong character encoding and stuff up your source code completely. It's easier to keep the source 7-bit clean, we don't type that many names that it is a pain. --d -- Davyd Madeley http://www.davyd.id.au/ 08B0 341A 0B9B 08BB 2118 C060 2EDD BB4F 5191 6CDA ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors
On 3/6/07, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonus points for making it take less than, ya know, about a million hours to go through the whole list :) Yeah, one-by-one alphabetical order doesn't sound very friendly. /me remembers the old Win95 contributors easter egg... An older version of gnome-about had an ability to speed up the list (I think by hitting the spacebar or maybe an arrow key) _and_ was alphabetical. I liked it a lot better that way, personally. The combination of being alphabetical and allowing me to dramatically speed it up meant that I could make it whiz through and get to any specific name I wanted (e.g. mine) rather quickly. The random order it uses the last time I looked meant there was essentially no way to show off to a friend how famous you were. Yeah, I know this is kind of egotistical, but isn't the whole point of showing contributors in gnome-about to give them a chance to brag a little bit? ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
