Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-23 Thread Bill Nottingham
Matthias Clasen (matthias.cla...@gmail.com) said: 2. Similarly, how is 'e)' different than the current user add screen? How are additional users expected to configure this information for their login if they are created in this manner? Additional users can use the control-center to set

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-23 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 08:02 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: - An 'initial-setup' tool. The goal here is to allow setting up a few essential things on a new system before you start to use it for the first time. Would this be the right place for the give me a legible font thingy?

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-23 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Federico Mena Quintero feder...@ximian.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 08:02 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: - An 'initial-setup' tool. The goal here is to allow setting up a few essential things on a new system before you start to use it for the first time.

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-23 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@oracle.com wrote: Most of the discussion does not seem to be about the login screen as the subject line suggests.  I think this is because the original email in this thread lumped together GDM shell-style greeter topics with

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-21 Thread Nicolas Dufresne
Did anybody consider including language selection in the initial setup screen. It a little hard to do that at the moment. Being able to change the system language seems to be missing too, Gnome has to provide something as distro are not support to extend the control panel so much. Nicolas

3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-20 Thread Matthias Clasen
Over the past week, I've been working with Ray on fleshing out the plans for gdm in 3.2. We are aiming for 2 things for 3.2: - A new 'shell-style' greeter. You can see a mockup on the feature page. - An 'initial-setup' tool. The goal here is to allow setting up a few essential things on a new

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-20 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 08:02 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: Over the past week, I've been working with Ray on fleshing out the plans for gdm in 3.2. We are aiming for 2 things for 3.2: - A new 'shell-style' greeter. You can see a mockup on the feature page. Will the UI be something that can

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 20 mai 2011 à 08:02 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : - An 'initial-setup' tool. The goal here is to allow setting up a few essential things on a new system before you start to use it for the first time. Please don’t do this. It would merely duplicate the functionality already in

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-20 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote: Please don’t do this. It would merely duplicate the functionality already in the installer. A system should be immediately usable once the installation is finished. There's plenty of scenarios where this logic doesn't

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 20 mai 2011 à 09:07 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : A system should be immediately usable once the installation is finished. There's plenty of scenarios where this logic doesn't work: - preinstalled or otherwise provisioned systems - generally any situation where the person

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-20 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno ven, 20/05/2011 alle 08.02 -0400, Matthias Clasen ha scritto: - An 'initial-setup' tool. The goal here is to allow setting up a few essential things on a new system before you start to use it for the first time. I strongly suggest to postpone this, if planned to be performed after

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-20 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Le vendredi 20 mai 2011 à 15:12 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit : Le vendredi 20 mai 2011 à 09:07 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : A system should be immediately usable once the installation is finished. There's plenty of scenarios where this logic doesn't work: - preinstalled or

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-20 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 15:19 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote: Il giorno ven, 20/05/2011 alle 08.02 -0400, Matthias Clasen ha scritto: - An 'initial-setup' tool. The goal here is to allow setting up a few essential things on a new system before you start to use it for the first time. I

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-20 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno ven, 20/05/2011 alle 14.29 +0100, Bastien Nocera ha scritto: On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 15:19 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote: I strongly suggest to postpone this, if planned to be performed after installation and before first login to setup the master user (as it seems reading the

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-20 Thread Richard Hughes
On 20 May 2011 14:44, Luca Ferretti lferr...@gnome.org wrote: Now serious, I repeat. We still have to define what GNOME OS will be. So I suggest to use 3.2 timeframe to clean up applications and libraries instead starting to work on downstream stuff. Do you? I thought 3.0 was all about getting

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-20 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Luca Ferretti lferr...@gnome.org wrote: If you missed the point, I'm asking about planned behavior and features for this first time assistant:     A. will it be only for master user or for all users?     B. will it allow some kind of customization by        

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-20 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote: Le vendredi 20 mai 2011 à 08:02 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : - An 'initial-setup' tool. The goal here is to allow setting up a few essential things on a new system before you start to use it for the first time.

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-20 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le vendredi 20 mai 2011 à 11:11 -0400, Colin Walters a écrit : The best argument for having this as part of the OS is for the live CD scenario. You might as well type in your username each time if you have to pick language etc. too. Hi, The liveCD or the installer don't require any output,

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-20 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! B. Not planned, no. This is intended to configure a handful of essential things, not an open-ended list of things you might want to set up if happen to know about them. If twitter-esque web services become supported by 'online accounts', that would make it possible for gwibber to pick up

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-20 Thread David Zeuthen
Hi, On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote: Hi! B. Not planned, no. This is intended to configure a handful of essential things, not an open-ended list of things you might want to set up if happen to know about them. If twitter-esque web services become

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-20 Thread Bill Nottingham
Matthias Clasen (matthias.cla...@gmail.com) said: Let me answer them. A. The design is to run this only for the initial setup, when no users exist yet. The large majority of systems nowadays are single-user, anyway... OK, but that does make me wonder about when this isn't the case. The

Re: 3.2 features: login screen

2011-05-20 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Matthias Clasen (matthias.cla...@gmail.com) said: Initial state: a system with no users a) InitialSetup runs b) Create first user c) Configure first user's settings d) First user has full session e) First user