Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-27 Thread Travis Reitter
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 12:18 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 08:53 -0700, Travis Reitter wrote: On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 15:42 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: snip So, I think I agree a lot with the basic premises here. But when I look at: Basic Architecture

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-27 Thread Ross Burton
On Fri, 2007-07-27 at 08:37 -0700, Travis Reitter wrote: (Was that the idea of Galago? I'm not sure what has replaced it these days. Somebody really needs to do a glossary of the Telepathy ecosystem.) Galago (if I remember correctly) meant to merge evolution contacts with gaim contacts.

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-26 Thread Owen Taylor
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 08:53 -0700, Travis Reitter wrote: On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 15:42 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: snip So, I think I agree a lot with the basic premises here. But when I look at: Basic Architecture == [Desktop People Apps] - [Empathy] -

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-26 Thread Calvin Gaisford
I really like the last ascii diagram here. I think it reflects more of the direction we were discussing at GUADEC. Assuming we take that direction (which I would agree with) I'd like to see a dbus interface into the [[online-desktop-engine]] which would become the (generic data model API).

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-26 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 08:31 -0700, Travis Reitter wrote: If eds-dbus doesn't work with standard EDS, I consider that a bug. The original announcement didn't compile correctly with the standard EDS, but that was promptly fixed. You mean if eds-sync doesn't work with standard EDS...? Yes,

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-26 Thread Travis Reitter
On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 07:08 +0100, Ross Burton wrote: On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 22:27 -0700, Travis Reitter wrote: 4. A daemon to initiate and perform data synchronization and merging. This could be a modified version of eds-sync (though that requires a special version of e-d-s (the dbus port,

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-26 Thread Xavier Claessens
I didn't had time to read the full discussion, here is my vision of what should be done for contact managing in the GNOME desktop (freedesktop ?). We need a daemon that get information about contacts from Mission Control accounts and store it locally somewhere. Actually that job is done by

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-26 Thread Travis Reitter
On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 15:42 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: snip So, I think I agree a lot with the basic premises here. But when I look at: Basic Architecture == [Desktop People Apps] - [Empathy] - [e-d-s] - [Online desktop server] That just doesn't make a lot

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-26 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 12:18 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: Say that we want to allow dragging two people together to assert that your friend owtaylor on Myspace is the same as [EMAIL PROTECTED] How do you represent that via VCard? Do you create a VCard with a standard email attribute, and an

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-25 Thread Ross Burton
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 22:27 -0700, Travis Reitter wrote: 4. A daemon to initiate and perform data synchronization and merging. This could be a modified version of eds-sync (though that requires a special version of e-d-s (the dbus port, I believe)). Maybe Conduit could be use for anything

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-25 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Travis Reitter 2. We need an Online Desktop preferences applet (mainly to choose your Online Dekstop provider (if any)). Would be great if this were part of the 'About Me' dialogue. - Jeff -- OSCON 2007: Portland OR, USAhttp://conferences.oreillynet.com/oscon/

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-25 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 06:51 -0700, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Travis Reitter 2. We need an Online Desktop preferences applet (mainly to choose your Online Dekstop provider (if any)). Would be great if this were part of the 'About Me' dialogue. It would be cool if about me didn't suck.

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-25 Thread John Stowers
Travis, some good ideas. I thought I would weigh in on this issue from the point of view of Conduit. Basic Architecture == [Desktop People Apps] - [Empathy] - [e-d-s] - [Online desktop server] snip 4. A daemon to initiate and perform data synchronization and merging. This

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-25 Thread Travis Reitter
On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 06:51 -0700, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Travis Reitter 2. We need an Online Desktop preferences applet (mainly to choose your Online Dekstop provider (if any)). Would be great if this were part of the 'About Me' dialogue. - Jeff Ah, right! It's definitely a

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-25 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Owen Taylor Exactly ... we shouldn't think about synchronizing your machine's addressbook with some other addressbook, we should think of it more like IMAP where you may have some ability to do things offline, but it's clear that you are editing the online copy. One way I've found

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-25 Thread Havoc Pennington
Hi, Adding a couple of more thoughts, When displaying the list of people, there should potentially be some groupings by origin (Facebook, AIM, local network, etc.) or a logo by each one showing origin or a filter-by-origin drop-down or something of that nature. We don't have to make all

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-25 Thread Joe Shaw
Hi, On 7/25/07, Owen Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. What the Empathy block here is doing here is merging together data from various sources; not just e-d-s, but also Telepathy, Pidgin, or whatever. I see the online-desktop-server as another of

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-25 Thread Owen Taylor
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 22:27 -0700, Travis Reitter wrote: At GUADEC, a number of the people-centric software people (from Soylent, Banter, Empathy, Telepathy, Mugshot/Online Desktop) got together to discuss some issues around integrating our work. Here are some ideas for the short-term

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-25 Thread John Stowers
If eds-dbus doesn't work with standard EDS, I consider that a bug. The original announcement didn't compile correctly with the standard EDS, but that was promptly fixed. Either way, is the e-d-s dbus port going to replace the existing bonobo e-d-s? John

Re: Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-25 Thread Ross Burton
On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 11:36 -0700, John Stowers wrote: If eds-dbus doesn't work with standard EDS, I consider that a bug. The original announcement didn't compile correctly with the standard EDS, but that was promptly fixed. Either way, is the e-d-s dbus port going to replace the

Online Desktop/People apps (short-term)

2007-07-24 Thread Travis Reitter
At GUADEC, a number of the people-centric software people (from Soylent, Banter, Empathy, Telepathy, Mugshot/Online Desktop) got together to discuss some issues around integrating our work. Here are some ideas for the short-term implementation, to get us rolling on integration. Many of these