Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-27 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 19/03/11 12:25, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: On 19/03/11 11:19, Olav Vitters wrote: As a pre-warning, could you please ask the ftp-masters again to support .xz? They have included this item in their agenda for the meeting. I've told them that GNOME plans to switch to .xz soon and that

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-27 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 05:12:22PM +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: So I'd say .xz support will be in place in ~ 1 or 2 months. Definitely for GNOME 3.2, but hopefully way sooner. Great! Then I'll first everything from .tar.gz + .tar.bz2 to .tar.bz2 + .tar.xz as transition. Then before

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-22 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 01:42:01PM +, Ghee Teo wrote: On 21/03/2011 12:29, Olav Vitters wrote: I'd like to understand what the impact would be. So, whom would it affect (what kind of groups: users/developers/OS team/something else)? There are 2 aspect of these I can see at least:

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-22 Thread Ghee Teo
On 22/03/2011 13:05, Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 01:42:01PM +, Ghee Teo wrote: On 21/03/2011 12:29, Olav Vitters wrote: I'd like to understand what the impact would be. So, whom would it affect (what kind of groups: users/developers/OS team/something else)? There are 2

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-21 Thread Ghee Teo
I hope this does not imply or infer that all the source tarball for GNOME will be uploaded in .xz format only. Solaris is *not* supporting .xz by default yet. This means, anyone who want to compile source code modules will have difficulties. Just want to clarify. -Ghee On 19/03/2011 11:19,

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-21 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:55:05AM +, Ghee Teo wrote: I hope this does not imply or infer that all the source tarball for GNOME will be uploaded in .xz format only. Solaris is *not* supporting .xz by default yet. This means, anyone who want to compile source code modules will have

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-21 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 01:29:56PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:55:05AM +, Ghee Teo wrote: I hope this does not imply or infer that all the source tarball for GNOME will be uploaded in .xz format only. Solaris is *not* supporting .xz by default yet. This means,

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-21 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Hello Olav, What is the reasoning behind this move? Just storage savings? It seems to me that it will actually be easier to request our sponsors (RedHat/Novell/Oracle...) for more storage than pushing everyone into the pain of having to deal with such unfamiliar format. We are releasing .gz and

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-21 Thread Germán Póo-Caamaño
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:21, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: Hello Olav, What is the reasoning behind this move? Just storage savings? It seems to me that it will actually be easier to request our sponsors (RedHat/Novell/Oracle...) for more storage than pushing everyone into the pain

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-21 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 01:21:38PM +, Alberto Ruiz wrote: What is the reasoning behind this move? Just storage savings? It seems For xz: 1) Much faster download 2) Much smaller 3) Doesn't use a lot of memory when decompressing (9MB) 4) Uncompress speed seems similar to bz2 (as in: don't

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-21 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 02:52:17PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: But mostly: Forgot my blue sky idea that I've almost completed: I'm working on automatically giving maintainers access to upload things to ftp.gnome.org. Then we'd be able to give way more people the ability to upload tarballs

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-21 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Sorry Olav, I thought this is actually going to happen soon and the decision was set in stone. 2011/3/21 Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 01:21:38PM +, Alberto Ruiz wrote: to me that it will actually be easier to request our sponsors (RedHat/Novell/Oracle...) for more

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-21 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 02:10:58PM +, Alberto Ruiz wrote: 2011/3/21 Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl: Could you expand on the pain? Basically most distros won't ship it by default, at least not for now. Solaris/RHEL/SLED/CentOS are probably the worst cases here. But also custom

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-21 Thread Ghee Teo
On 21/03/2011 12:29, Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:55:05AM +, Ghee Teo wrote: I hope this does not imply or infer that all the source tarball for GNOME will be uploaded in .xz format only. Solaris is *not* supporting .xz by default yet. This means, anyone who want to

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-21 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 21/03/11 15:29, Olav Vitters wrote: ATM I really like to switch to the new script (ftpadmin) before 3.0 as it correctly handles NEWS files and .0 releases.. \o/ That always annoyed me. Thanks! Emilio ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-21 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Ghee Teo ghee@oracle.com wrote: On 21/03/2011 12:29, Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:55:05AM +, Ghee Teo wrote: I hope this does not imply or infer that all the source tarball for GNOME will be uploaded in .xz format only. Solaris is

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-21 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Ghee Teo ghee@oracle.com wrote: On 21/03/2011 17:02, Sandy Armstrong wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Ghee Teoghee@oracle.com  wrote: On 21/03/2011 12:29, Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:55:05AM +, Ghee Teo wrote: I hope

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-21 Thread Ghee Teo
On 21/03/2011 17:02, Sandy Armstrong wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Ghee Teoghee@oracle.com wrote: On 21/03/2011 12:29, Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:55:05AM +, Ghee Teo wrote: I hope this does not imply or infer that all the source tarball for GNOME will be

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-21 Thread Ghee Teo
On 21/03/2011 17:27, Sandy Armstrong wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Ghee Teoghee@oracle.com wrote: On 21/03/2011 17:02, Sandy Armstrong wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Ghee Teoghee@oracle.comwrote: On 21/03/2011 12:29, Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-20 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 08:45:31AM -0700, Baybal Ni wrote: What is xz? It is a different way to compress files. See http://tukaani.org/xz/ You have various method to compress a file. Commonly used ones are .gz and .bz2. Then there was .lzma shortly, but it has been superseded by .xz. The

Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-19 Thread Olav Vitters
Note: breaking thread on purpose. On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 04:31:23PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 03:15:34PM +, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: From a Debian POV, we can't upload .xz upstream tarballs yet (dpkg supports it, but the ftp-masters don't allow it),

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-19 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 19/03/11 11:19, Olav Vitters wrote: Note: breaking thread on purpose. On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 04:31:23PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 03:15:34PM +, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: From a Debian POV, we can't upload .xz upstream tarballs yet (dpkg supports it,

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-19 Thread Michael Biebl
2011/3/19 Emilio Pozuelo Monfort po...@debian.org: On 19/03/11 11:19, Olav Vitters wrote: Note: breaking thread on purpose. On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 04:31:23PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 03:15:34PM +, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: From a Debian POV, we can't upload

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-19 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 03:55:18PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: 2011/3/19 Emilio Pozuelo Monfort po...@debian.org: On 19/03/11 11:19, Olav Vitters wrote: As a pre-warning, could you please ask the ftp-masters again to support .xz? They have included this item in their agenda for the