Re: gnome power manager inhibit

2007-10-20 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno ven, 19/10/2007 alle 23.15 +0100, Richard Hughes ha scritto: On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 18:52 +0100, Odysseus Flappington wrote: It appears to me that how Gnome Power Manager determines whether the computer idle before it suspends/hibernates could be better designed. I understand that

Re: gnome power manager inhibit

2007-10-20 Thread Scott J. Harmon
Alex Jones wrote: I'd say there are three situations, not just auto and manual: 1. when it decides for itself if it wants to suspend (idle); 2. when the user asks it to suspend (clicks suspend); and 3. when the user forces it to suspend (closes lid). If any applications are

Re: gnome power manager inhibit

2007-10-20 Thread Odysseus Flappington
On 19/10/2007, Richard Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is pretty basic laptop stuff, and since equivalent bugs haven't been reported on Windows and that generally I've never come across these problems, I would conclude that they've found a more effective way of implementing this.

Re: gnome power manager inhibit

2007-10-20 Thread David Zeuthen
On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 23:15 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: Well, we've discussed quite a few ways of doing this in the past - kpowersave just checks a blacklist of processes which is completely wrong way to do it in my opinion. Having a nice interface lets us do clever things. (Yeah, at least

gnome power manager inhibit

2007-10-19 Thread Odysseus Flappington
Hi everyone, It appears to me that how Gnome Power Manager determines whether the computer idle before it suspends/hibernates could be better designed. I understand that it is each application's responsibility to inhibit the computer from sleeping while in use (

Re: gnome power manager inhibit

2007-10-19 Thread Richard Hughes
On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 18:52 +0100, Odysseus Flappington wrote: It appears to me that how Gnome Power Manager determines whether the computer idle before it suspends/hibernates could be better designed. I understand that it is each application's responsibility to inhibit the computer from

Re: gnome power manager inhibit

2007-10-19 Thread Scott J. Harmon
Benjamin Gramlich wrote: Isn't this discussion a bit moot since gnome has a suspend inhibit applet that you can turn on in situations when you want to sit back and watch a movie or download a .iso image? No. But I do have to say, I would rather the laptop suspend and kill my download or file

Re: gnome power manager inhibit

2007-10-19 Thread Benjamin Gramlich
Isn't this discussion a bit moot since gnome has a suspend inhibit applet that you can turn on in situations when you want to sit back and watch a movie or download a .iso image? On 10/19/07, Richard Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 18:52 +0100, Odysseus Flappington

Re: gnome power manager inhibit

2007-10-19 Thread Philip Withnall
That's a bit of a hacky fix though; we should try and get as many applications as possible to support inhibition automatically. Philip On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 19:48 -0500, Benjamin Gramlich wrote: Isn't this discussion a bit moot since gnome has a suspend inhibit applet that you can turn on in

Re: gnome power manager inhibit

2007-10-19 Thread Ross Burton
On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 18:52 +0100, Odysseus Flappington wrote: - Firefox when playing Flash. Just because some web page I've got open has a Flash based advert does not mean that my computer should not suspend. The others are all good, but this is too general. Ross -- Ross Burton

Re: gnome power manager inhibit

2007-10-19 Thread Havoc Pennington
Hi, Odysseus Flappington wrote: I'm beginning to believe there must be a better way of doing this. I imagine if people had thought of one they would have done it ;-) This is pretty basic laptop stuff, and since equivalent bugs haven't been reported on Windows and that generally I've never