Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-18 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Rodrigo Moya My list in the GEP includes all this and more ;) yeah, I think your list + some evaluation team scrutiny could work much better than looking for complete consensus on the mailing list. That evaluation team *is* the release team. But the release team doesn't make

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-17 Thread John Williams
On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 13:33 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: For completeness, I should also note that there are two other big problems involved which I don't know how to solve on a short timescale (e.g. before 2.16): - Havoc's recent points about identifying our target audience is important in

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-17 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 01:12 -0800, Alex Graveley wrote: *cough* tomboy *cough* Tomboy is a great example. Its a great piece of software that does new exciting things. If tomboy would be excluded from the desktop for some technicality I would be very sad.

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 09:38 +0100, Alexander Larsson wrote: On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 01:41 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote: So, what if we just set a list of things a module has to conform with to get accepted and base our decisions on that? For instance, we could have: * uses at least basic

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-17 Thread Dan Winship
Murray Cumming wrote: On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 13:33 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: - David's recent point in this thread about the desktop release set not being so important also rings true to me. It's a binary in-or-out yet there are lots of really rocking Gnome programs that are well

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-17 Thread Murray Cumming
On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 09:11 -0500, Dan Winship wrote: Murray Cumming wrote: On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 13:33 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: - David's recent point in this thread about the desktop release set not being so important also rings true to me. It's a binary in-or-out yet there are

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-17 Thread Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
Hi, I think our thinking historically has been that distro's who really care about GNOME don't really 'care' that much about our list of stuff in the desktop release as they have a pretty good idea themselves what they want/don't want. Distro's which don't care much about GNOME on the other hand

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-16 Thread Murray Cumming
On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 13:33 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: - David's recent point in this thread about the desktop release set not being so important also rings true to me. It's a binary in-or-out yet there are lots of really rocking Gnome programs that are well integrated but aren't in the

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-16 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 13:33 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: On 2/16/06, Danilo Šegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Vincent, Today at 8:24, Vincent Untz wrote: We'll be trying something new for new modules in 2.16. I think most of us agree that it didn't turn out well for this cycle.

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-16 Thread Luis Villa
On 2/16/06, Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 13:33 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: On 2/16/06, Danilo Šegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Vincent, Today at 8:24, Vincent Untz wrote: We'll be trying something new for new modules in 2.16. I think most of

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-16 Thread Bryan Clark
What I'm seeing seems like lack of guidance along with the other points you mentioned. For instance this release team reason: + gnome-power-manager: people like it, but some mor work is needed, and more integration should be done. It won't go in for 2.14, but we'd like to see a

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-16 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 20:06 -0500, Bryan Clark wrote: Some proposed action items (from me): * HIG has no real notification area guidelines To me this doesn't mean g-p-m is doing anything wrong, just that we design / usability people are behind the game and need to get