Re: requesting official list of modules and versions for GNOME 2.14

2006-02-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 09 février 2006 à 15:50 +0800, Davyd Madeley a écrit : > Thanks, Vincent. Can we also get a list of versions the release-team > intends to choose for gtk-engines, gnome-icon-theme, GLib and Pango? AFAIK: + gnome-icon-theme: we'll discuss about it in the meeting + glib + pango: the o

New panel logout/shutdown alert - a mini ui review

2006-02-09 Thread Luca Ferretti
I'm updating the Italian translation for gnome-panel. I found the following issues: 1. Comments for new logout menu item and new logout applet still speak about shutdown - bug # 330499 2. Logout and Shutdown actions don't respect the /apps/gnome-session/option/logout_prompt GConf key - bug# 33050

Re: New panel logout/shutdown alert - a mini ui review

2006-02-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Luca, Thanks for working on this. On Thu, February 9, 2006 09:53, Luca Ferretti wrote: > I'm updating the Italian translation for gnome-panel. I found the > following issues: > > 1. Comments for new logout menu item and new logout applet still speak > about shutdown - bug # 330499 I plan to f

Re: control-center 2.13.90 released

2006-02-09 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 16:10 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On 2/6/06, Elijah Newren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Was there a reason to do that instead of using Glynn's patch from bug > > 327335 to revert this specific change? > > 1) I was not aware of that bug and patch > 2) We also wa

Re: requesting official list of modules and versions for GNOME 2.14

2006-02-09 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 09:10:55AM +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > + gtk-engines: I quickly looked at the archives and couldn't find a > mail related to it (ie there's no mail with engines in the > subject ;-)). Is the issue a possible slowdown caused by the use of > cairo? We have two

Re: New panel logout/shutdown alert - a mini ui review

2006-02-09 Thread Alexey Rusakov
Vincent Untz wrote: 3. Invert Logout and Shutdown entries in Desktop menu - no bug entry - reason: well, honestly just a personal feeling, but I preferr the Logout menu entry at the end of desktop menu. Every time I've to logout, I move the mouse to Shutdown, I see it's not Logout, so I've to mov

Re: New panel logout/shutdown alert - a mini ui review

2006-02-09 Thread Paolo Borelli
Hi Vincent, I was a bit esitant to bring this up, given all the recent fuss with icon themes, wallpapers applet etc. I am also sorry to not have raised these concerns in a more timely manner. Anyway, since it has come up I wanted to express some of my doubts about the new logout dialog.

Re: requesting official list of modules and versions for GNOME 2.14

2006-02-09 Thread Vincent Untz
On Thu, February 9, 2006 10:41, Davyd Madeley wrote: > On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 09:10:55AM +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > >> + gtk-engines: I quickly looked at the archives and couldn't find a >> mail related to it (ie there's no mail with engines in the >> subject ;-)). Is the issue a possi

Re: New panel logout/shutdown alert - a mini ui review

2006-02-09 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno gio, 09/02/2006 alle 10.19 +0100, Vincent Untz ha scritto: > > 2. Logout and Shutdown actions don't respect > > the /apps/gnome-session/option/logout_prompt GConf key - bug# 330500 > > Hrm... I'm not sure about this one. > The original goal of this key was, I believe, to enable the user

Re: NLD10 and GNOME

2006-02-09 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 11:52 +, Alan Cox wrote: > Nor does the committee argument stand up. It is perfectly possible to > post in advance that "we are going to do this, we've created a temporary > alternate repository for the work and if you want to join in or help > merge stuff back as it

Re: esd patch for control center

2006-02-09 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 18:47 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > Hi > > One of the things GNOME is doing on log in is to execute a couple times > (one in gnome-session and one in gnome-settings-daemon) esound daemon. > > Attached patch makes the settings daemon not execute it if already > running. Since

Re: UI Review

2006-02-09 Thread Anna Marie Dirks
Hmm. I'm sure it would be worthwhile, Calum. We're (hopefully) perpetually attracting new developers and community members who may not be automatically familiar with the HIG. Doing a review is a good idea not just for the apps, but for their benefit too. Anna El mar, 07-02-2006 a las 15

My gnome does not work properly

2006-02-09 Thread Kpetermeni Siakor
Dear Developer, I installed Ubuntu linux version 5.1 but when ever I log in, I receive the message: siakor was not fould. Please add this to root/home/etc/host. Gnome will not work properly. After this, it loads to my desktop but most options under administrator do not work. How can I correct thi

Re: Alt Mouse Modifier (from digest)

2006-02-09 Thread Alexey Rusakov
David Neary wrote: Alexey Rusakov wrote: Elijah Newren wrote: Just a me-too on how unfortunate the Alt modifier thing for window moving is. I know of at least one major piece of third-party software that uses Alt as a modifier for certain mouse operations, and it's been doing so since

Re: Sorry State [Was: NLD10 and GNOME]

2006-02-09 Thread Anna Marie Dirks
Good morning, everyone. Goodness sakes. This thread has so much anger in it! I can't help but think that there is a misunderstanding or two that needs to be cleared up. The photos that Jono found are from a website that the team I manage uses to house our daydreams, our ideas, our rants --

Re: G_MODULE_BIND_LOCAL broke nautilus-python extension

2006-02-09 Thread Jan Schmidt
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 16:22 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: > So it seems that the desktop wide decision to load all modules with > G_MODULE_BIND_LOCAL, for performance reasons, may break python > extensions. So far, nautilus-python was affected by this. Do people > have any suggestions

Re: New panel logout/shutdown alert - a mini ui review

2006-02-09 Thread Alexey Rusakov
Paolo Borelli wrote: - the timeout of death :). I see from your response that this is supposed as a way to quit with just one click, but is this really useful? Does anyone really waits 60 seconds staring at it? Would people in a lab just let the contdown run and go away from the pc? What if a

Re: New panel logout/shutdown alert - a mini ui review

2006-02-09 Thread Matthias Clasen
While we are discussing these dialogs, here are some other small issues we have noticed: - Changing the numbers in the countdown string should not affect the dialog size - "Reboot" should be "Restart" for consistency with gdm - The button order in the Shutdown dialog is a bit odd. Why is Cance

Re: New panel logout/shutdown alert - a mini ui review

2006-02-09 Thread Trent Lloyd
On Thursday 09 February 2006 17:19, Vincent Untz wrote: > Hi Luca, > > Thanks for working on this. > > On Thu, February 9, 2006 09:53, Luca Ferretti wrote: > > I'm updating the Italian translation for gnome-panel. I found the > > following issues: > > > > 1. Comments for new logout menu item and ne

Re: New panel logout/shutdown alert - a mini ui review

2006-02-09 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno gio, 09/02/2006 alle 07.46 -0500, Matthias Clasen ha scritto: > While we are discussing these dialogs, here are some other > small issues we have noticed: > > - Changing the numbers in the countdown string should not > affect the dialog size ?? > - The button order in the Shutdown di

Re: New panel logout/shutdown alert - a mini ui review

2006-02-09 Thread Matthias Clasen
On 2/9/06, Luca Ferretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Il giorno gio, 09/02/2006 alle 07.46 -0500, Matthias Clasen ha scritto: > > While we are discussing these dialogs, here are some other > > small issues we have noticed: > > > > - Changing the numbers in the countdown string should not > > affe

Re: New panel logout/shutdown alert - a mini ui review

2006-02-09 Thread Bill Haneman
Trent said: > > > > > > Lock Screen > > > Log Out user > > > Shut Down > > > > > > to > > > > > > - > > > Lock Screen > > > Shut Down > > > Log Out user > > > > The idea was to have the items in a progressive order. I

Re: My gnome does not work properly

2006-02-09 Thread Roberto Piscitello
Kpetermeni Siakor yahoo.com> writes: > > Dear Developer, I installed Ubuntu linux version 5.1 but when ever I log in, I receive the message: siakor was not fould. Please add this to root/home/etc/host. Gnome will not work properly. After this, it loads to my desktop but most options under admin

Re: My gnome does not work properly

2006-02-09 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi, On 2/7/06, Kpetermeni Siakor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Developer, > I installed Ubuntu linux version 5.1 but when ever I log in, I receive the > message: siakor was not fould. Please add this to root/home/etc/host. Gnome > will not work properly. > After this, it loads to my desktop bu

Re: Less antiquated format for animations (was: Plan to fix icons [was: Re: breakage caused by removed icons from gnome-icon-theme])

2006-02-09 Thread Stanislav Brabec
Tommi Komulainen writes: > On 2/7/06, Matthias Clasen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > b) I believe we should pick a file format that did not already look > > antiquated when it was first employed in wanda the fish 5 years ago. > > Even gif animations look modern and featureful compared to this. > >

Re: My gnome does not work properly

2006-02-09 Thread Alan Horkan
On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Kpetermeni Siakor wrote: > Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 07:41:29 -0800 (PST) > From: Kpetermeni Siakor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > Subject: My gnome does not work properly > > Dear Developer, > I installed Ubuntu linux version 5.1 but when ever I log i

File chooser button [was Re: Gnome-utils branched to gnome-2-14]

2006-02-09 Thread Alan Horkan
I'm going to answer this out of order which may make it difficult to follow, apologies in advance. On Wed, 8 Feb 2006, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:36:22 -0600 > From: Federico Mena Quintero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: desktop-dev

Re: requesting official list of modules and versions for GNOME 2.14

2006-02-09 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 10:58 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > On Thu, February 9, 2006 10:41, Davyd Madeley wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 09:10:55AM +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > >> + gtk-engines: I quickly looked at the archives and couldn't find a > >> mail related to it (ie there's no m

Re: requesting official list of modules and versions for GNOME 2.14

2006-02-09 Thread Matthias Clasen
On 2/9/06, Shaun McCance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 10:58 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > > On Thu, February 9, 2006 10:41, Davyd Madeley wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 09:10:55AM +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > > > >> + gtk-engines: I quickly looked at the archives an

Re: control-center 2.13.90 released

2006-02-09 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 22:25 +1300, Glynn Foster wrote: > Hey, > > On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 16:10 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On 2/6/06, Elijah Newren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Was there a reason to do that instead of using Glynn's patch from bug > > > 327335 to revert this specific

Re: File chooser button [was Re: Gnome-utils branched to gnome-2-14]

2006-02-09 Thread Calum Benson
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 17:10 +, Alan Horkan wrote: > I believe it was designed by Sun Microsystems so perhaps they can > elaborate on their design process and goals. Hmm, I don't have any recollection of that at all. If there's any ChangeLog evidence to back up your belief, though, let me kno

Re: requesting official list of modules and versions for GNOME 2.14

2006-02-09 Thread Jan de Groot
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 12:55 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > Until somebody sits down and does measurements to show > that use of cairo in theme engines is responsible for measurable > slowdowns, this is just guesswork. I haven't tried gtk-engines 2.7.x for a while, but after switching to cairo en

Re: File chooser button [was Re: Gnome-utils branched to gnome-2-14]

2006-02-09 Thread Owen Taylor
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 18:34 +, Calum Benson wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 17:10 +, Alan Horkan wrote: > > > I believe it was designed by Sun Microsystems so perhaps they can > > elaborate on their design process and goals. > > Hmm, I don't have any recollection of that at all. If there'

Re: Gnome-utils branched to gnome-2-14

2006-02-09 Thread Owen Taylor
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 17:06 +, Alan Horkan wrote: > On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Wouter Bolsterlee wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 20:56:56 +0100 > > From: Wouter Bolsterlee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > > Subject: Re: Gnome-utils branched to gnome-2-14 > > > > På Mon, F

Re: New panel logout/shutdown alert - a mini ui review

2006-02-09 Thread Claudio Saavedra
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 07:46 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > - "Reboot" should be "Restart" for consistency with gdm There is already a bug open about it (#327580). Claudio -- Claudio Saavedra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list des

Re: New panel logout/shutdown alert - a mini ui review

2006-02-09 Thread Brian Cameron
Luca/Others: I wanted to make some comments about the implementation in gnome-session for logout/halt/reboot. Looking at the gdm-logout-action.c code in gnome-session it looks like gnome-session calls GDM with SET_LOGOUT_ACTION instead of SET_SAFE_LOGOUT_ACTION. This means that GDM will halt

Talk to the Clearlooks maintainers

2006-02-09 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Well, the new Clearlooks entails both the Cairo-enabled Clearlooks engine > in gtk-engines and the Clearlooks theme data in gnome-themes. Both the > engine and the theme data have changed. The theme data is probably > setting a few things that are new to the engine, but most notably, it's > u

Re: Talk to the Clearlooks maintainers

2006-02-09 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 10:49:57AM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > Well, the new Clearlooks entails both the Cairo-enabled Clearlooks engine > > in gtk-engines and the Clearlooks theme data in gnome-themes. Both the > > engine and the theme data have changed. The theme data is probably > > set

Re: Talk to the Clearlooks maintainers

2006-02-09 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 10:49 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > Well, the new Clearlooks entails both the Cairo-enabled Clearlooks engine > > in gtk-engines and the Clearlooks theme data in gnome-themes. Both the > > engine and the theme data have changed. The theme data is probably > > setting a

Re: Talk to the Clearlooks maintainers

2006-02-09 Thread Jeff Waugh
> The theme we have now is a fundamentally different beast from the > Clearlooks we selected as the new default last release cycle. There's no > question that it's become more lickably delicious, but it isn't even close > to the same theme. Using it is basically tantamount to changing the > def

Re: File chooser button [was Re: Gnome-utils branched to gnome-2-14]

2006-02-09 Thread Alan Horkan
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, Calum Benson wrote: > Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:34:53 + > From: Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: File chooser button [was Re: Gnome-utils branched to > gnome-2-14

Re: requesting official list of modules and versions for GNOME 2.14

2006-02-09 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 15:50:35 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 08:27:43AM +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > > So, we (the release team) seriously sucked on this. We're having a > > meeting on Friday to take some decisions. [..] > Thanks, Vincent. Can we also get a list of versions the

Re: New panel logout/shutdown alert - a mini ui review

2006-02-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le jeudi 09 février 2006 à 10:54 +0100, Paolo Borelli a écrit : > Now my gripes: > > - the dialog is IMHO a bit ugly: it's very small and most importantly it > doesn't have the HIG suggested 4:3 width/height ratio (especially the > shutdown one) Nod. I can fill it with some text :-) Or may

Re: New panel logout/shutdown alert - a mini ui review

2006-02-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 09 février 2006 à 07:46 -0500, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > While we are discussing these dialogs, here are some other > small issues we have noticed: > > - Changing the numbers in the countdown string should not > affect the dialog size Will be fixed if the countdown is removed ;-) I'l

Re: New panel logout/shutdown alert - a mini ui review

2006-02-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 09 février 2006 à 13:45 +, Bill Haneman a écrit : > > Paolo Borelli wrote: > > > - the timeout of death :). I see from your response that this is > > > supposed as a way to quit with just one click, but is this really > > > useful? Does anyone really waits 60 seconds staring at it?

Re: New panel logout/shutdown alert - a mini ui review

2006-02-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 09 février 2006 à 15:02 -0800, Brian Cameron a écrit : > Luca/Others: > > I wanted to make some comments about the implementation in gnome-session > for logout/halt/reboot. Looking at the gdm-logout-action.c code in > gnome-session it looks like gnome-session calls GDM with > SET_LOGOUT