Re: Thoughs about communication

2017-02-03 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Heya, Should we go ahead then? Sri, let's go with #gnome and #engagement for now? If the bridge works out well, we can move more channels to it soon. I believe only thing needed is Matthew to set it up in matrix.org and gimpe.net opers set it up the bridge right? Best regards, Carlos

Re: Thoughs about communication

2017-02-03 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
A clarification: By "moving more channels to it" I mean "implement the bridge in more channels" if we see it is successful and we like the outcome. I didn't mean to retire IRC channels at all. Best regards, Carlos Soriano Original Message Subject: Re: Thoughs about

Re: Thoughs about communication

2017-01-27 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hey Sri, I want to see this happen too and I encouraged Alberto to start this thread, he proposed the same as you, using #newcomers channel as one of the precursors, since is one of the first channels for new people. However, I think #newcomers is not the best place to experiment, things are

Re: Sick day today

2017-01-25 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
omg sorry all Original Message On 25 Jan 2017, 11:56, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Wed, 2017-01-25 at 05:55 -0500, Carlos Soriano Sanchez wrote: > Got down again At least it's a sick note, not a rant like Behdad sent to the wrong list ;)

Re: GNOME goal candidates

2017-02-28 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hey, Good initiative, I agree with the approvals and rejections, except: For installed tests an coverage... I think we should aim to provide some minimum quality, and continuous integration and installed tests is something that really help with this and it's pretty common now for every project.

Re: Github's pull requests and GNOME

2016-11-29 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Thanks Andrea, I will take into account you are referencing the CodeContributionWorkflow page from outside the newcomers guided wiki, since we were planing a new revamp, this might worth to take into account. Best regards, Carlos Soriano Original Message Subject: Github's

Re: Searching mentor for GSoC Proposal on GNOME Disks

2017-03-25 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hello Kai! I'm Carlos Soriano, one of the mentors in GNOME. It's great you came up with this proposal, and you seem to have a decent understanding of the technologies involved, it's great to see you would like to tackle this part of the stack. Everyone will love seeing work on this! Did you

Re: GSoC student introduction

2017-03-25 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hello Armin, I'm Carlos Soriano, one of the mentors in GNOME. This project idea looks like a key project for GNOME and I'm sure all of us are looking forward to see it happen! I read your proposal and the points outlined and goals looks good. I understand the complexity of Mutter + Wayland

Re: GitHub Development Platform for GNOME

2017-04-10 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hello Walter, Yes, using non-free software for something as important as our infraestructure is problematic for most of the GNOME community. GitHub is not a feasible option for the time being. Other alternatives that are free software can be and are being taken into account, and that's the

Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

2017-03-14 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Oh I actually talked with Matthew today about this and opened a new bug: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/issues/390 . In this case this is for disabling the spam filter they have so any non-registered user can talk with matrix users. Also regarding Michael advice of not

GNOME accepted for GSoC

2017-03-07 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hello all, GNOME was again accepted for GSoC! \\o// Thanks to the mentors who've already listed GSoC project ideas! We currently have only around 16 GSoC ideas, it would be excellent to have at least four more mentors with new ideas for this round, as we are used to be one of the biggest

Re: GNOME goal candidates

2017-03-01 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
I think installed test etc it's not going to happen or be maintained if we don't enable coverage with it too. I think that's the actual trick that will keep us up with the initiative. So I would go with both since the start, and together. Best regards, Carlos Soriano Original

Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

2017-03-02 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Excellent news we have matrix bridge, thanks Matthew! I'm missing some rooms though, like #nautilus or #gnome-photos etc. Are they on the bridge and the search is having problems to find them or are they out for some reason? Best regards, Carlos Soriano Original Message

Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

2017-03-02 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
<csori...@protonmail.com> Matthew Hodgson <matt...@matrix.org>, Desktop Development List <desktop-devel-list@gnome.org> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 11:56 PM, Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list <desktop-devel-list@gnome.org> wrote: > I'm missing some rooms though, like #na

Re: Relicensing Nautilus to GPLv3+

2017-07-17 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
This is done now in https://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/commit/?id=365ec7f7ac1cec51dc0248dd05b17cb78252a788 Thanks all for the input! Best, Carlos Soriano > Original Message > Subject: Re: Relicensing Nautilus to GPLv3+ > Local Time: May 28, 2017 3:30 PM > UTC Time: May 28,

Re: For projects switching to Meson *only*

2017-04-27 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hello Emmanuele, Would be fine if the maintainer does the patch for continuous instead of doing the build-API? Carlos Soriano Original Message Subject: For projects switching to Meson *only* Local Time: 27 April 2017 10:45 AM UTC Time: 27 April 2017 08:45 From:

Re: Stackexchange community for GNOME/GTK+

2017-05-10 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Is there some public place that offer something similar as AskFedora to create a community for GNOME? I think one requirement for us is to not host it ourselves, and still be relevant. I guess that's why Sri choose Stackexchange. But I don't know other alternatives. Carlos Soriano

Re: Relicensing Nautilus to GPLv3+

2017-05-17 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
There are few by error. The important cases are lineup-parameters used for uncrustify, and the threatics part from gnome-builder. However, we already spent time on implementing our own thing in the past with git-archive-all (GPLv3+) when meson couldn't handle it, so I would like to prevent this

Re: Proposal to deploy GitLab on gnome.org

2017-05-18 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Heya, Good discussion, nice input from everyone involved! I summarized what we have so far in a new page with community input in https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/DevelopmentInfrastructure/CommunityInput Keep in mind I tried to extract the most important points, to have an effective list of

Re: Proposal to deploy GitLab on gnome.org

2017-05-16 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hello Richard, Glad to hear that. Could you mention what projects relevant for GNOME (either part of GNOME already or not) that you are maintainer of would benefit of a transition to GitLab? In this way we can evaluate the positive impact this initiative would have. Cheers, Carlos Soriano

Re: Proposal to deploy GitLab on gnome.org

2017-05-16 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hello Tristan, Glad to hear you are positive about the change! Regarding your concerns, all of them are currently being work by GitLab. A good example to know whether GitLab can handle big projects it's to look at GitLab itself as we mention in the wiki, here:

Re: Proposal to deploy GitLab on gnome.org

2017-05-17 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
ori...@protonmail.com> desktop-devel-list@gnome.org <desktop-devel-list@gnome.org> On 17 May 2017 at 03:57, Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list <desktop-devel-list@gnome.org> wrote: > Hello Mattias, > > Thanks for sharing your thoughs! > > Your concern is about using f

Re: Proposal to deploy GitLab on gnome.org

2017-05-17 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
So the main problem is autotools rebuilds everything when switching branches, even if the files didn't change? That's sounds very strange, autotools builds based on mtime of the files, and I checked this personally. Are you sure of the reason of this situation? Could it be because the branch is

Re: Proposal to deploy GitLab on gnome.org

2017-05-17 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hey Bastien, Not sure if you read the wiki and the workflow we outlined in there, since we mention how this works. You will realize that's not necessary for you, neither a git-bz alternative since you will use just git: - git-bz apply equals to git checkout remoteBranch - git-bz attach equals

Re: Proposal to deploy GitLab on gnome.org

2017-05-17 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hey Jehan, Knowing that core contributors like you and GIMP maintainers will have access to the repo, are the sporadic contributions still many enough enough for fetching a remote being inconvenient? Is it because it takes considerably more time to fetch a repo than download and applying a

Re: Proposal to deploy GitLab on gnome.org

2017-05-16 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hello Alexandre (I got your name right :P), The team was composed by people with no previous bias, except Alberto who initially approached us towards GitLab, and me liking Phab more. Said that, over the testing period of more than 3 months we evaluated both options as extensively as possible,

Re: Proposal to deploy GitLab on gnome.org

2017-05-16 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hello Mattias, Thanks for sharing your thoughs! Your concern is about using fast forward merge. Yes, we raised this concern as the top most important for us, and as we mention in the wiki we have good news, GitLab team is willing to strongly consider making fast forward merge to CE if GNOME

Re: Proposal to deploy GitLab on gnome.org

2017-05-17 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Ah, I see what you mean now. But then you can rebase yourself in master right? And the build time would be exactly the same no? Best regards, Carlos Soriano Original Message Subject: Re: Proposal to deploy GitLab on gnome.org Local Time: May 17, 2017 2:03 PM UTC Time: May 17,

Re: Proposal to deploy GitLab on gnome.org

2017-05-17 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Wed, 2017-05-17 at 06:36 -0400, Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel- list wrote: > Hey Bastien, > > Not sure if you read the wiki and the workflow we outlined in there, > since we mention how this works. You will realize that's not > necessary for you, neither a git-bz alternative si

Re: Relicensing Nautilus to GPLv3+

2017-05-19 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hey A. Walton, Relicensing from gpl2+ (supposed current nautilus) to lgpl2+ (current gtk+) requires agreement of all copyright holders, and the software license is free software one. Relicensing from gpl3+ requires ecxactly the same process, and both are still free software licenses. Do you

Re: Relicensing Nautilus to GPLv3+

2017-05-18 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
org <desktop-devel-list@gnome.org>, Frederic Crozat <f...@crozat.net> On 18/05/17 18:22, Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list wrote: > Hello, > > After asking some authors of the current code that we have as GPL3+ inside > nautilus, and pondering for a while, I realized the practi

Re: Relicensing Nautilus to GPLv3+

2017-05-18 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hello, After asking some authors of the current code that we have as GPL3+ inside nautilus, and pondering for a while, I realized the practicity of moving away from that code or convince those authors to relicense as GPL2+ is more a burden than the real benefit. The only problem that arises

Re: Relicensing Nautilus to GPLv3+

2017-05-18 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
gt; 017-05-18 18:22 GMT+02:00 Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list <desktop-devel-list@gnome.org>: > The only problem that arises if Nautilus becomes GPL3+ as per yesteday > discussion in IRC at #gnome-hackers is that extensions that are GPL2-only > cannot be used anymore. > Ke

Re: Relicensing Nautilus to GPLv3+

2017-05-28 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Ah thanks Luis, I'll take that into account Sent from ProtonMail mobile Original Message On 28 May 2017, 13:01, Luis Menina wrote: Hi, Le 25/05/2017 à 14:48, Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list a écrit : > Thanks Michael, looks interesting and seems there are enough reas

Re: Proposal to deploy GitLab on gnome.org

2017-05-28 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hey Felipe, What is that you are no fan of in the merge request workflow? Would a command line application thay works similarly to git bz fox these issues? Regarding useless forks, why is that a problem? (Definitely something to take care on our infra though if it grows too big) Cheers

Re: Relicensing Nautilus to GPLv3+

2017-05-25 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Aha! I still get different opinions from different people on that. But that makes sense to me. Probably makes sense to relicense the files too at some point, but that would be a later decision. Do you know any advantage of relicensing the files themselves? Best, Carlos Soriano

Re: Relicensing Nautilus to GPLv3+

2017-05-25 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Thanks Sebastien! For now we won't relicense the files, since that would require copyright holders to agree (iiuc). Instead is the project that will become GPL3+, since the combination of GPL2+ + GPL3+ files results in a project that is GPL3+. Best, Carlos Soriano Original Message

Re: Relicensing Nautilus to GPLv3+

2017-05-25 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
The project, not everyfile. It's more like accepting that Nautilus is gpl3+ now since some files are gpl3+ already. That's what I mean by re licensing. Best, Carlos Soriano Original Message Subject: Re: Relicensing Nautilus to GPLv3+ Local Time: May 25, 2017 12:36 PM UTC Time:

Re: Relicensing Nautilus to GPLv3+

2017-05-25 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Local Time: May 25, 2017 2:07 PM UTC Time: May 25, 2017 12:07 PM From: mike.catanz...@gmail.com To: Carlos Soriano <csori...@protonmail.com> Sébastien Wilmet <swil...@gnome.org>, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org <desktop-devel-list@gnome.org> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 5:10 AM, Carlos So

Re: Relicensing Nautilus to GPLv3+

2017-05-18 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
o Monfort <poch...@gmail.com> release-t...@gnome.org <release-t...@gnome.org>, nautilus-l...@gnome.org <nautilus-l...@gnome.org>, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org <desktop-devel-list@gnome.org>, Frederic Crozat <f...@crozat.net> On Thu, 2017-05-18 at 13:50 -0400, Carlo

Re: Relicensing Nautilus to GPLv3+

2017-05-18 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Ah yes, my bad. For some reason my mind didn't accept the "GPL2-only is compatible with GPL2+". All clear now. Original Message Subject: Re: Relicensing Nautilus to GPLv3+ Local Time: May 19, 2017 12:05 AM UTC Time: May 18, 2017 10:05 PM From: had...@hadess.net To: Carlos

Re: Proposal to deploy GitLab on gnome.org

2017-05-16 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Michael, Ray, That's a nice discussion to have, but a goal on the initiative was to try to match what we have now (with the inherited niceties for those workflow/use cases), with the less disruption possible, while keeping the "nice things we could do" for a later case-by-case evaluation. My

Re: Proposal to deploy GitLab on gnome.org

2017-05-16 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hello Hubert, Glad to hear you are supportive of the idea. Regarding your questions: 1- will URL to cgit be remapped to the gitlab instance? Last time I checked with Andrea and Alberto that was the plan. 2- what are the migration plans for bugzilla: bugzilla URL, bug numbers and the actual

Re: Please run for the board!

2019-05-30 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
And in case you missed it in planet.gnome.org, I made a write up on how the board works nowadays, why you should and why you definitely can run for the board, read it! https://csoriano.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/csoriano-blog/post/2019-05-27-why-you-can-and-should-apply-for-the-board/ On Wed, 29 May

Re: Windows runner for CI now generally available!

2019-12-09 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 10:48, Carlos Soriano wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Good news! Thanks to OpenAtMicrosoft and our staff we have set up a > Windows runner for the GNOME/ group. Right now it's a single runner with > the "windows" tag attached, feel free to use it as you see fit. > > *How to use

Windows runner for CI now generally available!

2019-11-19 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hi everyone, Good news! Thanks to OpenAtMicrosoft and our staff we have set up a Windows runner for the GNOME/ group. Right now it's a single runner with the "windows" tag attached, feel free to use it as you see fit. *How to use it* Here's is an example on how to use a specific runner with a

Re: Matrix IRC bridge considered harmful

2020-02-13 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
Hi folks, We been in contact with Matthew from Matrix for some time already. I lately didn't have much time to invest on this, so we had have some delays on answering. However, it's our expectation that with the set up that we have right now the IRC bridge should perform as its best, as we are

Re: Matrix IRC bridge considered harmful

2020-02-14 Thread Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list
ong massively as a first class native Matrix GTK > client (assuming they want to use it! :) > > So, TL;DR: we've had a solution to much of the Matrix<->IRC problems since > April 2019, we just need to actually use it. > > I'm sorry this has taken so long to sort out - I genuinely hadn