Re: roadmap status update/update request

2005-03-08 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, I think that's a way better number of people participating than MOST commercial companies would ever dream of to make a market research on. They usually do their researches based on a sample of 2-3,000 people. Gnome would have 100 times that, and so I do take it that it would be

Re: xsltwin32config.h and jhbuild

2005-07-06 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Why can't the necessary file be generated by Windows users? because configure doesn't run for people using standard Windows tools. Daniel, can you be a bit more specific ? What exactly does not allow people to run configure under Windows ? Lots of projects build fine under windows

Re: Gnome 2.14 Module Proposal: Deskbar Applet

2005-10-26 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 12:03 +0100, Mike Hearn wrote: On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:26:19 +0200, Raphael Slinckx wrote: I think the point is clear, python eats your memory, live with it. That's not a particularly great answer ... Why not ? It is not different for any other language you could be

Re: Gnome 2.14 Module Proposal: Deskbar Applet

2005-10-26 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, That excludes lots of users, me being the first. I'm sad to here it. Fully understood : you don't care about many of us (users. You don't mind ruining everyone else improvements. You're right, time is not to improvements, please everyone unsuscribe performance-list. You are

Re: Gnome 2.14 Module Proposal: Deskbar Applet

2005-10-26 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, Settle down - you're being too antagonistic about this and it's making the discussion go nowhere. then don't tell me the discussion about VM-based languages is over. Ok, I won't. Also note, I didn't. I started answering this thread with real statistics about memory usage. I

Re: Gnome 2.14 Module Proposal: Deskbar Applet

2005-10-27 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 19:18 +0200, Benoît Dejean wrote: Le mercredi 26 octobre 2005 à 19:04 +0200, Thomas Vander Stichele a écrit : Hi, But are you sure that 10 python applets would each consume 22 MB ? How much of this 22 MB would be shared among python applets ? In my my first email

Re: Making GNOME crash

2005-11-11 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, Oh, this is all fine for _GStreamer_, but bad for _GNOME_, because this sends away potencial GNOME contributors since it's simply too difficult to build it. Sorry to be so blunt, but I think it was selfish of the GStreamer project to have -Werror in the makefiles. Two notes: - -Werror

Re: autotools gives autopain

2005-12-17 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, first of all, I love python. 1. Scons is simply technically superior to GNU Autotools - with a big margin. Saying this does not make it automatically true. Some further explanation required. 2. Scons is simple to learn, Autotools is not. True. However, autotools is already learned

gnome-media branched

2006-01-10 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
gnome-media was branched for 2.12 (I think Ronald did this recently but it looks like no mail was sent out to announce it). All bug fixes for 2.12 releases should go on the gnome-2-12 branch. HEAD will now start merging patches for UI changes and GStreamer 0.10 integration. Thomas Dave/Dina :

string freeze explanation on the wiki

2006-01-10 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Frustrated by my inability to easily find a string freeze explanation, I created http://live.gnome.org/MaintainersCorner_2fStringFreeze based on a mail from Christian Rose during the 2.9 cycle. Feel free to further change the page or suggest places in the wiki to link from to this page. Thomas

Re: gnome-media branched

2006-01-14 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 12:09 +0100, Christian Rose wrote: On 1/10/06, Thomas Vander Stichele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gnome-media was branched for 2.12 (I think Ronald did this recently but it looks like no mail was sent out to announce it). Thanks for the notice. However, it seems

jhbuild and GStreamer

2006-01-14 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hello everyone, just a heads-up - jhbuild can now build both GStreamer 0.8 and 0.10 modules. At this moment, both gnome-media and totem are built against 0.10 by default, so that we can get some feedback from the brave front runners. You can easily override this choice locally if you want: -

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, Of those 80 most are from the 0.8 days. And they illustrate the problem with nobody working on the 0.8 stuff anymore. So, can we hope that some of you (Tim?) Let's not shovel too much dirt on Tim yet :) We're already passing him all of the hot potatoes. Tim's focusing on the 0.10

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, Well, if all other changes that have been done/will be done in 2.13 are only fixes that can go in 2.12, then I guess it's okay. Thomas also proposed to add a patch for GStreamer 0.10 support in CVS and a configure switch that would apply the patch. My proposal was slightly different;

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, Is GNOME 2.10 maintained? If you want to do an analogy, you should ask : is GNOME 2.12 maintained ? ;) No - since GNOME 2.14 is not out yet. The question is - is GNOME maintaining more than one stable branch at any point ? After discussing on irc, it seems not everybody has the

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-22 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, Without any of this, people will just switch back to totem-xine or other, non-GNOME apps like always, or just continue self-confirming that Linux sucks. Very disappointing after my hard work to make GStreamer not totally suck from an end user's point of view. Basically a total year

Re: Design by Community

2006-02-08 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, I know some very wise people have decided, apparently without much discussion with the community, that GNOME would switch to Subversion. But I keep thinking that, although Subversion is much better than CVS, maybe we would benefit more from a distributed version control system, like

Re: requesting official list of modules and versions for GNOME 2.14

2006-02-12 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, - subtitles embedded in movies (.mkv, .ogm, dvds) still don't work - language selection (audio tracks, subtitles) still doesn't work - dvds/vcds still don't work I have the feeling that in your mails a too rosy picture of 0.8 is painted. I don't particularly like looking for and

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-07 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, plugins are not available. The GNOME 2.14 distribution does not itself contain these non-free components. Actually better yet contain or endorse I'd be completely fine with this standpoint. However, not everyone in the GNOME community necessarily agrees with this. I got *a lot*

Re: desktop-devel-list Digest, Vol 23, Issue 9

2006-03-09 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 08:38 -0500, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:50:17 +0100, Thomas Vander Stichele wrote: However, not everyone in the GNOME community necessarily agrees with this. I got *a lot* of requests to add an mp3 recording profile to gnome-media. Historically

Re: intltool 0.35.0

2006-05-18 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 12:59 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 18:32 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 12:23 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: I just released intltool 0.35.0 to the world. It includes a number of bug fixes, as well as the famed LINGUAS support.

Re: gstreamer-0.10.x tarballs on f.g.o: checksums differ from those on freedesktop.org

2006-05-22 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 21:10 +0800, James Henstridge wrote: On 5/18/06, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The checksums for the gstreamer-0.10.x tarballs on ftp.gnome.org differ from those on http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/src/gstreamer/ How can that be? The

Re: Intellectual Property Plugins and GNOME

2006-06-16 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 03:43:49PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 15:26:59 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote: Here at Sun, we have been talking with Fluendo about licensing these plugins. As you can imagine, it is fairly expensive to acquire a license that allows a

Re: Intellectual Property Plugins and GNOME

2006-06-16 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 15:43 -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 15:26:59 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote: Here at Sun, we have been talking with Fluendo about licensing these plugins. As you can imagine, it is fairly expensive to acquire a license that allows a vendor to freely

Re: Mono/GTK#/Tomboy

2006-07-14 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, Further, the objections mentioned all seem to apply equaly to python and mono. Python is allowed for desktop apps already. If nobody can come up with objections to mono that don't apply equally to python, it would seem that mono and python should be on equal footing. I don't think

Re: Mono/GTK#/Tomboy

2006-07-14 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi Miguel, Today the issue of resource usage is brought up as if it were the end of the world, back in the day, Jonathan made the following comment: To me it's not the resource usage of any such language as such on its own. I'm living under the delusion (for the sake of argument) that a

Re: [gst-devel] Why is gstreamer not an external dependency?

2007-05-22 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Definitely a good question to mull over. I don't have a good answer. Maybe someone else does. Well, to me, it makes totally sense to have a multimedia framework in GNOME since many applications are dealing with multimedia. I believe the goal is to move GStreamer to the platform once

Re: [gst-devel] Why is gstreamer not an external dependency?

2007-05-22 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 23:26 +0800, James Henstridge wrote: On 22/05/07, Thomas Vander Stichele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, If you don't break the API in the next series, why would you make a change that requires every application to be updated to take advantage of the new release

Re: Why have a ChangeLog file if you already have commit messages?

2007-09-17 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 00:13 +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote: Hi Talking to Daniel Cheese Siegel we asked ourselves: Why do all GNOME projects have a ChangeLog file? Isn't it redundant when you just save a commit message. Because they communicate at different levels. I have yet to see a project

Re: Pulseaudio

2007-10-17 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Asking for hw mixing in PA is like asking for support for MPEG decoder cards in GST. GStreamer actually has support for dxr3 cards :) My sound cards at home all have hardware mixing; it's in my experience only embedded sound cards (laptops, dell boards, the crap-in-many-ways ICH series...)