Re: online desktop APIs

2007-04-20 Thread Havoc Pennington
Hi, Now we're thinking about a different approach to this that avoids hand-coding of D-Bus APIs every time we want to add a new property or kind of info that the server can host. Wrote up notes at http://developer.mugshot.org/wiki/Extensible_Server_API Havoc

Re: online desktop APIs

2007-04-16 Thread BJörn Lindqvist
On 4/15/07, Havoc Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoever is interested in the project, same as any other open source project. If someone thinks it would be fun to work on then they are welcome, if they don't then they'll work on something else. It doesn't have to be people working on

Re: online desktop APIs

2007-04-16 Thread Havoc Pennington
Hi, BJörn Lindqvist wrote: I don't understand. What is Mugshot then? What is it not? To me, it is not clear what the intended audience is, if there is one. I talked about this in http://log.ometer.com/2007-04.html#3 (scroll down to Target Audience) I even have a not section about people I

Re: online desktop APIs

2007-04-14 Thread BJörn Lindqvist
Mugshot is a couple different things that are relevant here: 1) it's just a server. Several of the apps that comprise Mugshot really are pretty unrelated to one another to various degrees. We can run whatever code on this server we need. There are some services such as account

Re: online desktop APIs

2007-04-13 Thread Owen Taylor
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 19:49 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote: Hi, I blogged a few days ago about the idea of an online desktop. For our initial prototypes, we've taken a pretty ad hoc approach that tends to leak Mugshot specifics in a messy and undocumented way. I brought up the idea of

Re: online desktop APIs

2007-04-13 Thread Rob Taylor
Owen Taylor wrote: On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 19:49 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote: Hi, I blogged a few days ago about the idea of an online desktop. For our initial prototypes, we've taken a pretty ad hoc approach that tends to leak Mugshot specifics in a messy and undocumented way. I brought

Re: online desktop APIs

2007-04-13 Thread Havoc Pennington
Rob Taylor wrote: Agreed, to this end, I've got a dbus-doc project going on fd.o[1], based off Jon McCann's stuff for ConsoleKit. Its still very very young, so comments and input much appreciated. Cool! I also have concerns that this seems very mudflap-oriented.

Re: online desktop APIs

2007-04-13 Thread Andrew Sobala
Being able to replace Mugshot-as-desktop-server is neither here nor there. Sure, from the Freedom perspective we don't want to rely on a particular server [1], but that's not what's going to really affect the desktop experience. What's important from the user experience is not having to rely

Re: online desktop APIs

2007-04-13 Thread Havoc Pennington
Hi, Andrew Sobala wrote: What's important from the user experience is not having to rely on Mugshot-as-social-network. Virtually none of my friends use mugshot - they all use facebook. Definitely - the idea of Mugshot is not to replace Facebook (or the other stuff people use). It doesn't

Re: online desktop APIs

2007-04-11 Thread Colin Walters
I think that the D-BUS daemon approach can make sense, but I'm not sure it is going to be necessary for all kinds of things that might fall under the online desktop umbrella. For example if I wanted to write a little Flickr panel applet, I would probably just pick up a random Python library

Re: online desktop APIs

2007-04-11 Thread Havoc Pennington
Colin Walters wrote: I think that the D-BUS daemon approach can make sense, but I'm not sure it is going to be necessary for all kinds of things that might fall under the online desktop umbrella. For example if I wanted to write a little Flickr panel applet, I would probably just pick up a

Re: online desktop APIs

2007-04-10 Thread Kyle Mitchell
I am glad that your original blog was more than just a passing post and something that you are planning to act upon. I really agree with your thinking on the direction that the gnome desktop should take, or at least a specific Gnome Online Desktop. I have actually already started a page on the