Well said Alan, bookmarked as "the final word" for when the next person
brings up this Fluendo codec thing :-)
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> david wrote:
> > If there is a man eater shark off the coast what do the local officials
> do?
>
> They don't mail here, beca
david wrote:
> If there is a man eater shark off the coast what do the local officials do?
They don't mail here, because that would be pointless. This worldwide list
of people developing and using OpenSolaris desktop software is the wrong place
to deal with the problem - it would be filling the
The very reason I have not purchased the Fluendo codecs is because the full
pack list Microsoft media formats. If it was just codecs for other stuff that
would definitely not send money to Micorsoft, then I might buy them just for
the convenience of it. I have a basic aversion to being a hypoc
"I am no fan of Microsoft myself, but I am curious as to why you choose
to use Microsoft's throw away email account service, hotmail.com, and
then proceeded to write three paragraphs about why they are such a bad
company to a Sun Solaris forum."
I have had a hotmail account since before Microsoft
Stuart,
Section 3.5 of the OpenSolaris Constitution addresses these
situations. I agree. Religious and political expressions have
no place in OpenSolaris technical discussions and David's
post was inappropriate and offensive. That said, normally
communities don't take action on the first offense.
Stuart Kreitman wrote:
> More to the point, we need a way to moderate or ban people who spam this
> forum with far off topic agendas.
The mailman software has that functionality if and when it is needed - it's
up to the list owners to decide when a ban is appropriate.
--
-Alan Coopersmit
More to the point, we need a way to moderate or ban people who spam this
forum with far off topic agendas.
They are a distraction to our agenda.
Stuart Kreitman
On 07/15/09 22:54, david wrote:
> It is a shame about the multi media support in Solaris. I know that Fluendo
> has their shop and y
Hi, anon,
we have totem and codeina bundled with NV or opensolaris.
If you want to playback MP4/MP2 video, you just need to buy codec from
fluendo.com online.
> If we paid for the media player, then we could legally get all the codecs and
> Sun would make a few bucks out of it for their w
Yes in general, that is true...I know Sun holds patents over concepts
implemented in GPL code where this is not an issue. In this case it is the
fact that MPEG LA, MS et al arent so friendly to FOSS
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Brian Cameron wrote:
>
> Che:
>
> Others have covered it pretty
Others have covered it pretty well already but it i not about patenting "the
code" (which is not possible) but being able to adhere to the GPL's enforced
perpetual non-exclusive rights to redistribute. If you took out a patent
license you could not guarantee those freedoms to your customer which wo
Che:
> Others have covered it pretty well already but it i not about patenting
> "the code" (which is not possible) but being able to adhere to the GPL's
> enforced perpetual non-exclusive rights to redistribute. If you took out
> a patent license you could not guarantee those freedoms to your
Anon Y Mous wrote:
>> It becomes more complex than that, if Sun were to take a patent license on
>> such GPL'd (VLC)
>> code and then sell the product the next person would not be able to pass
>> along those GPL
>> "freedoms" which would be in violation of the GPL
>
> You are reading way
From: desktop-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org [mailto:desktop-discuss-
>> bounces at opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Anon Y Mous
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 7:51 PM
>> To: desktop-discuss at opensolaris.org
>> Subject: Re: [desktop-discuss] licensed codecs available
>&g
On Behalf Of Anon Y Mous
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 7:51 PM
> To: desktop-discuss at opensolaris.org
> Subject: Re: [desktop-discuss] licensed codecs available
>
> > It becomes more complex than that, if Sun were to take a patent license
> on such GPL'd (VLC)
> > cod
It becomes more complex than that, if Sun were to take a patent license on
such GPL'd (VLC) code and then sell the product the next person would not be
able to pass along those GPL "freedoms" which would be in violation of the
GPL
Anyway we have Fluendo working on codecs for Gstreamer + the DV
> It becomes more complex than that, if Sun were to take a patent license on
> such GPL'd (VLC)
> code and then sell the product the next person would not be able to pass
> along those GPL
> "freedoms" which would be in violation of the GPL
You are reading way too much into what I'm saying
Anon Y Mous wrote:
> If we paid for the media player, then we could legally get all the codecs and
> Sun would make a few bucks out of it for their work. Sounds fair to me.
>
Isn't that what Fluendo is offering now? They have all the codecs now
and reported they are now porting their DVD play
If we paid for the media player, then we could legally get all the codecs and
Sun would make a few bucks out of it for their work. Sounds fair to me.
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I got an idea to revive this thread.
How about Sun gives away the OpenSolaris operating system for free but sells
people a custom rebuild of VLC media player done by kronox that plays
everything just like Microsoft Windows Media Player does, and of course it
would come with all the licensed co
Most of commercial DVDs are encrypted with CSS.
If you want to play these, you require to install DeCSS library.
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Brian Cameron wrote:
>
> James:
>
>> Why would a user pay $100 USD for a package of codecs anyway? It's just
>> ironic these "free" systems are no better off than the closed ones, sure
>> it's the proprietary mentality that caused it, but Sun knows how to
>> manage both, so get with the times. Fo
James:
> Why would a user pay $100 USD for a package of codecs anyway? It's just
> ironic these "free" systems are no better off than the closed ones, sure
> it's the proprietary mentality that caused it, but Sun knows how to
> manage both, so get with the times. For something so ubiquitous to
Ch? Kristo wrote:
> Whilst it is important that we have legally blessed versions of mainstream
> codecs there are software packages such as VLC and MPlayer that cater to
> those who reside in countries where the relevant patents for the codecs are
> not enforceable.
>
> I wouldn't say that Fluen
Whilst it is important that we have legally blessed versions of mainstream
codecs there are software packages such as VLC and MPlayer that cater to those
who reside in countries where the relevant patents for the codecs are not
enforceable.
I wouldn't say that Fluendo exists to cater to 'Linux
secret squirrel wrote:
> i tried lifewithsolaris vlc repo and had varying luck - 1 dvd of 3 that i
> tried played. not so good
>
> more disappointment came whilst reading:
> http://www.osnews.com/story/8218
> an interview of ceo from fluendo saying dvd player would be out imminently -
> however t
i tried lifewithsolaris vlc repo and had varying luck - 1 dvd of 3 that i tried
played. not so good
more disappointment came whilst reading:
http://www.osnews.com/story/8218
an interview of ceo from fluendo saying dvd player would be out imminently -
however this article was 4 years old and the
It would be a nice addition to those who chose to have a support contract.
Every time this comes up we get the usual response that Solaris/OpenSolaris
does not have the volume to justify the licensing cost. So if that is true
making the purchase of Fluendo codecs as integrated and seamless as po
> can we get a solaris distribution with licensed codecs (dvd, mp3, mp4, bl4,
> bl4, etc) so an end
> user does not need to hack the hell out of os.
> i am prepared to pay for a distribution with these included. if you could
> give it a way free,
> suits me too.
You can buy WMA/WMV/MP3 codec
ok... the first part is solved - looks like i'll be able to blow some money
buying codecs this christmas =)
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=81106&tstart=15
that just leaves sun to negotiate with adobe, autodesk & smileycentral to port
apps.
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hello,
maybe this should be directed at sun microsystems - however it seems a lot of
their employees lurk here, so... here goes.
can we get a solaris distribution with licensed codecs (dvd, mp3, mp4, bl4,
bl4, etc) so an end user does not need to hack the hell out of os.
i am prepared to pay f
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