Hi,
I just tested Vivid Beta2 for zh_TW locale. Here are some inputs:
1. After fresh installation, there is no traditional Chinese input
method installed by default. However, we expect to have fcitx-chewing
installed after the installation process by default.
It is not that intuitive for users
@Cheng-Chia Tseng: fcitx-chewing seems not to be in main yet, which I
suspect might explain it.
According to bug #1356222 fcitx-chewing has been approved for main.
Since it didn't end up in the desktop seed, as initially proposed, a
developer may need to move it to main manually.
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Title:
[FFe] Install Fcitx for
@Ikuya, I didn't see your message at ubuntu-desktop@, can you check?
@Ping-Wu, please help report your problem to Launchpad or fcitx
upstream, thanks!
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Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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Title:
[FFe] Install Fcitx for Chinese users
Status in
I was so stupid I send from an wrong mail address...
I am very sorry for bothering you.
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Title:
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@Aron, I received a awaiting moderator approval mail.
I don't know what to do.
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Title:
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Fcitx is much better than Ibus. This is a good move.
However, fcitx-m17n is not working. IBus-m17n works as expected.
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@Aron, I've finished to translate fcitx-qimpanel and test it in a short time.
fcitx-qimpanel does not suit on Japanese environment, I think.
Because it does not have status panel. Japanese IM like Anthy or/and Mozc have
own IM status, e.g. direct input, Hiragana mode, and so on. And users can not
@Ikuya, thanks for the translations, and good to know your opinion.
About the status bar, I would recommend to consider dropping it as in OS
X (verified default Japanese input method in it just now).
It's a long history that all Pinyin (the most popular way of inputing
Simplified Chinese)
@Aron
I send a mail to ubuntu-desktop@l.u.c.
I understand your opinion. You are correct. Status bar is outdated.
I don't know about OS X, but GNOME Shell shows IM status instead of IM icon.
Please see attached screenshot.
If fcitx-qimpanel implemented the same look, Japanese users will be
All changes have land in vivid, and the daily-live of March 20th
contains all these changes.
@Ikuya, translations of qimpanel are made available on Launchpad
yesterday, and it will be shipped on vivid's language pack update next
week. The indicator menu items and default theme are still
Gunnar, the FFe for this wasn't approved so language-selector shouldn't
have been uploaded. We wanted to verify that the approach is sensible
first.
Seems that it luckily is, so retrospectively granted, but please be
aware in future.
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On 2015-03-19 10:42, Iain Lane wrote:
Gunnar, the FFe for this wasn't approved so language-selector
shouldn't have been uploaded.
Sorry Iain, forgot that.
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The debdiff for setting fcitx as per locale default of zh_*, while
restoring ibus as default for everyone else.
** Patch added: im-config_0.27-1ubuntu8.debdiff
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1430893/+attachment/4349739/+files/im-config_0.27-1ubuntu8.debdiff
The meta package itself is not related to pull in fcitx packages, but as
ibus-pinyin is removed from desktop-recommends (in 1.333), mark as Fix
Released.
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Changes for im-config acked at #ubuntu-desktop.
** Changed in: im-config (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed
** Changed in: im-config (Ubuntu)
Assignee: (unassigned) = Aron Xu (happyaron)
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Title:
[FFe] Install Fcitx for Chinese
Attached is a patch for language-selector (pkg_depends), so that check-
language-support would return fcitx and related packages for all Chinese
locales (zh_*).
** Patch added: language-selector_lp1430893.patch
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/language-selector
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Title:
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Status in im-config
** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed
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Assignee: (unassigned) = Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj)
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What is the current proposed change? I don't think it's to seed fcitx*
onto desktop as the merge proposal attached here is doing. Is it to add
to pkg_depends in language-selector as in bug #1431337?
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We just discussed this on #ubuntu-desktop - I think this is the plan
- Add fcitx friends to 'live' seed (dropping ibus-pinyin others at the
same time), so that it's installed in the live session (it needs to be started
up before the session starts) but not in the target by default.
- Add it
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:02 AM, Nobuto Murata nob...@nobuto-murata.org
wrote:
So if @nobuto can tell that using fcitx as default is desired for
Japanese
users, let's talk with other people on desktop team next week (preferably
on IRC).
Well, fcitx-anthy(LP: #1356222) and fcitx-mozc are
So if @nobuto can tell that using fcitx as default is desired for Japanese
users, let's talk with other people on desktop team next week (preferably
on IRC).
Well, fcitx-anthy(LP: #1356222) and fcitx-mozc are still in universe. No
Japanese engine for fcitx to seed is available yet.
@ikuya, can
@Nobuto: The fact that there is a Japanese remix with fcitx as default
means that some Japanese users will be affected by the proposed 15.04
changes whether we like it or not.
Up to now, you have been able to decide the default IM framework per
distro by having fcitx installed by default or not.
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 1:41 AM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson
1430...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
On 2015-03-12 18:59, Aron Xu wrote:
On 2015-03-12 17:00, Ikuya Awashiro wrote:
Japanese users prefer to use Fcitx, too.
@Ikuya, you might want to talk to people on #ubuntu-desktop
(alternatively
As regards Korean, and considering bug #1412036, I suspect that Korean
users wish some change: Either the bug fixed or switch to fcitx.
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On 2015-03-12 18:59, Aron Xu wrote:
On 2015-03-12 17:00, Ikuya Awashiro wrote:
Japanese users prefer to use Fcitx, too.
@Ikuya, you might want to talk to people on #ubuntu-desktop
(alternatively discuss on ubuntu-desktop@l.u.c) about the preference
of Japanese users, and we can work this
I have a couple of thoughts on the proposed im-config changes.
Shouldn't the new .conf file reside in /etc rather than /usr/share, or
else possible user settings would be overwritten when the im-config
package is updated?
Maybe theoretical, but: If LC_CTYPE is set explicitly, its value is not
Hi Aron!
On 2015-03-13 10:54, Aron Xu wrote:
1. I have proposed that on Debian BTS, but I don't want to make
another conffile before reaching an agreement with Osamu. And it
won't override user settings in any case, those part will only take
effect when the selected IM is auto.
Right, but I
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson
1430...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
Hi Aron!
On 2015-03-13 10:54, Aron Xu wrote:
1. I have proposed that on Debian BTS, but I don't want to make
another conffile before reaching an agreement with Osamu. And it
won't override user
@gunnarhj,
1. I have proposed that on Debian BTS, but I don't want to make another
conffile before reaching an agreement with Osamu. And it won't override
user settings in any case, those part will only take effect when the
selected IM is auto.
2. Yes, should deal with no quotes in locale
On 2015-03-13 11:47, Aron Xu wrote:
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson
1430...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
It's worth mentioning that the first time a user opens Language
Support, it sets the IM framework explicitly by creating
~/.xinputrc based on auto at the time, even if the
Maybe theoretical, but: If LC_CTYPE is set explicitly, its value is
not surrounded by quotes in the locale output.
I actually hit this issue and opened an separate bug as LP: #1431862. If
you guys intend to fix it in a series of this bug, please mark it as a
duplicate.
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projects, but Fcitx is better suited to Chinese users than IBus is, and
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Japanese users prefer to use Fcitx, too.
By the way, please stop to add fcitx-ui-qimpanel or consider to use
language-selector.
fcitx-ui-qimpanel makes Chinese menu by force on Japanese environment.
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@Ikuya, you might want to talk to people on #ubuntu-desktop
(alternatively discuss on ubuntu-desktop@l.u.c) about the preference of
Japanese users, and we can work this out if there's an agreement.
For the menu stuff I'll open another report and get translations set up
as soon as possible for
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.
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im-config in Ubuntu is able to set preferred auto IM (which is
default) by locale, it's implemented as described in Debian bug
780373[1]. Another patch that makes fcitx default for Chinese locales is
prepared in the package, and can be enabled by adding it to
debian/patches/series.
** Description changed:
There are currently two main supported input method frameworks available
for CJK users: IBus (current default) and Fcitx. Both are mature
projects, but Fcitx is better suited to Chinese users than IBus is, and
is already the default in Ubuntu Kylin. IBus is
** Description changed:
There are currently two main supported input method frameworks available
for CJK users: IBus (current default) and Fcitx. Both are mature
projects, but Fcitx is better suited to Chinese users than IBus is, and
is already the default in Ubuntu Kylin. IBus is
** Also affects: im-config (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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** Description changed:
There are currently two main supported input method frameworks available
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projects, but Fcitx is better suited to Chinese users than IBus is, and
is already the default in Ubuntu Kylin. IBus is
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