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On 2009-06-19T20:00:10+00:00 Olivier wrote:

Farsight2 0.0.12 no longer depends on gst-plugins-farsight (which you
can prune from you distro along with farsight1).

But it needs gst-plugins-bad 0.0.12

The same applies to 0.0.9 in Fedora 11 (so please push out an update
there, otherwise Empathy calling is just broken).

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/4

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On 2009-06-19T20:13:57+00:00 Olivier wrote:

Also, did I mention that the rpmfusion gst-p-bad package doesn't work
because the farsight plugins are disabled (becaues they conflict with
the outdated version of gst-p-farsight in F11)

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/5

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On 2009-06-19T23:18:47+00:00 Brian wrote:

(In reply to comment #0)
> Farsight2 0.0.12 no longer depends on gst-plugins-farsight (which you can 
> prune
> from you distro along with farsight1).
> 
> But it needs gst-plugins-bad 0.0.12

If that is a hard dependency on gst-plugins-bad, that means farsight 2
will need to be removed from Fedora and moved to rpmfusion.

It would probably be helpful if the configure.ac was updated to check
for the necessary plugins are available for farsight2 to work correctly.

> The same applies to 0.0.9 in Fedora 11 (so please push out an update there,
> otherwise Empathy calling is just broken).

Ditto here if the gst-plugins-bad is a hard dependency, it will need to
be removed from F11.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/6

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On 2009-06-19T23:26:07+00:00 Brian wrote:

(In reply to comment #2)
> (In reply to comment #0)
> > Farsight2 0.0.12 no longer depends on gst-plugins-farsight (which you can 
> > prune
> > from you distro along with farsight1).
> > 
> > But it needs gst-plugins-bad 0.0.12
> 
> If that is a hard dependency on gst-plugins-bad, that means farsight 2 will
> need to be removed from Fedora and moved to rpmfusion.
> 
> It would probably be helpful if the configure.ac was updated to check for the
> necessary plugins are available for farsight2 to work correctly.

And going a little further, if this is a hard dep on gst-plugins-bad
empathy will also be removed since it depends tp-farsight (which in turn
depends on farsight2).  Not good.

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farsight/+bug/388898/comments/7

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On 2009-06-19T23:40:13+00:00 Bastien wrote:

What plugins are needed specifically?

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/8

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On 2009-06-19T23:58:41+00:00 Olivier wrote:

You need rtpmanager, valve, rtpmux, autoconvert, liveadder, dtmf.

For the upcoming msnwebcam, you also need mimic.. but that one probably
needs to go on rpmfusion.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/9

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On 2009-06-20T22:44:49+00:00 Olivier wrote:

Btw, this will show up as a crash in empathy because of a bug in the
libtelepathy-farsight 0.0.6 GError handling code. So I'm adding the
gnome bug as a dep.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/10

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On 2009-06-20T23:25:12+00:00 Bastien wrote:

Other question, does Empathy support the missing-plugins GStreamer
framework to install missing plugins, should they be needed?

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/11

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On 2009-06-20T23:45:50+00:00 Olivier wrote:

No it doesn't. I plan to support it in farsight2 at some point for the
codecs (lets say to install h.263 or h.264 codecs). But it's not going
to happen for the basic elements. I doubt totem uses missing plugins if
playbin is not installed.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/12

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On 2009-06-21T01:09:25+00:00 Bastien wrote:

(In reply to comment #8)
> No it doesn't. I plan to support it in farsight2 at some point for the codecs
> (lets say to install h.263 or h.264 codecs). But it's not going to happen for
> the basic elements. I doubt totem uses missing plugins if playbin is not
> installed.  

Except that Totem doesn't rely on plugins in gst-plugins-bad, except for
some things like DVD and DVB playback, and it should be able to ask for
those plugins.

I'd expect the same from Empathy, where certainly, the basic
functionality would be there whether or not you had those plugins
available.

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farsight/+bug/388898/comments/13

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On 2009-06-21T01:15:12+00:00 Olivier wrote:

Except that in the case of farsight2, the main functionality is in
rtpmanager which is still in -bad.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/14

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On 2009-06-21T07:14:36+00:00 Christoph wrote:

*** Bug 507109 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/15

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On 2009-06-22T16:09:16+00:00 Fedora wrote:

gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-2.fc11 has been submitted as an update for 
Fedora 11.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-2.fc11

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farsight/+bug/388898/comments/16

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On 2009-06-22T17:27:43+00:00 Fedora wrote:

farsight2-0.0.12-1.fc11,gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-3.fc11 has been 
submitted as an update for Fedora 11.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/farsight2-0.0.12-1.fc11,gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-3.fc11

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/18

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On 2009-06-24T18:18:33+00:00 Brian wrote:

*** Bug 507924 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/20

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On 2009-06-24T19:17:43+00:00 Fedora wrote:

gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-2.fc11 has been pushed to the Fedora 11 testing 
repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug 
report.
 If you want to test the update, you can install it with 
 su -c 'yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update gstreamer-plugins-good'.  You 
can provide feedback for this update here: 
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-6897

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farsight/+bug/388898/comments/21

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On 2009-06-24T19:26:39+00:00 Fedora wrote:

farsight2-0.0.12-1.fc11, gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-3.fc11 has been pushed 
to the Fedora 11 testing repository.  If problems still persist, please make 
note of it in this bug report.
 If you want to test the update, you can install it with 
 su -c 'yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update farsight2 
gstreamer-plugins-good'.  You can provide feedback for this update here: 
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-6921

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/22

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On 2009-06-29T22:16:42+00:00 Brian wrote:

*** Bug 508600 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/32

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On 2009-06-30T13:25:50+00:00 Brian wrote:

*** Bug 507281 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/33

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On 2009-07-11T17:37:33+00:00 Fedora wrote:

farsight2-0.0.12-1.fc11, gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-3.fc11 has been
pushed to the Fedora 11 stable repository.  If problems still persist,
please make note of it in this bug report.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/69

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On 2009-07-14T16:48:21+00:00 Johannes wrote:

I have a question about this bug report. I have installed
empathy-2.26.2-1.fc11, as well as the package versions mentioned above,
i.e.

farsight2-0.0.12-1.fc11
gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-3.fc11

but I have no package called gstreamer-plugins-bad, neither from the yum
repositories (it does not seem to exist there) nor from rpmfusion or any
other source.

Here are my questions:
1) Do they messages above imply that Empathy should work with the package 
versions I have?

2) When I try to make a voice call to somebody running the Google Talk client 
on Windows, the connection is made, but there is no sound on either end. After 
a few seconds, Empathy freezes and needs to be killed by force. Could this 
symptom be explained based on the missing/wrong package discussion above? 
Should I file a separate bug report for this?
[Note: Empathy works very well if the other person calls me.]

3) This page
http://live.gnome.org/Empathy/FAQ#head-0cf7b08b5a6dd38484cb692f72da4475997aa008
says that the gstreamer-plugins-bad package is required on Fedora 11 and I must 
install it by hand. Is this still true?

4) The same page also says I need gstreamer-ffmpeg package. Is that
true? Is that only for Video, or do I need it anyway? What is the
recommended way of getting it?

Thank you very much in advance for any information you may have for me.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/71

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On 2009-07-14T17:04:07+00:00 Olivier wrote:

(In reply to comment #20)
> 1) Do they messages above imply that Empathy should work with the package
> versions I have?

Yes
 
> 2) When I try to make a voice call to somebody running the Google Talk client
> on Windows, the connection is made, but there is no sound on either end. After
> a few seconds, Empathy freezes and needs to be killed by force. Could this
> symptom be explained based on the missing/wrong package discussion above?
> Should I file a separate bug report for this?
> [Note: Empathy works very well if the other person calls me.]

Yes, can you attach gdb to empathy when its frozen and do "thread apply all bt" 
and paste the result in that new bug.. Also please CC me on that bug.
 
> 3) This page
> http://live.gnome.org/Empathy/FAQ#head-0cf7b08b5a6dd38484cb692f72da4475997aa008
> says that the gstreamer-plugins-bad package is required on Fedora 11 and I 
> must
> install it by hand. Is this still true?

No, page updated.

> 4) The same page also says I need gstreamer-ffmpeg package. Is that true? Is
> that only for Video, or do I need it anyway? What is the recommended way of
> getting it?

You only need gst-ffmpeg if you want to make video calls with clients
using non-free codecs, like the Nokia N8x0 tablets.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/72

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On 2009-07-15T12:15:19+00:00 Johannes wrote:

Thank you for all the information, this is very helpful. I have filed
bug #511854 for the freeze problem and copied you.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/80

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On 2009-07-21T21:55:24+00:00 Fedora wrote:

gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-4.fc11 has been submitted as an update for 
Fedora 11.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-4.fc11

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/81

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On 2009-07-27T21:36:14+00:00 Fedora wrote:

gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-4.fc11 has been pushed to the Fedora 11
stable repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in
this bug report.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-
farsight/+bug/388898/comments/82


** Changed in: farsight2 (Fedora)
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Title:
  [MIR] empathy dependencies

Status in GStreamer:
  Invalid
Status in farsight2 package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in geoclue package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in gssdp package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in gst-plugins-bad0.10 package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
Status in gst-plugins-good0.10 package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in gstreamer0.10 package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in gupnp package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in gupnp-igd package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in libnice package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in papyon package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in telepathy-butterfly package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in telepathy-farsight package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in telepathy-mission-control-5 package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in farsight2 source package in Karmic:
  Fix Released
Status in geoclue source package in Karmic:
  Invalid
Status in gssdp source package in Karmic:
  Fix Released
Status in gst-plugins-bad0.10 source package in Karmic:
  Won't Fix
Status in gst-plugins-good0.10 source package in Karmic:
  Fix Released
Status in gstreamer0.10 source package in Karmic:
  Invalid
Status in gupnp source package in Karmic:
  Fix Released
Status in gupnp-igd source package in Karmic:
  Fix Released
Status in libnice source package in Karmic:
  Fix Released
Status in papyon source package in Karmic:
  Fix Released
Status in telepathy-butterfly source package in Karmic:
  Fix Released
Status in telepathy-farsight source package in Karmic:
  Fix Released
Status in telepathy-mission-control-5 source package in Karmic:
  Fix Released
Status in farsight2 package in Fedora:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  empathy (in main now) needs telepathy-farsight and
  libgstfarsight0.10-0 from farsight2.

  I promoted them to main now to unbreak CD builds, but they need a
  proper MIRs.

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