[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1577137] Re: sane service masked and cannot be unmasked

2016-05-25 Thread Hanky
After doing some research I believe this is not a bug, but a misunderstanding. With systemd in use in 16.04 saned is started only "on demand", when a program calls for it. The solution from the manpage I described above is actually realised with the sane-utils package, the files are part of that

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1577137] Re: saned.service masked and cannot be unmasked

2016-05-28 Thread Hanky
I checked the whole procedure on a fresh 16.04 install. To start saned.socket first I needed to run `sudo systemctl start saned.socket` However, in /usr/share/doc/sane-utils/README.Debian I found the solution: To use socket.saned from startup, you have to run `sudo systemctl enable

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1577137] Re: sane service masked and cannot be unmasked

2016-05-26 Thread Hanky
I don't need the files in /etc/systemd/system, the default ones work after I removed the "new" ones: Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/saned.socket; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) . Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/saned@.service; indirect; vendor preset: enabled) I don't recall using

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1577137] Re: sane service masked and cannot be unmasked

2016-05-26 Thread Hanky
There actually was an update for systemd (as jurgen already posted), so probably there was a "fix" includes, who knows... I can confirm that my setup is back to stock config, since I even reinstalled sane-utils to make sure. I don't have to explicitly start saned.socket, it works after every

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1577137] Re: saned.service masked and cannot be unmasked

2016-06-02 Thread Hanky
With systemd used in 16.04 (xenial is 16.04, not 16.10, that will be released in october...) saned is not meant to be started manually. saned.socket is listening for incoming requests. saned is started when a program like XSane or scanimage are started and request a start of saned, too. There are

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1577137] Re: sane service masked and cannot be unmasked

2016-05-26 Thread Hanky
I don't know if kubuntu ships systemd. The command is `systemctl status saned.socket`, sorry about that typo in the post above... If you just used the scanner plugged into an usb socket of your machine, and not the net-backend, there was no need to configure sane manually... We are talking about

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1577137] Re: saned.service masked and cannot be unmasked

2016-05-26 Thread Hanky
** Summary changed: - sane service masked and cannot be unmasked + saned.service masked and cannot be unmasked -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to sane-backends in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1577137 Title:

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1577137] Re: sane service masked and cannot be unmasked

2016-05-20 Thread Hanky
I have the same problem, but at least found a workaround. The man-page for saned (http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man8/saned.8.html) shows a solution using systemd. Two config-files are needed in /etc/systemd/system, saned.socket and saned@.service. With those files saned seem to

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1577137] Re: sane service masked and cannot be unmasked

2016-05-20 Thread Hanky
** Attachment added: "saned.socket" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/1577137/+attachment/4666733/+files/saned.socket -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to sane-backends in Ubuntu.

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1577137] Re: sane service masked and cannot be unmasked

2016-05-21 Thread Hanky
@ jurgen: Perhaps you should have a look at https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/SANE- Scanserver_im_Netzwerk/, judging from your email address you might be able to read german. Much about saned is documented there, I added my solution just the other day. -- You received this bug notification because

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1577137] Re: sane service masked and cannot be unmasked

2016-05-23 Thread Hanky
Another Workaround: Don't use systemd for saned. I removed /lib/systemd/system/saned.service /lib/systemd/system/saned.socket /lib/systemd/system/saned@.service, as well as the "new" files I added in /etc/systemd/system/saned.socket /etc/systemd/system/saned@.service, configured saned as

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1577137] Re: saned.service masked and cannot be unmasked

2016-07-25 Thread Hanky
Hi! I guess that is a Simple Scan problem - afaik Simple Scan is not able to use network scanners; at least I can't use network scanners with it, and can't recall that it was possible with earlier versions. Have you tried xsane? If scanimage -L finds the network scanner, xsane should work too.

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1577137] Re: saned.service masked and cannot be unmasked

2016-07-25 Thread Hanky
Hi! I tried to start simple scan with #SANE_NET_HOSTS=XXX.XXX.XXX.XX simple-scan and after some time it actually started, using the network scanner on XXX.XXX.XXX.XX, using a saned process. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed