I believe one lurking problem would be
Scanners/BatchScanners/BatchWriters (and maybe other things reading and
writing data) wouldn't notice the table name swap.
Accumulo presents the "human readable" name for users, but internally
references things by "table id" (see `tables -l` in the
Agreed.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Christopher wrote:
> I think the license issues are relatively small compared to the bugfixes,
> especially since we're really trying to close out 1.5.x development. So,
> given the options, I'd prefer to pass RC1, and make the
Github user keith-turner commented on a diff in the pull request:
https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/46#discussion_r39187156
--- Diff:
core/src/main/java/org/apache/accumulo/core/sample/impl/SamplerConfigurationImpl.java
---
@@ -0,0 +1,181 @@
+/*
+ * Licensed to the
Thanks again for taking the time to inspect things so thoroughly, Sean.
Others who have already voted, I'd ask for your opinion on whether we
should sink this release (instead of me blindly going by majority rule).
Personally, I'm presently of the opinion that, given the severity of the
I think the license issues are relatively small compared to the bugfixes,
especially since we're really trying to close out 1.5.x development. So,
given the options, I'd prefer to pass RC1, and make the license fixes in
1.6.x and later, as applicable.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 12:28 PM Josh Elser
Github user joshelser commented on a diff in the pull request:
https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/46#discussion_r39188675
--- Diff:
core/src/main/java/org/apache/accumulo/core/sample/impl/SamplerConfigurationImpl.java
---
@@ -0,0 +1,181 @@
+/*
+ * Licensed to the
-1 (nonbinding)
I agree, license issues are important and it sounds like the ASF policy
doesn't leave a lot of room for interpretation
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:49 PM, John Vines wrote:
> -1
>
> I'm with Sean on this one. Ignoring now known licensing issues because we
>
Uh, my understanding is that a binary jar by definition is not a
foundation sponsored release (it's binary). Where's the docs/history on
declaring a binary jar as an official release?
The omission of sizzle.js's in LICENSE and copying Thrift's NOTICE into
our NOTICE for the _official source_
-1
I'm with Sean on this one. Ignoring now known licensing issues because we
hadn't handled them in the past is not a valid excuse.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:27 PM Sean Busbey wrote:
> As members of the PMC, we're required to verify all releases we approve of
> meet ASF
I'm not suggesting ignoring the issues. I was suggesting prioritizing them
after careful consideration, like we would any other problem.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:49 PM John Vines wrote:
> -1
>
> I'm with Sean on this one. Ignoring now known licensing issues because we
>
Michael,
I'd take some time to catch up on some mailing lists like
general@incubator before passing judgement like that. It's rather hasty.
Michael Ridley wrote:
-1 (nonbinding)
I agree, license issues are important and it sounds like the ASF policy
doesn't leave a lot of room for
Not releasing is a viable option, but we can't encourage users to use an
unreleased version of our code. That's not an appropriate substitute for
releasing.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 4:19 PM wrote:
>
> If the critical issues are fixed in 1.5.x, and someone needs them, can't
Sean Busbey wrote:
We can't tie the ability to vote -1 on a release to volunteering to fix the
issue that causes a -1. Presuming a release is valued by the community, the
work will get done.
At the same time, it is crappy for Josh to be expected to fix everything,
especially if he doesn't
RC1 has failed due to licensing concerns.
Josh Elser wrote:
Also, a heads-up since I had one question about this already: you
(hopefully) will notice that this was signed using a different key than
previously for me. This is expected.
I built this release on a virtual server (under my virtual
I'm just looking for a way to resolve this given that we have a bunch of -1
votes and no volunteers to fix the issue. Your work is not lost if there is no
release. In fact, based on what I read regarding release verification in the
responses, the issue raised is the only issue that is keeping
Sean Busbey wrote:
> So let's deal with the matter of the vote at hand first. After that we can
>> deal with fixing things, hopefully with Josh abstaining. (Josh I'd
>> recommend un-assigning yourself from the issue if you'd prefer someone
>> else
>> take it up.)
>>
>>
> I'll likely make
I _think_ we put ourselves in hot-water too if that becomes a norm, but
I understand the point. I just saw that as a assumption a user could do.
Specifically, the user who asked for this release, James, had asked for
a release which is why I was confused at your comment.
dlmar...@comcast.net
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Josh Elser wrote:
>
>
> Sean Busbey wrote:
>
>>
>>
> So let's deal with the matter of the vote at hand first. After that we can
>> deal with fixing things, hopefully with Josh abstaining. (Josh I'd
>> recommend un-assigning yourself from the
On Sep 10, 2015 2:07 PM, "Christopher" wrote:
>
>
> However, I don't know where the "willful copyright infringement" comes
> from. Omission of the LICENSE/NOTICE files is not necessarily an
infringing
> activity. They are acknowledgments/disclaimers of the legal status of
-1
(Hi everyone! Long time no email, hope everyone is well. I'm tasked with
another project these days, but folks pointed this vote out to me.)
The issues Sean brought up in ACCUMULO-3988 do seem significant enough,
unfortunately, that a release should not be knowingly made with them.
Especially
Josh, the link Sean provided does address the issue of including
LICENSE/NOTICE files in the jars, and other associated artifacts. It also
makes it a point to call out that this expectation does not supersede the
definition of an ASF release as being source. That was a refresher I needed
as well.
-1 (non-binding)
Fix now and it'll be fixed here and in 1.6.x.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:46 AM, Sean Busbey wrote:
> -1
>
> * signatures check out
> * checksums match
> * licensing errors noted in ACCUMULO-3988
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Josh Elser
The larger concern I have is that expecting it to be fixed prior to 1.5.4
might mean loss of willingness to create an RC2 for 1.5.4 and release it at
all. Recall, the 1.5 branch was only revived at all to fix some critical
issues and move on. It's still a viable alternative to abandon 1.5.x and
We're responsible for all artifacts we distribute, both source releases and
generated binary artifacts.
It's also required that any binary bits we distribute are generated from
the approved source release. So licensing problems with them are problems
with the source release.
We could abstain
-1.
Having correct licences is more important than even having code that
compiles (at release time).
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Sean Busbey wrote:
> On Sep 10, 2015 2:07 PM, "Christopher" wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > However, I don't know where the
I agree with Chris on this one. I don't see the pre-existing
licensing/copyright notification issue as a blocker to a bugfix release.
Definitely something we should fix as soon as we can, though.
Sorry I can't give a +1 to the release -- I haven't done a thorough enough
review to officially vote.
If the critical issues are fixed in 1.5.x, and someone needs them, can't they
check out the source and build it themselves? Is that a viable option?
- Original Message -
From: "Christopher"
To: dev@accumulo.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:44:20
Christopher wrote:
The larger concern I have is that expecting it to be fixed prior to 1.5.4
might mean loss of willingness to create an RC2 for 1.5.4 and release it at
all. Recall, the 1.5 branch was only revived at all to fix some critical
issues and move on. It's still a viable alternative to
Well.. yeah. It is open source. I don't think you needed someone to tell
you that though.
There are lots of issues in telling people "just build the code
yourself", probably the biggest being a rather negative experience for
the user. For example, I'd be frustrated if I wanted to use MySQL
I'd feel wrong voting on this after being out of the loop for so long, but I do
think licensing issues are pretty serious. Like Bill said, hopefully it isn't
too difficult to fix this.
Sean H
On September 10, 2015 12:38:04 PM PDT, Bill Havanki wrote:
>-1
>
>(Hi everyone!
We can't tie the ability to vote -1 on a release to volunteering to fix the
issue that causes a -1. Presuming a release is valued by the community, the
work will get done.
At the same time, it is crappy for Josh to be expected to fix everything,
especially if he doesn't want to fill the role of
-1
* signatures check out
* checksums match
* licensing errors noted in ACCUMULO-3988
On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Josh Elser wrote:
> Accumulo Developers,
>
> Please consider the following candidate for Accumulo 1.5.4.
>
> Git Commit:
>
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