On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> xmlns:foo="antlib:http://example.org/2005/yes#I_can_use_a_catalog_resolver";
>
> this scaers me, as people will assume that we are doing a
> download...
Of the descriptor. Why not? OK, they might expect we download the
lib itsel
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would assume that tools like websphere or the IDE are happily
> sticking stuff in on the classpath, and that anything more we can do
> for diagnostics helps
Sounds good.
Stefan
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Matt Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :) Jose Alberto, it seems that you and I have each
> contradicted ourselves during this discussion.
Me too.
> On issue (1) above, regarding collisions,
I think Steve's argument about IDEs putting stuff into the CLASSPATH
is an import
> From: Matt Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> --- Jose Alberto Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > > From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Jose Alberto Fernandez
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > 1) How about collisions? Well, ho
Matt Benson wrote:
:) Jose Alberto, it seems that you and I have each
contradicted ourselves during this discussion. On
issue (1) above, regarding collisions, your approach
is to assume the user knows exactly what he/she is
doing: e.g. the name of every task provided with every
third-party dis
--- Jose Alberto Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Jose Alberto Fernandez
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > 1) How about collisions? Well, how about
> collisions between classes
> > > in the classpath?
> >
Stefan Bodewig wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I hadnt thought about autoloading; I am happy with explicit loading
of stuff into their own namespaces, but want to make it easier for
projects to get access to my definitions (or even importable
libraries)
> From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Jose Alberto Fernandez
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > 1) How about collisions? Well, how about collisions between classes
> > in the classpath?
>
> Putting antlibs into namespaces was supposed to resolve those
> collis
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Jose Alberto Fernandez
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1) How about collisions? Well, how about collisions between classes
> in the classpath?
Putting antlibs into namespaces was supposed to resolve those
collisions, just like namesspaces in C++.
> How about loading a task that
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I hadnt thought about autoloading; I am happy with explicit loading
> of stuff into their own namespaces, but want to make it easier for
> projects to get access to my definitions (or even importable
> libraries)
How do you like thi
simple, and all integrated.
Comments,
Jose Alberto
> -Original Message-
> From: Dominique Devienne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 September 2005 22:57
> To: Ant Developers List
> Subject: Re: Antlib autoloading (was Re: cvs commit:
> ant/src/testcases/org/apache/
Jeffrey E Care wrote:
I don't normally speak up on the developer list, but I thought this
discussion could benefit from the experience of a *very large* product
that uses Ant to build.
We use Ant + our own extensions (Mantis) to build WebSphere Application
Server (and a good number of the sta
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Dominique Devienne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/9/05, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > So, any ideas how this could be acomplished?
>> Load all resources from META-INF/antlib.xml at startup and process
>> them, I'd say.
>
> But doesn't that go against Ant's t
I don't normally speak up on the developer list, but I thought this
discussion could benefit from the experience of a *very large* product
that uses Ant to build.
We use Ant + our own extensions (Mantis) to build WebSphere Application
Server (and a good number of the stack products as well). Th
On 9/9/05, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So, any ideas how this could be acomplished?
> Load all resources from META-INF/antlib.xml at startup and process
> them, I'd say.
But doesn't that go against Ant's tradition to not have auto-magic
things, but instead spell things out explic
--- Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Matt Benson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> Load all resources from META-INF/antlib.xml at
> startup and process
> >> them, I'd say.
> >
> > Sounds cool, but what do you do about e.g.
> collisions
> > among tasknames from 3r
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Matt Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Load all resources from META-INF/antlib.xml at startup and process
>> them, I'd say.
>
> Sounds cool, but what do you do about e.g. collisions
> among tasknames from 3rd-party distributions?
It was Jose Alberto who wanted them in the
--- Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Jose Alberto Fernandez
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Now, for backward compatibility and for
> convinience in general, one
> > would like to be able to put in the -lib
> directories a bunch of
> > antlib jars and that all
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